Lindsay Clancy Trial

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AgGrad99
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Farmer_J said:

Did anyone hear a peep from women about Iryna?



That highlights a very real truth.

Innocent women are murdered, and they are silent. They protect criminals who are here illegally. They fight for the right to abort an 8 month old fetus....and then protect this murdering mother because she was 'sad', without any regard to the children or their lives.

It's like we're living in a bizarro world.
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No Spin Ag said:

I don't know if it's been addressed already, but does anyone know why women are still talking about this woman in the "If she did it?"

She already admitted that she strangled her children to death yet there's so many women, even those I work with who are highly educated, who talk about her as if it hasn't been proven that she killed her kids.




People are capable of believing literally anything under the right set of circumstances. In a world where genuine believers in Mormonism, Scientology, flat earth theory, young earth creationism, the WWE, the moon landing conspiracy and the vaccine/autism link exist, I really don't understand why anyone would be surprised by any nonsensical belief propagated via social media.

Like I can prove to anyone, right now, that the earth isn't flat and that we landed on the moon. Yet millions of people around the world believe such nonsense. Why would Lindsey Clancy saying she did it necessarily convince everyone that she did?
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Aggies1322 said:

Hardcore Greg said:

Thunderstruck xx said:

Something is seriously wrong with our society



There have been like 4-5 or more of these horrific cases just in recent weeks. I pray this does not become "a thing".

Of course it will. Women are susceptible to social contagions… they will do anything for attention. See: the teenage girl trans epidemic that sprouted up over night and disappeared as the attention wore off.

Exactly. This will be as common as moms with transgender kids.
Infection_Ag11
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Vessel said:

backintexas2013 said:

What's your guess? 10-2 or 9-3 for guilty


It's probably the three dudes and 2 or 3 of the women for "guilty" and then 6 or 7 women in "not guilty by reason of insanity."


Could also be that they just can't agree on which charge to convict her of. Even if they all agree she was not insane, if they can't agree on the actual charge it'll still be a hung jury.
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No Spin Ag said:

I don't know if it's been addressed already, but does anyone know why women are still talking about this woman in the "If she did it?"

She already admitted that she strangled her children to death yet there's so many women, even those I work with who are highly educated, who talk about her as if it hasn't been proven that she killed her kids.



Because the prosecutions own witness said she didn't remember doing it. When told that she did it, she then went through the process of trying to remember it, which is being presented as a "confession". He (or maybe one of the other witnesses) even said false memories can be implanted if attempted recall isn't carefully done.

The defense actually did a really good job of creating doubt and the prosecutions own witnesses did a craptastic job that helped the defense more than anything.

ETA: The defense actually asked to bifurcate the trial at the beginning in an attempt to enter a "not guilty" plea, then if found guilty, determine sanity. Prosecution objected. Judge sided with prosecution
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Infection_Ag11 said:

Vessel said:

backintexas2013 said:

What's your guess? 10-2 or 9-3 for guilty


It's probably the three dudes and 2 or 3 of the women for "guilty" and then 6 or 7 women in "not guilty by reason of insanity."


Could also be that they just can't agree on which charge to convict her of. Even if they all agree she was not insane, if they can't agree on the actual charge it'll still be a hung jury.

Maybe all those who don't think she was insane are split on the charge. Based on what we are learning about modern women, I'd be shocked if there weren't at least 5 of the 9 women who are fully not guilty by reason of insanity.
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pdc093 said:

Yes; make an example out of her....



That lady is what years of media brainwashing, no exercise, and eating fast food for every meal looks like. Now she will spend most of the rest of her life in jail (hopefully).
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It's hard to guess what's going on, we will just have to wait for what happens after this inevitably ends up as a mistrial. Individual people can believe really stupid ***** Remember all the people that thought fauci was doing a great job?
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Infection_Ag11 said:

No Spin Ag said:

I don't know if it's been addressed already, but does anyone know why women are still talking about this woman in the "If she did it?"

