Writers Guild strike 2023

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Brian Earl Spilner
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In reply to aTmAg • 12:20p, 7/27/23
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They will continue to live in ignorance and think they are superior to everybody else.


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In reply to Brian Earl Spilner • 1:14p, 7/27/23
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Brian Earl Spilner said:
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They will continue to live in ignorance and think they are superior to everybody else.


You figure out the difference between wage and cost of living yet?
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10:40p, 7/27/23
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Emmys have been postponed until January




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In reply to nai06 • 10:53p, 7/27/23
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Better that than the crap we got during the pandemic.
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11:33p, 7/27/23
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In reply to TCTTS • 7:04a, 7/28/23
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They could send me a fridge and I still wouldn't watch that. Looks terrible.
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10:40a, 7/28/23
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I can't remember if this one was mentioned, but the whole talk of not releasing movies because the actors and actresses won't be able to do their normal interview circuits and press talks has one recent example against it's validity. Ryan Gosling pretty much single handedly neutered some of the box office potential for First Man a handful of years back with his pre-release commentary. There was a huge discussion on it on here.
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In reply to TCTTS • 10:46a, 7/28/23
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On the flip side, if people will only watch a show if they get free stuff, then maybe the writers shouldn't get more money...
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In reply to [removed post] • 11:22a, 7/28/23
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It's not the same people. The studios send all kinds of insane swag to critics, bloggers, professional fanboys, etc in attempt to woo and sway them, spending millions in the process. They don't send swag to WGA writers. And he's saying since the critics, bloggers, etc have to watch the content regardless, it's a giant waste of money.
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11:23a, 7/28/23
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If they dispersed the money they spent on that stuff to the writers, then the writers would get what 10 cents each?

This reminds me the idiots on reddit who think dispersing the wealth of billionaires would cure poverty. Even if you could convert all their wealth into cash (which is impossible), that would give each American a one time payment of a few thousand dollars, and then everybody would begin to starve.
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In reply to [removed post] • 11:32a, 7/28/23
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People have always complained how much of a waste it all is.
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In reply to aTmAg • 11:34a, 7/28/23
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aTmAg said:
If they dispersed the money they spent on that stuff to the writers, then the writers would get what 10 cents each?

This reminds me the idiots on reddit who think dispersing the wealth of billionaires would cure poverty. Even if you could convert all their wealth into cash (which is impossible), that would give each American a one time payment of a few thousand dollars, and then everybody would begin to starve.


Literally no one thought/said this. Rather, it's just one of many cost cutting measures the studios could take.

But at least you got to call someone an idiot for the 400th time.
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In reply to TCTTS • 11:36a, 7/28/23
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TCTTS said:
aTmAg said:
If they dispersed the money they spent on that stuff to the writers, then the writers would get what 10 cents each?

This reminds me the idiots on reddit who think dispersing the wealth of billionaires would cure poverty. Even if you could convert all their wealth into cash (which is impossible), that would give each American a one time payment of a few thousand dollars, and then everybody would begin to starve.


Literally no one thought/said this. Rather, it's just one of many cost cutting measures the studios could take.

But at least you got to call someone an idiot for the 400th time.
Except the guy tweeting that. He thought it. And said it.

And idiots deserve to have their idiocy called out. If they don't want to be called out, then stop dispersing idiocy.
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In reply to aTmAg • 11:39a, 7/28/23
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No where in that tweet did the guy say or imply any of the crap your spewing.
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In reply to TCTTS • 11:43a, 7/28/23
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Sure he did.
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12:03p, 7/28/23
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aTm playbook:

1. Take someone's post, completely disregard any context or nuance, to frame up an irrelevant premise. (Or often creates one from thin air.)
2. Post a response to said irrelevant premise.
3. Get called out or responded to.
4. Call person an idiot for not agreeing with his premise.
5. Continue to pivot his argument as needed, and insult people who disagree.
6. Most importantly, never apologize, and continue to double down when he is clearly shown to have completely twisted or misinterpreted what someone has said. (See: Sound of Freedom thread)

Repeat ad infinitum.
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In reply to Brian Earl Spilner • 12:05p, 7/28/23
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Ooooh.. you are going to get a lot of stars from the sheep on that one. Congratulations.

