I agree with this. I thought Tarkin's CGI head was fine and unnoticeable whereas Leia's immediately stood out to me as being wrong.Cstrickland05 said:
Obviously it was CGI, but Tarkin looked fine, Leia was a little off. Not worth everyone getting their panties in a twist over.
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I saw that Tarkin was CG pretty quick and didn't really care. Out of all the things wrong with Star Wars movies, this wasn't one of them. It was fine.
I just don't understand why it's that big of a deal where you would much rather have them use a stand in. Yes it was immediately noticeable and I obviously knew it was cgi, but it wasn't that bad to the point where it was a distraction.TCTTS said:
Still, I would have MUCH rather them just cast someone who looks enough like him and avoided the CGI altogether. The distraction of an actor that only halfway looks like him would have been far less than the distraction of the cartoon I was watching.
And for those who couldn't tell the difference, or had no idea, I truly worry about your observational abilities.
RIP Princess
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO#1 said:
RIP Princess
Saw the film last night. The final scene with Carrie Fisher gave me chills knowing she was in ICU.
RIP
RIP
RIP Leia
I have a friend already upset about CF who is going to see this in about an hour. She is going to be a mess at the end. But i cant spoil that scene for her 
So I finally got back to the theater for a second viewing of Rogue One this morning. I went for lunch immediately afterward, sat down with a Whataburger and started looking at Facebook and the first thing I see is Princess Leia died. Crap. RIP Carrie Fisher.
As for the movie itself, it was far better on my second viewing. I picked up several things that I had previously missed. Now, seeing the probe droid briefly on the Jedha scenes did not magically make the movie better, but it was another one of those "that's cool" moments. I remain impressed with the CGI Tarkin. CGI Leia - I still think her face looked plastic and not at all real, but it didn't come off as badly as with my first impression.
As for the movie itself, it was far better on my second viewing. I picked up several things that I had previously missed. Now, seeing the probe droid briefly on the Jedha scenes did not magically make the movie better, but it was another one of those "that's cool" moments. I remain impressed with the CGI Tarkin. CGI Leia - I still think her face looked plastic and not at all real, but it didn't come off as badly as with my first impression.
I enjoyed the movie a lot. One of the better Star Wars movies IMO.
Loved that Vader scene at the end. Maybe one of the best scenes in the Star Wars series particularly the way he came out of the darkness with the saber lighting up, etc.
Not a Star Wars purist by any stretch so don't go into these movies analyzing all the details.
So what are the plans for other "spinoffs" from the main Saga?
I would like to see one that fills in the gap on Vader, the killing of remaining Jedi, his relationship with Palpatine, the castle on Mustafar, etc. The gap between RotS and R1/ANH.
Loved that Vader scene at the end. Maybe one of the best scenes in the Star Wars series particularly the way he came out of the darkness with the saber lighting up, etc.
Not a Star Wars purist by any stretch so don't go into these movies analyzing all the details.
So what are the plans for other "spinoffs" from the main Saga?
I would like to see one that fills in the gap on Vader, the killing of remaining Jedi, his relationship with Palpatine, the castle on Mustafar, etc. The gap between RotS and R1/ANH.
that is going to be surrealoragator said:
I have a friend already upset about CF who is going to see this in about an hour. She is going to be a mess at the end. But i cant spoil that scene for her
Leia's face in Episode 7 looked plastic and not real too.
A young Han Solo film is already casting. The third hasn't been title. Lots of people want Obi WanQuote:
So what are the plans for other "spinoffs" from the main Saga?
Kind of wonder what the story would be here? Didn't he just spend most of his time after RotS and ANH being a hermit in the jundland wastes on Tatooine or is there more that I'm missing?wangus12 said:A young Han Solo film is already casting. The third hasn't been title. Lots of people want Obi WanQuote:
So what are the plans for other "spinoffs" from the main Saga?
This scene and how Poe gets off Jakku are described in the novelizationoragator said:
Deleted scene. More apropos now.
https://twitter.com/danielmcfadin/status/813490774897782784/video/1
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"A man without a belly is like a house without a balcony"
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Thats the point. There is some non-canon stuff, but otherwise, 19 years to build adventures for him. Refer to our Texags thread about a movie we want to do
well to each his own.....AliasMan02 said:Zombie Jon Snow said:
In 2D it looked fine especially to those with no idea - if viewers hd no idea he was dead or a previously seen character they didn't even question it for Tarkin. I think they clearly knew for Leia and so they just assumed it was CGI.
I had no idea that there was going to be a CGI Tarkin, and it jumped off the screen at me. I knew immediately and it was obvious throughout. A few short scenes of him standing in the shadows looked okay, but any straight on view or scene with him talking was like watching video game footage. Same for my wife, who definitely had NO idea ahead of time, on both our viewings together, both in 2D.
my wife and daughter had no idea it was a CGI until I mentioned it after...even Leia they thought was a standin real person - they did not notice in the least.
so apparently it's not that obvious to everyone.
A group I went with didn't realize it was fake. It was IMAX 3D.