She already admitted that she strangled her children to death yet there's so many women, even those I work with who are highly educated, who talk about her as if it hasn't been proven that she killed her kids.




People are capable of believing literally anything under the right set of circumstances. In a world where genuine believers in Mormonism, Scientology, flat earth theory, young earth creationism, the WWE, the moon landing conspiracy and the vaccine/autism link exist, I really don't understand why anyone would be surprised by any nonsensical belief propagated via social media.

Like I can prove to anyone, right now, that the earth isn't flat and that we landed on the moon. Yet millions of people around the world believe such nonsense. Why would Lindsey Clancy saying she did it necessarily convince everyone that she did?

Well, dang I encouraged both of my boys to attend BYU Provo precisely because that is the best place for them to meet a normal girl with conservative and traditional family values and not the absurd beliefs of the day.
deddog
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AgGrad99 said:

Farmer_J said:

Did anyone hear a peep from women about Iryna?



That highlights a very real truth.

Innocent women are murdered, and they are silent. They protect criminals who are here illegally. They fight for the right to abort an 8 month old fetus....and then protect this murdering mother because she was 'sad', without any regard to the children or their lives.

It's like we're living in a bizarro world.

You will reject the evidence of your eyes, it was the Party's most essential command...George Orwell

We are living 1984, and these women are broken.
MsDoubleD81
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Jury sent home for the night.
Hardcore Greg
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Infection_Ag11 said:

No Spin Ag said:

I don't know if it's been addressed already, but does anyone know why women are still talking about this woman in the "If she did it?"

She already admitted that she strangled her children to death yet there's so many women, even those I work with who are highly educated, who talk about her as if it hasn't been proven that she killed her kids.




People are capable of believing literally anything under the right set of circumstances. In a world where genuine believers in Mormonism, Scientology, flat earth theory, young earth creationism, the WWE, the moon landing conspiracy and the vaccine/autism link exist, I really don't understand why anyone would be surprised by any nonsensical belief propagated via social media.

Like I can prove to anyone, right now, that the earth isn't flat and that we landed on the moon. Yet millions of people around the world believe such nonsense. Why would Lindsey Clancy saying she did it necessarily convince everyone that she did?

I can find people who blindly but fervently defended Anthoy Fauci throughout the entire pandemic and after as well, wink wink.

Along with tens of millions of Atheists who believe, through blind faith, that something can be created from nothing and that the entire universe just came into being from absolute nothingness, via magic.

Tons of people believe socialism is a great idea as well...and that there are more than two genders and that biological males should be able to crush women in sports competition and then shower and change with them afterwards.

But you know what...even though I consider those people to be ignorant, and their beliefs to be absurd, I still don't put them in the same ballpark as people who seem to be genuinely crazy and deranged enough to go to bat for a f-ing psycho killer who murdered her three children in cold blood.
Martin Q. Blank
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MsDoubleD81 said:

Jury sent home for the night.

To get on social media and read encouragement from their side to stand firm.
ErnestEndeavor
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The Tuey-Rodriguez instruction by the judge is Massachusetts' last ditch effort. If they report back another deadlock there will be a mistrial and everything starts over.
MsDoubleD81
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They are saying they have to come back and say they are deadlocked, judge can't just say go home.
Silent For Too Long
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At this point just keep retrying her over and over again so she has to live in perpetual torment of what she did to those poor helpless babies
ErnestEndeavor
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Yep. The judge sent them home for the day but they will be back tomorrow. Up to the jury to tell the judge again that they are deadlocked. At that time, it's over.
deddog
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Silent For Too Long said:

At this point just keep retrying her over and over again so she has to live in perpetual torment of what she did to those poor helpless babies

The only person that will end up tormenting, is the father.
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Hardcore Greg said:

Infection_Ag11 said:

No Spin Ag said:

I don't know if it's been addressed already, but does anyone know why women are still talking about this woman in the "If she did it?"

