The below, for me, is another huge takeaway from all of this. Pundits, podcasters, etc have been saying for years now that movie stars are essentially dead, with only a few remaining, mostly in their 50s/60s, replaced instead by franchises.

But now all the sudden you can just feel Chalamet, Zendaya, Butler, and even Pugh becoming household names in this exact moment, establishing "the next generation" like no new "next generation" in quite a while.

In the wave before them, throw in Margot Robbie with Barbie, Gosling as well, Emma Stone potentially about to win her second Oscar, and even Rebecca Ferguson (now with two giant action franchises under her belt), NONE of whom are in a Marvel movie. Add in all the ones who were, but seem to be moving on for the most part + others - Jennifer Lawrence, Natalie Portman, the four Chrises (Evans, Hemsworth, Pratt, and Pine), Gyllenhaal, Anne Hathaway, Pattinson, etc, and it really does feel like movie stars are coming back in a big way...

Kinda feels like we have true movie stars again

— Sophie Holsinger (@sophiemhols) February 26, 2024

I do think there is a new generation of stars as well. Wonka did well enough at the BO to back that up. Zendaya has Challengers about to come out, which will really put the theory to the test at the BO.

My wife won't part 1 because she can't stand the "thing in their nose".

Buddy of mine saw it early and compared the Chalamet/Butler dynamic to Chadwick Boseman/mJB in Black Panther - the first guy is fantastic, but when the second guy shows up, he takes over the movie and doesn't give it up until he's dead.

That's kind of beside the point though. She's still a movie star at this point. (Granted, maybe not on the level of those others I've mentioned, since she hasn't been the lead in a movie yet that I know of.)

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My movie theater better be serving their popcorn with spice melange this time around.

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What's the consensus on flavor/smell? We thinking cinnamon? Maybe with some turmeric notes?

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Cromagnum said:

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My movie theater better be serving their popcorn with spice melange this time around.

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What's the consensus on flavor/smell? We thinking cinnamon? Maybe with some turmeric notes?

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I would be okay with cinnamon.

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Cromagnum said:

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My movie theater better be serving their popcorn with spice melange this time around.

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What's the consensus on flavor/smell? We thinking cinnamon? Maybe with some turmeric notes?

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I think Turmeric needs to rebrand. [/Schwarzenegger]

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I dunno I'm in the camp that is tired of seeing Zendaya in everything. She has the emotional range of a stapler and plays herself in everything.

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I agreed until last night. She did a great job in Dune Part 2.

For some reason my mind always goes to cinnamon.

Damn... i'm getting hyped. I've still not read the second half of Dune, thinking I will just watch the movie without the book knowledge. I just have some issues with some of the story and Paul as a character, but we'll see if that is remedied in the second part.

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Damn... i'm getting hyped. I've still not read the second half of Dune, thinking I will just watch the movie without the book knowledge. I just have some issues with some of the story and Paul as a character, but we'll see if that is remedied in the second part.

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I think it would be fun to watch without knowing what's going to happen.

But also, I think there are some pretty cool ways that the book lore adds to the movie. So after your first viewing, read it then go watch it again.

There was definitely some good context I had from reading the first half of Dune before watching the movie.

However, I am more of a fan of Denis Villeneuve versus Frank Herbert. For that reason, I will go forward with consuming his art first, and then go back and get more context.

Brian Earl Spilner said:

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For some reason my mind always goes to cinnamon.

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It has to be Seinfeld:

Warning do no read the prequel books. They ruin stuff that you envisioned was one way. And isn't. Kind of like midiclorians. The books also aren't very well written.

But come on, it's the most powerful substance in the universe. Just "tastes and smells like cinnamon" feels underwhelming to me.

O/U on Messiah getting greenlit?

Monday March 4

If its not his next film, I can see them holding on announcing it.

Brian Earl Spilner said:

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I dunno, to me it never felt like movie stars went away. (RDJ, Leo, Cruise, Pitt, etc.)

I suppose in the COVID era, there was a bit of a lull because no new movies were coming out, and the next generation of movie stars hadn't quite been established yet, but Chalamet, Zendaya, and Pugh were all well on their way.

The main thing that's changed since then is Queen's Gambit/Menu, Elvis/Dune, and Banshees/Saltburn have now solidified Anya Taylor Joy, Austin Butler, and Barry Keoghan among that group.

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I didn't say movie stars went away...

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Pundits, podcasters, etc have been saying for years now that movie stars are essentially dead, with only a few remaining, mostly in their 50s/60s, replaced instead by franchises.

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... just that the biggest ones are all older, and that it didn't feel like Hollywood was making any NEW movie stars, who weren't outside of the Marvel machine.

Now, though? With this new crop, it feels like a balance is starting to be restored.

Qui-Gon? Is that you?

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If its not his next film, I can see them holding on announcing it.

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Oh we definitely won't get a date or anything, but I can see them officially greenlighting it as a way to get even more buzz around the movie and keep the box office going.

Yeah, it'll be officially greenlit at some point in March/April, but no actual release date for a long while, unless they pull an Avatar and want to claim a weekend in 2028 or whenever.

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Yeah, it'll be officially greenlit at some point in March/April, but no actual release date for a long while, unless they pull an Avatar and want to claim a weekend in 2028 or whenever.

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Dune 6 vs. Avatar 9: Memorial Weekend 2043.

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Denis Villenueve on the script for ‘DUNE 3’:

“It’s almost done but it needs work,”

(@THR) pic.twitter.com/WgtVPCUNiw

— The Streamr (@The_Streamr) February 27, 2024

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Ran into a guy in the bookstore yesterday who said this very thing. He said he thought it was going to be based on book 3 though instead of going to book 2 next.

The third movie is definitely based, at least primarily, on Dune Messiah. That does't mean Villenueve won't pull from other books, or change certain things, the latter of which he apparently did for this movie. I could also see it being called Dune: Part Three so as to keep the titles uniform.