Blatant Disregard said:
Don't think that's what he's meant. Nostalgia (member berries) bias is real. Kids of the late 90s/early 2000s liked the prequels for the same reasons kids of the 70s like the original. Older Star Wars fans like to bash Hayden Christensen's acting and whiny petulance but give Mark Hamil a pass when he basically did the same stuff. The bad CGI is a more modern version of the early costumes in ANH. (The cantina scenes with all the aliens in party city masks are pretty rough when you look at it today.)CJS4715 said:
Are you saying that the OT was only enjoyed by kids in the 70s?
Duncan Idaho said:
It had been so long since I watched the prequels in their entirety that I don't remember this scene. Were the blue balls a weapon of some kind? Or were they replaced with something more menacing later in the production process?
I think I was 11 or 12 when Ep.1 was released and loved it at the time. I'm curious, for those that were already adults, did you sit in that movie and realize the garbage you were watching immediately? or did it take awhile to actually comprehend what you witnessed?CJS4715 said:Duncan Idaho said:
It had been so long since I watched the prequels in their entirety that I don't remember this scene. Were the blue balls a weapon of some kind? Or were they replaced with something more menacing later in the production process?
They are a bomb of sorts that the Gungans launched with catapults.... need the c/lol, g'damn that movie was embarrassing because I got a lot of my friends to buy in and go see it together in high school.
M.C. Swag said:
No one is going to defend the prequels in terms of quality. They are objectively bad films in almost every way; but I liked their intent. I know Lucas didn't intend to tell the Star Wars story with ANH as being Ep. 4 of a 6 part saga, but as a viewer, I really really enjoyed that idea. I was floored to find out how Vader became his evil self and what young Obi Wan in his prime could do. The idea of seeing MULTIPLE Jedi on screen, fighting together, should have been amazing.
Lucas completely failed to execute on those opportunities and I feel like it has biased alot of people against the IDEA of the prequels. Which is a shame. What Lucas tried to do, was appreciated by me.
as soon as the trade federation people started talking in bad asian accents within the first minute, I knew it was in trouble.M.C. Swag said:I think I was 11 or 12 when Ep.1 was released and loved it at the time. I'm curious, for those that were already adults, did you sit in that movie and realize the garbage you were watching immediately? or did it take awhile to actually comprehend what you witnessed?CJS4715 said:Duncan Idaho said:
It had been so long since I watched the prequels in their entirety that I don't remember this scene. Were the blue balls a weapon of some kind? Or were they replaced with something more menacing later in the production process?
They are a bomb of sorts that the Gungans launched with catapults.... need the c/lol, g'damn that movie was embarrassing because I got a lot of my friends to buy in and go see it together in high school.
This.M.C. Swag said:Don't think that's what he's meant. Nostalgia (member berries) bias is real. Kids of the late 90s/early 2000s liked the prequels for the same reasons kids of the 70s like the original. Older Star Wars fans like to bash Hayden Christensen's acting and whiny petulance but give Mark Hamil a pass when he basically did the same stuff. The bad CGI is a more modern version of the early costumes in ANH. (The cantina scenes with all the aliens in party city masks are pretty rough when you look at it today.)CJS4715 said:
Are you saying that the OT was only enjoyed by kids in the 70s?
I was 16 so not an adult, but I and many others knew right away what a horrible mess it wasM.C. Swag said:I think I was 11 or 12 when Ep.1 was released and loved it at the time. I'm curious, for those that were already adults, did you sit in that movie and realize the garbage you were watching immediately? or did it take awhile to actually comprehend what you witnessed?CJS4715 said:Duncan Idaho said:
It had been so long since I watched the prequels in their entirety that I don't remember this scene. Were the blue balls a weapon of some kind? Or were they replaced with something more menacing later in the production process?
They are a bomb of sorts that the Gungans launched with catapults.... need the c/lol, g'damn that movie was embarrassing because I got a lot of my friends to buy in and go see it together in high school.
M.C. Swag said:
I think I was 11 or 12 when Ep.1 was released and loved it at the time. I'm curious, for those that were already adults, did you sit in that movie and realize the garbage you were watching immediately? or did it take awhile to actually comprehend what you witnessed?
It was hard for me to acknowledge because I wanted to like it so badly, but I did realize it pretty quickly. The fact they went with a little kid for Anakin, JarJar, the Gungans, the silly looking robot soldiers all, etc. all added up to being disappointed immediately. It just felt like so much more of a kids movie than the feel of the old Star Wars I grew up with. I do think that disappointment grew the longer I had to dwell on it, but I was definitely disappointed immediately and knew I'd just watched a total dud.Quote:
I'm curious, for those that were already adults, did you sit in that movie and realize the garbage you were watching immediately? or did it take awhile to actually comprehend what you witnessed?
M.C. Swag said:
Y'all seen those youtube vids of people back in '99 walking out of the theater after just seeing Ep. 1? So many seemed to love it. I wonder how much of that had to do with the final minutes of the film being the Darth Maul fight scene.