She already admitted that she strangled her children to death yet there's so many women, even those I work with who are highly educated, who talk about her as if it hasn't been proven that she killed her kids.




People are capable of believing literally anything under the right set of circumstances. In a world where genuine believers in Mormonism, Scientology, flat earth theory, young earth creationism, the WWE, the moon landing conspiracy and the vaccine/autism link exist, I really don't understand why anyone would be surprised by any nonsensical belief propagated via social media.

Like I can prove to anyone, right now, that the earth isn't flat and that we landed on the moon. Yet millions of people around the world believe such nonsense. Why would Lindsey Clancy saying she did it necessarily convince everyone that she did?

I can find people who blindly but fervently defended Anthoy Fauci throughout the entire pandemic and after as well, wink wink.

Along with tens of millions of Atheists who believe, through blind faith, that something can be created from nothing and that the entire universe just came into being from absolute nothingness, via magic.

Tons of people believe socialism is a great idea as well...and that there are more than two genders and that biological males should be able to crush women in sports competition and then shower and change with them afterwards.

But you know what...even though I consider those people to be ignorant, and their beliefs to be absurd, I still don't put them in the same ballpark as people who seem to be genuinely crazy and deranged enough to go to bat for a f-ing psycho killer who murdered her three children in cold blood.


Who are you talking to?
Gaeilge
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Senator Lee is BASED!
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The Tuey-Rodriguez instruction by the judge is Massachusetts' last ditch effort. If they report back another deadlock there will be a mistrial and everything starts over.

Which is obviously something they don't know or it seems like they would have sent out a note before the judge sent them home today.

The judge should have given them that instruction after the 1st deadlock & they'd be done. It seems disingenuous that they didn't have this instruction. I bet everybody on a jury in Massachusetts will know it now. What is it, 3 times deadlocked? It's like they are being held hostage & as often as jurists are told to make their own decisions & not be swayed by public opinion or other jurors, that's exactly what this judge is trying to force.

I hope people stay true to their opinion.
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The left cannot kill the Spirit of Charlie Kirk.
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schwack schwack said:

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The Tuey-Rodriguez instruction by the judge is Massachusetts' last ditch effort. If they report back another deadlock there will be a mistrial and everything starts over.

Which is obviously something they don't know or it seems like they would have sent out a note before the judge sent them home today.

The judge should have given them that instruction after the 1st deadlock & they'd be done. It seems disingenuous that they didn't have this instruction. I bet everybody on a jury in Massachusetts will know it now. What is it, 3 times deadlocked? It's like they are being held hostage & as often as jurists are told to make their own decisions & not be swayed by public opinion or other jurors, that's exactly what this judge is trying to force.

I hope people stay true to their opinion.

I mean, this is kinda how deliberations work.

Can you imagine the public outcry had the judge declared a mistrial after one day?
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No Spin Ag said:

I don't know if it's been addressed already, but does anyone know why women are still talking about this woman in the "If she did it?"

She already admitted that she strangled her children to death yet there's so many women, even those I work with who are highly educated, who talk about her as if it hasn't been proven that she killed her kids.



There are women and her supporters who think the husband did it all, that the husband was the murderer. Was the commanding voice she heard. Are asking why she wore gloves. think the husband hypnotized her into believing she did it, etc. Anything but the straightforward Occam's razor explanation that this ***** strangled the life out of her kids because she couldn't handle being a mom anymore and is now hoping an insanity defense gets her off scot-free.
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Can you imagine the public outcry had the judge declared a mistrial after one day?

Sending them back one time seems reasonable. I don't think 3+ times is. Just my opinion.
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Ducks4brkfast said:

schwack schwack said:

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The Tuey-Rodriguez instruction by the judge is Massachusetts' last ditch effort. If they report back another deadlock there will be a mistrial and everything starts over.

Which is obviously something they don't know or it seems like they would have sent out a note before the judge sent them home today.