My brother did not realize it was fake..he said "of course he looked older"...did not know that Cushing died 20 years ago
MemAg92 said:Kind of wonder what the story would be here? Didn't he just spend most of his time after RotS and ANH being a hermit in the jundland wastes on Tatooine or is there more that I'm missing?wangus12 said:A young Han Solo film is already casting. The third hasn't been title. Lots of people want Obi WanQuote:
So what are the plans for other "spinoffs" from the main Saga?
There's more that you're missing. We just don't know what it is yet.
Better on a second viewing for me. Enjoyed characters and music more the second go round.
Watched it again today, this time in 2D, and found the CGI for Tarkin to be much better and still thought Leia looked real.
I also enjoyed the movie more overall on second viewing. Understanding the relationships between Jyn, Galen, Saw and Cassian from the beginning helped with the planet-jumpimg first 25-30 minutes.
Also, whoever it was that was acting, or however much of it was CGI (or both)......THAT was the Darth Vader we should have had in Episode III, the Darth Vader Hayden Christensen could only dream of being.
I also enjoyed the movie more overall on second viewing. Understanding the relationships between Jyn, Galen, Saw and Cassian from the beginning helped with the planet-jumpimg first 25-30 minutes.
Also, whoever it was that was acting, or however much of it was CGI (or both)......THAT was the Darth Vader we should have had in Episode III, the Darth Vader Hayden Christensen could only dream of being.
Hayden Christensen is a blight on film history and should never be spoken of again.H6RBW said:
Watched it again today, this time in 2D, and found the CGI for Tarkin to be much better and still thought Leia looked real.
I also enjoyed the movie more overall on second viewing. Understanding the relationships between Jyn, Galen, Saw and Cassian from the beginning helped with the planet-jumpimg first 25-30 minutes.
Also, whoever it was that was acting, or however much of it was CGI (or both)......THAT was the Darth Vader we should have had in Episode III, the Darth Vader Hayden Christensen could only dream of being.
Hot sports opinion: I think it would have been interesting if they put Hayden in the Bacta and the suit. Proving they can do things better than Lucas is a worthy goal for Disney, and using HC successfully would have been a good step if they could manage it.
Its honestly just a case of some people can easily look past issues like that, because they are ultimately not a big deal in the movie. Others find it impossible to overlook a small detail like that. Neither side is more right, it's just how it is.TCTTS said:
Still, I would have MUCH rather them just cast someone who looks enough like him and avoided the CGI altogether. The distraction of an actor that only halfway looks like him would have been far less than the distraction of the cartoon I was watching.
And for those who couldn't tell the difference, or had no idea, I truly worry about your observational abilities.
I noticed it right away, but was able to just ignore it easily but I could see how it would bother others like you. I do think it's a very slippery slope to start using cgi actors for somewhat critical roles in live action movies. I don't think they mix well, and the last 5 pages of this thread are a great reason why.
Dude can't act, he would **** that scene up somehow.AliasMan02 said:
Hot sports opinion: I think it would have been interesting if they put Hayden in the Bacta and the suit. Proving they can do things better than Lucas is a worthy goal for Disney, and using HC successfully would have been a good step if they could manage it.
Is there any need to see Vader unmasked again ever? Bring on the murderous one off pls.
Will we ever see Vader again at all?
I dunno. But it would make me happy to see him wreck faces for 1hr and 57min. They could charge me anything.
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Mr. Knoll said he and his colleagues were aware of the "slippery slope argument," that their simulated Cushing was opening the door to more and more movies using digital reproductions of dead actors.
"I don't imagine that happening," Mr. Knoll said. "This was done for very solid and defendable story reasons. This is a character that is very important to telling this kind of story."
He added: "It is extremely labor-intensive and expensive to do. I don't imagine anybody engaging in this kind of thing in a casual manner."
http://mobile.nytimes.com/2016/12/27/movies/how-rogue-one-brought-back-grand-moff-tarkin.html
This is more than likely you overanalyzing, though it's possible they used a full digital Tarkin in a handful of shots and just didn't go into that much detail in the article. The pin also might've been a detail that was added in post, but that's pretty much an invisible effect these days.AliasMan02 said:TCTTS said:
Only his face was CGI. The rest of him was a real, live actor...
http://www.nytimes.com/2016/12/27/movies/how-rogue-one-brought-back-grand-moff-tarkin.html
I know this sounds crazy and knowitallish, but I question that. I have no doubt that in most cases that was true, like when standing in a crowd of people, but in several scenes in close ups his rank looks like it's an iron-on decal on his shirt, indistinct and one solid piece with the material. The effect is the "too smooth" effect of CGI. Unless his pin-on rank was different for some reason, it was CG.
It's funny what the camera actually sees sometimes.
PatAg said:Dude can't act, he would **** that scene up somehow.AliasMan02 said:
Hot sports opinion: I think it would have been interesting if they put Hayden in the Bacta and the suit. Proving they can do things better than Lucas is a worthy goal for Disney, and using HC successfully would have been a good step if they could manage it.
He was not good in the prequels, but not sure it was all his fault. Ever seen Shattered Glass?
No, but I saw Jumper
If an X-wing can blast an imperial walker why did they sacrifice so many pilots in those T-47 airspeeders in the battle of Hoth?
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