Did he ever watch ep4 in the theater?CJS4715 said:M.C. Swag said:
Y'all seen those youtube vids of people back in '99 walking out of the theater after just seeing Ep. 1? So many seemed to love it. I wonder how much of that had to do with the final minutes of the film being the Darth Maul fight scene.
I had one buddy, HUGE fanboy (read all the books, etc), who did try to defend it walking out of the theater, and he brought up the lightsaber fight as the main crux of his argument. My only response to him was, "roger, roger".
It's the end of a 16 year drought.M.C. Swag said:
Y'all seen those youtube vids of people back in '99 walking out of the theater after just seeing Ep. 1? So many seemed to love it. I wonder how much of that had to do with the final minutes of the film being the Darth Maul fight scene.
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If you're starving and somebody throw you a cracker, you gonna be like this:Quote:
*******, that's the best cracker I ever ate in my life!
That ain't no regular cracker, was it?
What was that, a Saltine?
*******, that was delicious!
That wasn't no Saltine. That was...That was a Ritz.
That wasn't a Ritz? God, that was the best cracker I ever ate in my life.
Can I have another one, please? Please, one more.
AGSPORTSFAN07 said:
Did he ever watch ep4 in the theater?
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A totally changed ending could hint at a fundamental misunderstanding between director and studio, but rather than a sop to a playing-it-safe company that wanted a softer conclusion, Rogue One's ending was tweaked to make it darker. Edwards says the original script had the main characters survive, rather than die during the battle of Scarif not because he wanted to keep them alive, but purely because he had assumed Disney wouldn't let him kill them off.
So Mickey let them balls hang.Duncan Idaho said:
so this is interesting and some what shockingQuote:
A totally changed ending could hint at a fundamental misunderstanding between director and studio, but rather than a sop to a playing-it-safe company that wanted a softer conclusion, Rogue One's ending was tweaked to make it darker. Edwards says the original script had the main characters survive, rather than die during the battle of Scarif not because he wanted to keep them alive, but purely because he had assumed Disney wouldn't let him kill them off.
http://www.theverge.com/2016/12/20/14022380/rogue-one-ending-original-different-gareth-edwards
Because there's something very nostalgic for those of us who did. And being a fanboy doesn't necessarily mean nostalgic. Which explains why the older generations didn't like eps 1-3 and a lot of younger kids did. They weren't there to witness the originals in the theater. Which is where I generated a lot of disgust for eps 1-3. Not because they were poor stories but because they didn't follow in the footsteps of the originals. I would love for 1-3 to get re-written and remade. It needs to be done.CJS4715 said:AGSPORTSFAN07 said:
Did he ever watch ep4 in the theater?
Being my age, he only saw the re-release in theater. What's your point?
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And now we know why Jyn is seen on the beach running with the hard drive (data tape, whatever) - she lived originally. Holy crap - letting almost everyone live would have destroyed this story.
I was hoping for a directors cut that would have been the "darker" version...but now I have no interest in seeing the originally envisioned story.CJS4715 said:
Mickey finally let his way of doing business leak into the company's filmmaking. Balls exposed and dropped on the competition.
Edit: And now we know why Jyn is seen on the beach running with the hard drive (data tape, whatever) - she lived originally. Holy crap - letting almost everyone live would have destroyed this story.
maybe he turns his suit off and holds his breath.twilly said:
Another observation about Rogue One...
In the Darth Vader bad ass killing scene, at the beginning, the only illumination comes from his igniting his light saber. What about the lights on his chest plate and belt? Wouldn't those have been seen in complete darkness?
And just to be sure, I rewatched his entrance into the Tantive IV in ANH, and sure enough, those lights were on.
I thought that as well, but you hear his mechanical breathing right before the saber comes on.Flashdiaz said:maybe he turns his suit off and holds his breath.twilly said:
Another observation about Rogue One...
In the Darth Vader bad ass killing scene, at the beginning, the only illumination comes from his igniting his light saber. What about the lights on his chest plate and belt? Wouldn't those have been seen in complete darkness?
And just to be sure, I rewatched his entrance into the Tantive IV in ANH, and sure enough, those lights were on.
he is....which is just laughable and stupid.CJS4715 said:
Are you saying that the OT was only enjoyed by kids in the 70s?
twilly said:I thought that as well, but you hear his mechanical breathing right before the saber comes on.Flashdiaz said:maybe he turns his suit off and holds his breath.twilly said:
Another observation about Rogue One...
In the Darth Vader bad ass killing scene, at the beginning, the only illumination comes from his igniting his light saber. What about the lights on his chest plate and belt? Wouldn't those have been seen in complete darkness?
And just to be sure, I rewatched his entrance into the Tantive IV in ANH, and sure enough, those lights were on.
bangobango said:
You ever seen that scene in Galaxy Quest where the super fan boy asks Tim Allen some super-technical question about the show?