The judge should have given them that instruction after the 1st deadlock & they'd be done. It seems disingenuous that they didn't have this instruction. I bet everybody on a jury in Massachusetts will know it now. What is it, 3 times deadlocked? It's like they are being held hostage & as often as jurists are told to make their own decisions & not be swayed by public opinion or other jurors, that's exactly what this judge is trying to force.

I hope people stay true to their opinion.

I mean, this is kinda how deliberations work.

Can you imagine the public outcry had the judge declared a mistrial after one day?

The judge just challenged those considering guilty to be certain they don't have 1 iota of doubt. He's essentially telling them to go with insanity and get it over with. There's going to be public outcry no matter what
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4stringAg said:

No Spin Ag said:

I don't know if it's been addressed already, but does anyone know why women are still talking about this woman in the "If she did it?"

She already admitted that she strangled her children to death yet there's so many women, even those I work with who are highly educated, who talk about her as if it hasn't been proven that she killed her kids.



There are women and her supporters who think the husband did it all, that the husband was the murderer. Was the commanding voice she heard. Are asking why she wore gloves. think the husband hypnotized her into believing she did it, etc. Anything but the straightforward Occam's razor explanation that this ***** strangled the life out of her kids because she couldn't handle being a mom anymore and is now hoping an insanity defense gets her off scot-free.

The only reasonable objection I've heard goes like this: If she had actually killed herself by throwing herself out a window, the cops would have instantly arrested him and investigated him. But since she was alive and he said that she said she did it, he was never investigated at all.

Not saying it's convincing, but it's also the exact track the defense would have taken had the judge allowed for the trial to be considered in two phases. It would have almost certainly caused enough doubt to have resulted in full acquital
Hardcore Greg
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Serious question, back in the early 2000's, was there a significant % of women who were sympathetic towards Andrea Yates, with many even goaltending for her or blaming the husband? Aside from there being 5 children, instead of 3, what is the difference between the two?

I was in college back then and wasn't very plugged into the case, I just remember being deeply disturbed by the notion that a seemingly normal suburban mother (of all people) could go so crazy as to methodically kill all of her children in cold blood.

Has social media and higher education just done a complete number on females? WTF gives??? Why are so many women so insane and ret@rded now? Birth control a possible factor as to why their brains are so scrambled??? Something is up, and hard to believe it is just social media, that they are THIS susceptible to brainless propaganda.
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schwack schwack said:

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Can you imagine the public outcry had the judge declared a mistrial after one day?

Sending them back one time seems reasonable. I don't think 3+ times is. Just my opinion.

Is it possible that he is hoping that he can string this out and hope and pray that the crazy females on the jury who support Lindsay Clancy somehow magically become not crazy and ret@rded with the passage of time?

Like, "I'm going to give you several chances to rethink your astoundingly stupid, psychotic and inhumane stance, since you are females, ruled by emotion". I'm not a lawyer, sorry if that's a dumb question.
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There were differences. For one, the father was not doing much, if anything, to help Andrea Yates. I do not recall hordes of women wearing pink clothes to support her.
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techno-ag said:




Reports today seem to point to two female jurors as the holdouts, with them going so far as to wear pink yesterday and today.

Seems like it's 10-2 right now.
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FTAG 2000 said:

techno-ag said:




Reports today seem to point to two female jurors as the holdouts, with them going so far as to wear pink yesterday and today.

Seems like it's 10-2 right now.


If that is the case, then they will be on the mainstream news and talk show circuit soon.
ErnestEndeavor
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The Tuey-Rodriguez instruction is addressed to both sides, those convinced of guilt and those convinced of not guilty. It's a neutral admonition.
Logos Stick
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I wonder if they are hung on guilty at all, or the charge itself?
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TrumpsBarber said:

FTAG 2000 said:

techno-ag said:




Reports today seem to point to two female jurors as the holdouts, with them going so far as to wear pink yesterday and today.

Seems like it's 10-2 right now.


If that is the case, then they will be on the mainstream news and talk show circuit soon.


That would be a very unwise move, imo.
 
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