Lindsay Clancy Trial

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Hank the Grifter
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Vessel said:

I agree and if I were charged with a crime, I would not have a jury of my peers. There might be one net taxpayer, white Christian male, with above average intelligence on my jury, if I'm lucky.

The only way the jury is my peers is that they aren't politicians. But somehow several of them would have low IQ jobs in the government.

As George Carlin once said, think about how dumb the average American is and then realize he's smarter than half of the country.
bonfarr
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Hardcore Greg said:

BadMoonRisin said:



Wow. This is disgusting.

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How depraved has
@CBC
become?

Canada's state broadcaster has a new article on Lindsay Clancy, the Massachusetts mother accused of strangling her three children, ages 5, 3, and 8 months.

CBC does not ask how a just and humane society should treat the killing of children. It asks how much easier the case would have been in Canada.

Canada already has an infanticide law: if a mother kills her own child under the age of one while her mind is "disturbed" from birth, the charge can drop to a lesser offence with a maximum of five years.

CBC's expert then names what, in her view, is the real problem: Clancy's two older children were past their first birthday, so the lesser charge of infanticide would not apply.

"That is a shortcoming in the Canadian law."

This is so twisted. It is almost diabolical.

Three children are dead. And what does the state broadcaster do? It platforms the idea that the defect is not the killings: it is that Canadian law would not reduce the charge for the mother killing her two children older than one.

Friends, this is how the ground gets prepared for horrific injustices against young human lives.

First, the child in the womb is dehumanized as a "blob of tissue," a "fetus," or a "product of conception," so abortion becomes acceptable.

Then, for children who are inconvenient after birth, they become a special legal category through infanticide laws that do not recognize their full humanity.

And, as CBC ruthlessly highlighted, the "shortcoming" is that toddlers are still treated as victims of murder.

CBC did not say "post-birth abortion." It did not have to. It treated more leniency after birth as the civilized positionand the age limit as the thing that needs fixing.

When a state broadcaster speaks this way, it is not just covering a trial. It is softening the public for what comes next.



I know there are some good people in the countryside, but hear me out...tactical nukes in the urban environments. Look at the turnaround Japan was able to make after we b*tch slapped em a couple times. Just think about it...


My BIL spent many years working as a Lobbyist for Victim's Rights in Canada. His position was paid for by a Police Association in Ontario. Canada has always been soft on crime.
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Martin Cash
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Infection_Ag11 said:

I've pointed out over the years how increasingly problematic the jury system is becoming in our modern society, and I cant help but feel like this is another in an alarming number of recent cases reinforcing my points.

Between the jury statistics surrounding gender/ethnicity and bias, the complete abandonment of legislatively enforced juror standards over the last 50 years and the worsening political divide jury trials for at least high profile, charged criminal cases are becoming harder to justify. Too many Americans are simply too stupid, too biased and/or too indifferent to justice, and because we no longer have any checks against those people ending up on juries it's just a recipe for repeated disasters.

In Texas, most counties constituted their jury wheel from voter registration roles because the requirements are almost identical. 30 to 35 years ago that changed. Minorities groups complained that they weren't being represented on juries. I can't remember if it was a legislative change or case law, but counties were required to use the driver's license rolls for jury panels. The difference was night and day.
Aggie95
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I feel like most judges would rule based on case law, etc....the vast majority of jurors, especially females, are going to base it 100% on "feelings".
Ginormus Ag
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That is even worse! Minorities are too stupid to get a drivers license! Democrats told me so!
Serious Lee
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so eloquent

TxSquarebody
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Martin Cash said:

Infection_Ag11 said:

I've pointed out over the years how increasingly problematic the jury system is becoming in our modern society, and I cant help but feel like this is another in an alarming number of recent cases reinforcing my points.

Between the jury statistics surrounding gender/ethnicity and bias, the complete abandonment of legislatively enforced juror standards over the last 50 years and the worsening political divide jury trials for at least high profile, charged criminal cases are becoming harder to justify. Too many Americans are simply too stupid, too biased and/or too indifferent to justice, and because we no longer have any checks against those people ending up on juries it's just a recipe for repeated disasters.

In Texas, most counties constituted their jury wheel from voter registration roles because the requirements are almost identical. 30 to 35 years ago that changed. Minorities groups complained that they weren't being represented on juries. I can't remember if it was a legislative change or case law, but counties were required to use the driver's license rolls for jury panels. The difference was night and day.