BTW, did you figure out the different between wage and cost of living yet? Or are you still struggling on that?
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In reply to aTmAg • 12:09p, 7/28/23
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Sorry you're still stuck on step 2 and can't continue your playbook. I can see it's killing you.

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In reply to Brian Earl Spilner • 1:32p, 7/28/23
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I'm not the one filled with rage here. The entirety of F13 is. Which I find amusing.

You guys can't handle the truth.
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1:44p, 7/28/23
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This thread was very interesting and is now completely derailed.
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3:26p, 7/28/23
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Should I assume there has been no movement in either direction regarding the strikes? Optimism, progress, etc.?

The last few pages of this thread has nothing but a ridiculous pillow fight so I have just skimmed through them.

Did I miss anything important, since I admittedly quickly scanned through the posts since about page 30?
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In reply to Capstone • 3:36p, 7/28/23
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Zero movement and there likely won't be any until after Labor Day. Both the WGA and SAG have said they're ready to get back to the negotiating table, but the AMPTP is refusing. I'm afraid this whole mess won't be over until October at the earliest, but who knows. It sounds like Newsom/the state government is going to get involved in "the fall" if this hasn't been settled by then, so maybe when outside parties start laying on the pressure come September or so all this crap finally starts to get worked out one way or another.
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4:06p, 7/28/23
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Nearly Sony's entire 2023 slate moving to 2024 due to the strikes…

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5:23p, 7/28/23
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Will this get us back on track?

Should you wish to support the WGA and SAG-AFTRA, here's a legit place to buy a snazzy shirt!

(Union Made in the USA of course)


EDIT: Removed the tweet because it had extra salty language.

Here's the direct link to the tshirt site

https://wgastrikeshirts.com/
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5:25p, 7/28/23
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Oh damn, forget the shirts

here's a link to an auction of some pretty sweet movie and Tv related stuff with the proceeds going towards the entertainment community fund

https://wgaragesale.ggo.bid/bidding/package-browse
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In reply to nai06 • 5:32p, 7/28/23
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Is this seriously what this dude does for a living now? Snake oil crystal salesman guy?
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6:52p, 7/28/23
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7:03p, 7/28/23
What's more likely to occur? AMPTP coming to terms with SAG and WGA, or a breakup of AMPTP with individual deals between studios and unions?
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In reply to Grimey • 7:04p, 7/28/23
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I'm thinking the latter at this point.
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In reply to TCTTS • 3:54a, 7/29/23
TCTTS said:
I'm thinking the latter at this point.


Do the writers and actors have enough money stashed away to outlast the studios? It seems like the studios can still make decent money from streaming their old content that they can last a good while.
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In reply to AustinAg2K • 9:20a, 7/29/23
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AustinAg2K said:
TCTTS said:
I'm thinking the latter at this point.


Do the writers and actors have enough money stashed away to outlast the studios? It seems like the studios can still make decent money from streaming their old content that they can last a good while.


Hard to say. I mean they typically know in pretty far out that a strike is possible so they can start to save. Most of the writers and actors I know can't afford to not have another job. So they are pretty used to working the gig economy. Then there's the strike funds. From what I've read they are pretty sizeable this time and that doesn't include other funds either.
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In reply to TCTTS • 9:40a, 7/29/23
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TCTTS said:
Zero movement and there likely won't be any until after Labor Day. Both the WGA and SAG have said they're ready to get back to the negotiating table, but the AMPTP is refusing. I'm afraid this whole mess won't be over until October at the earliest, but who knows. It sounds like Newsom/the state government is going to get involved in "the fall" if this hasn't been settled by then, so maybe when outside parties start laying on the pressure come September or so all this crap finally starts to get worked out one way or another.
What better way to ensure that studios move out of California?
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