For all we know, the x wing pilot who killed him recognized him and notified command that the mission was accomplished. They may have had a second round of fighters waiting in the wings.

You have no clue what the rest of that base was like OR what the makeup was of the bombers. Who's to say they didn't have a small contingency of ground troops with them, that didn't need to get out because of the targets presenting themselves?

You are trying too hard to split hairs.

Everyone bombs crap to stop production, it is an universal tactic since they realized they could drop bombs from planes.

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Everyone bombs crap to stop production, it is an universal tactic since they realized they could drop bombs from planes.

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Not in Zombie Jon Snow's world.

Just bc we only see some of the destruction doesn't mean it isn't more widespread at that base.

We saw the battle unfold a certain way because Eros was outside (and Rogue One was on the ground as well). There's no telling how the battle would have gone (and how long it would have lasted) had that not been the case.

And as pointed out above, it was a mission of desperation so not all that well planned anyway.

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Everyone bombs crap to stop production, it is an universal tactic since they realized they could drop bombs from planes.

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Stop production of what? The mission was to kill one man.

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Everyone bombs crap to stop production, it is an universal tactic since they realized they could drop bombs from planes.

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Stop production of what? The mission was to kill one man.

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General Draven is convinced that this one man is vital to the Empire's special weapons program. His conversation with Cassian right before he leaves spells it all out. Draven believes Galen is still producing new weapons. At this point the Rebels have no idea what the Death Star is or that it is operational. So yes they are trying to stop production of a mega weapon that they didn't realize was already complete.

I'm not really sure what to do with Rogue One. The last hour is fantastic. I like a lot of individual elements of the first hour, but as a whole it doesn't really stand out as special. It feels like it's a really great movie, but if I stop to think about it I have a hard time finding reasons for why that is.

Ultimately, I would rather watch Force Awakens. I'd still put Rogue One ahead of everything except eps 4, 5, and 7. I really like Rogue One, but I'm not sure I love it, and I love 4, 5, and 7.

Yea it didn't take long to get to that point this time

Finally saw this. It took me two tries to watch it.

The first half up until Galen dies was a mish mash of too many characters and too much world-hopping for me.

Reading up on Saw Guerrera, I see that I should have been watching the Star Wars cartoons to understand who he was. Yeah, no thanks. Even The Phantom Menace thinks the Clone Wars cartoons are childish. Looks like Disney/Lucasfilm probably confused lots of fans because they insisted on tying together a cartoon and movie in order to reinforce their canonicity.

I don't care to read through 47 pages of posts to know what the general feeling of Tarkin and Leah CGI was, but that didn't really bother me at all. I'd rather have a cohesive, focused story than 100% believable CGI.

To me, Krennic was the most interesting character in the whole movie. I felt like he had way more depth than any of the other roles.

On the up side, the entire Scarif half of the movie was superb. I find the idea that the Empire keeps a data center on a paradise archipelago planet very fascinating and perfectly juxtaposed. The AT-ATs plodding through the lagoons was great.

I also applaud this movie for giving us a non-Skywalker perspective of the Rebellion. It was refreshing to see how there are factions vying for supremacy even on the "good guy" side of the Alliance.

In short, probably a good airplane movie or rental. Not sorry I missed this in the theater.

Cool. I'll just have to disagree.

He was propped up to be a force to be reckoned with or something and it really fell flat. The character was nothing more than a plot device to advance the story.

Seems incredibly lazy to use a fantastic actor like Forest Whitaker in less than five minutes of screen time. Instead of having the two samurais no one cared about, why not keep Forest in the picture longer and have him die in some bad ass battle scenes on Scarif?

Disney was probably more interested in filling a diversity quotient than producing a story with a tight plot.

The movie was decent and it introduced some interesting things into the Star Wars universe. The storytelling just wasn't there.

You say this...

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The character was nothing more than a plot device to advance the story.

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But you had also said this...

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It was refreshing to see how there are factions vying for supremacy even on the "good guy" side of the Alliance.

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I'll agree with you that they could have given him a more meaningful death, but as you point out, it was impressive to see a "bad-guys" rebel faction: a group who saw the end justifying their means.

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Reading up on Saw Guerrera, I see that I should have been watching the Star Wars cartoons to understand who he was. Yeah, no thanks. Even The Phantom Menace thinks the Clone Wars cartoons are childish. Looks like Disney/Lucasfilm probably confused lots of fans because they insisted on tying together a cartoon and movie in order to reinforce their canonicity.

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Actually, the Clone Wars series as a whole is far better than the prequels, but from the tone of your post I doubt you've given them a chance.

Also interesting to me that you found half the movie "superb" but wouldn't have bothered to watch it in theaters. Ah well, to each their own, feel free to leave us to enjoy this one.

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Cool. I'll just have to disagree.

He was propped up to be a force to be reckoned with or something and it really fell flat. The character was nothing more than a plot device to advance the story.

Seems incredibly lazy to use a fantastic actor like Forest Whitaker in less than five minutes of screen time. Instead of having the two samurais no one cared about, why not keep Forest in the picture longer and have him die in some bad ass battle scenes on Scarif?

Disney was probably more interested in filling a diversity quotient than producing a story with a tight plot.

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ummm, what race is missing here?


if anything, including Forest would have checked that box.

including Saw any more than he was would have taken away from the 'group' dynamic. He wouldn't have gone along with the rebels plan because it was already established he does his own thing and doesn't follow orders.

For some reason this just bumped on my watchlist, but there is no recent post...

Did the matrix just change something?

Your matrix is broken. 9 new posts today not including yours.

"Whoa"

There are multiple posts today...

Same thing happened to me earlier, then it bumped again with new posts. Maybe staff deleted an old post.

Or maybe my cache picked it up from where I left off? Not sure, that was wierd. I looked and there was no "forward" button and the last post was 12/9/16

Had the same thing happen.

I get a random thread showing up in my watch list once every few months with "new" posts that are months old. This thread seems like it has legit posts though.

I just finished watching the movie again. The last 45 minutes of the movie is just awesome.

Bump for my favorite Star Wars movie. This YouTube video just popped up in my feed and I thought it was pretty cool. "CLEVER Details You Only Notice if You Watch Rogue One and a New Hope Back to Back":

This thread makes me sad.