I see what you did there!
Hardcore Greg
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Serious Lee said:

so eloquent



Haha that was great...i don't know if it's my algo or what, but I have seen a noticable emergence of Asian male influencers posting this type of content. And also content defending white men who are being villainized wholesale.
Serious Lee
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the asian dude, tony LC signs, is downright hilarious. check him out if you havent already
Hardcore Greg
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Serious Lee said:

the asian dude, tony LC signs, is downright hilarious. check him out if you havent already

Haha yeah he's incredible
MsDoubleD81
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Jury sent another note. Waiting for all to come back.
VegasAg86
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Meanwhile, in Virginia:

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In June 2026, Parkinson was at home in Williamsburg (James City County), 8 months pregnant and studying for the bar exam. Her 5-year-old son, Sam, asked to walk about a half-mile along a sidewalk in their gated community to collect goose feathers near a pond they had just visited together earlier that day. A passerby saw the boy alone and called community security. Security escorted the boy home and contacted local police. Three police vehicles and Child Protective Services (CPS) workers responded to the house.


That's Google's AI summary from this:
https://reason.com/2026/09/02/virginia-mom-gets-6-month-suspended-jail-sentence-for-letting-5-year-old-walk-to-the-pond/
AgGrad99
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Serious Lee said:

so eloquent




Perfect
MsDoubleD81
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Talking to jurors one by one.
BadMoonRisin
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Assuming he is confirming that they cannot come to a consensus here.

Otherwise it would just be notification a verdict has been reached.
TxAg82
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Serious Lee said:

the asian dude, tony LC signs, is downright hilarious. check him out if you havent already


What's up homies, its Tony. Great marketing.
MsDoubleD81
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Reddington was upset with what went on at sidebar
Infection_Ag11
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That's pretty good
MsDoubleD81
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Judge going over reasonable doubt with jurors
MsDoubleD81
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And sent back to deliberate
Martin Cash
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It's almost quitting time anyway.
MsDoubleD81
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1 juror who refuses to listen to reasonable doubt according to Reddington and called for his removal.
ErnestEndeavor
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Defense wants a juror removed who is apparently holding out. Foreperson sent a note to the judge saying a juror is not listening to the reasonable doubt instruction. Apparently before the cameras came on the judge swore in the jurors and had them swear that they would follow the law, then gave them another instruction on reasonable doubt.

Note that the only public representation of the juror note is from the defense as it was not read aloud to the public. It's possible this is the defense spinning the note to mean something more than it does.
TrumpsBarber
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Reddington must believe the jurors are voting 11-1 for NG by insanity and they are evidently pissed at the hold out. That is my guess.
ErnestEndeavor
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Yep
Fenrir
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Maybe but I'm not sold on that. I think this is just another easy box to check in case he needs to appeal.
Vessel
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So they're saying one juror appears to have reasonable doubt, but still wants to convict?

Otherwise the claim makes no sense.
techno-ag
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TrumpsBarber said:

Reddington must believe the jurors are voting 11-1 for NG by insanity and they are evidently pissed at the hold out. That is my guess.

Hodor!

The left cannot kill the Spirit of Charlie Kirk.
Logos Stick
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That;s funny.
Aggie95
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Vessel said:

So they're saying one juror appears to have reasonable doubt, but still wants to convict?

Otherwise the claim makes no sense.

I view it as they have 11 ready to acquit and one that is adamant that he/she THINKS she's guilty and is holding out and not following the reasonable doubt "rule"
Twice an Aggie
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We will see. It sure seems that the judge explained passing reasonable dount but not having to be completely certain first. That would lean towards 11 guilty and 1 holdout who is on the NG side. Judge speech pointe out the state must pass the reasonable doubt threshold but not establish complete certainty. Maybe the juror is playing a what-if type game angering other jurors with the social media conspiracy theories. We will see.
Slicer97
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Twice an Aggie said:

We will see. It sure seems that the judge explained passing reasonable dount but not having to be completely certain first. That would lean towards 11 guilty and 1 holdout who is on the NG side. Judge speech pointe out the state must pass the reasonable doubt threshold but not establish complete certainty. Maybe the juror is playing a what-if type game angering other jurors with the social media conspiracy theories. We will see.

I hope this is the case. This woman should never breathe free air again. In a just world, she would never breathe any kind of air again.
Broncos
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Aggie95 said:

Vessel said:

So they're saying one juror appears to have reasonable doubt, but still wants to convict?

Otherwise the claim makes no sense.

I view it as they have 11 ready to acquit and one that is adamant that he/she THINKS she's guilty and is holding out and not following the reasonable doubt "rule"


I'm hoping it's the other way but if you're correct I view it as 11 morons.
ErnestEndeavor
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Judge dismisses jury for the day. Went back and listened to the argument by the attorneys and the judge did mention something about not wanting to side with the "11 over the 1." He could have been giving a hypothetical but there's a good chance to note indicated they were 11-1.
Fenrir
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First thing the judge said was "proof beyond reasonable doubt does not mean proof beyond all possible doubt"
 
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