Lindsay Clancy Trial

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MsDoubleD81
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Ducks4brkfast said:

MsDoubleD81 said:

Question about if mistrial. Can she ask for for home confinement while waiting on second?

She's on a pretty heavy suicide watch so I don't think there's a chance that happens.


That was a question on one of the YouTubers.....
Martin Q. Blank
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Rapier108 said:

MonkeyKnifeFighter said:

Queso1 said:

I'd agree that this is a very clear cut case of who killed the kids, but definitely not clear cut on the murder charge.

Reading the tea leaves of the case here, but I think the term "beyond the shadow of a doubt" is going to be the biggest obstacle in the way of a conviction.

That being said - this case and this jury right now is probably the highest likelihood we'll have of jurors leaning only on evidence presented - and all agreeing that her hands were the ones that held those exercise bands. Any retrial in Mass. is going to run the huge risk of 1 of the 12 thinking she didn't kill the kids at all.

The standard is "beyond a reasonable doubt," not "beyond the shadow of a doubt."

Women aren't reasonable though.
hph6203
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Broncos
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After following this very loosely, I've learned one thing. There are way too many women who want to set a very detrimental precedent for women going forward. What a bizarre hill to die on.
Tramp96
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MsDoubleD81 said:

They don't have OT in Massachusetts.


So games can end in a tie?
backintexas2013
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I don't remember them ever wanting to plead not guilty. Got a link to that? (Not guilty as in didn't do it. Just wanted to clarify)
The Banned
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backintexas2013 said:

I don't remember them ever wanting to plead not guilty. Got a link to that? (Not guilty as in didn't do it. Just wanted to clarify)

He tried to bifurcate the trial. So essentially 1. Did she even do this? If yes, then 2. Was she insane? Prosecution said they wanted step 1 to be assumed as yes and proceed to step 2. Judge allowed it
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Broncos said:

After following this very loosely, I've learned one thing. There are way too many women who want to set a very detrimental precedent for women going forward. What a bizarre hill to die on.

Way too many women resent having been born a woman and being the biologically weaker sex and given to motherhood.

The rail against God and nature and seek to upturn the natural order, which has only left them miserable, or what our therapeutic society would term "mentally ill".

This woman was not psychotic. She had to suppress the good within her to be evil. The psychotics I have worked with didn't premeditatively act out - send the husband away and go to the basement (to hide from the prying public outside and maybe even the eyes of God) - they just . . . do. But to avoid the penalty her consciousness, and soul, must now repay she deceives herself that the filicide wasn't the "real me". It was the voice. It was the mental illness, it was the doctor's who were responsible for her and her actions.

And she needs society to confirm that as well.

She will be tormented the rest of her life with the sights, sounds, and smells of murdering her three beautiful children, and so tormented will appear crazy. And society will say see - she was insane.
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PlaneCrashGuy said:

God bless anyone who is steadfast in voting guilty and is not willing to compromise to what I suspect is immense pressure in that room.


Against popular opinion, this is why I think 12 Angry Men is a terrible movie. I get the point but to me the premise holds true for this and a guilty person goes free.
Martin Cash
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Massachusetts law placing the burden of proof on the state to prove sanity is, well, it's insane.
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A_Gang_Ag_06 said:

PlaneCrashGuy said:

God bless anyone who is steadfast in voting guilty and is not willing to compromise to what I suspect is immense pressure in that room.

Against popular opinion, this is why I think 12 Angry Men is a terrible movie. I get the point but to me the premise holds true for this and a guilty person goes free.

I had to read it (and watch the movie) back in high school, and thought it made a pretty good point in establishing reasonable doubt.

The main problem with the deliberations, legally, is that a juror isn't allowed to introduce his own evidence. Like buying a knife to prove that the murder weapon isn't unique.
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Broncos said:

After following this very loosely, I've learned one thing. There are way too many women who want to set a very detrimental precedent for women going forward. What a bizarre hill to die on.


Totally agree......sad
deddog
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David_Puddy said:

Broncos said:

After following this very loosely, I've learned one thing. There are way too many women who want to set a very detrimental precedent for women going forward. What a bizarre hill to die on.


Totally agree......sad

There is a very high correlation between the women who want this, and the women who are ok with men in skirts in the restroom with their kids.

And no amount of facts will change their mind.
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deddog said:

HaroldShipmanAg said:

only a white liberal female could strangle her kids with exercise bands and have the first trial be hung...amazing times we live in.

Women who are ok with murdering their child in their womb, will be perfectly ok murdering them outside too.
This is not shocking.



This.
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deddog said:

David_Puddy said:

Broncos said:

After following this very loosely, I've learned one thing. There are way too many women who want to set a very detrimental precedent for women going forward. What a bizarre hill to die on.


Totally agree......sad

There is a very high correlation between the women who want this, and the women who are ok with men in skirts in the restroom with their kids.

And no amount of facts will change their mind.


Yet again you severely underestimate the number of supposedly right wing women who are team Clancy.
The Banned
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Vessel said:

deddog said:

David_Puddy said:

Broncos said:

.After following this very loosely, I've learned one thing. There are way too many women who want to set a very detrimental precedent for women going forward. What a bizarre hill to die on.


Totally agree......sad

There is a very high correlation between the women who want this, and the women who are ok with men in skirts in the restroom with their kids.

And no amount of facts will change their mind.


Yet again you severely underestimate the number of supposedly right wing women who are team Clancy.

Most of the right wing supporters I've seen are the murder mystery junkies that think the husband did it
Martin Q. Blank
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Can you imaging being Patrick Clancy right now? Had to deal with his wife's insanity for years. Got her family support, worked from home to help, bought her nannies, counseling, etc. Only for her to strangle his 3 young children. Then has to testify about all of it. And half the internet thinks he did it.

I don't see how he hasn't gone all Michael Douglas in Falling Down.
Hardcore Greg
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The Banned said:

Vessel said:

deddog said:

David_Puddy said:

Broncos said:

.After following this very loosely, I've learned one thing. There are way too many women who want to set a very detrimental precedent for women going forward. What a bizarre hill to die on.


Totally agree......sad

There is a very high correlation between the women who want this, and the women who are ok with men in skirts in the restroom with their kids.

And no amount of facts will change their mind.


Yet again you severely underestimate the number of supposedly right wing women who are team Clancy.

Most of the right wing supporters I've seen are the murder mystery junkies that think the husband did it

This has been my exact experience and observation as well. Liberal feminists are sympathizing with her bc she was crazy and the conservative women who are "Team Clancy" actually think she was set up and the husband brilliantly pulled this off and framed her, with some believing he used some sort of high-tech way to implant his voice inside her head and convince her to kill them, knowing she was crazy and could be easily controlled.

One of those very rare instances where the right is actually out-crazy-ing the left.

Luckily, I do not think the majority of right leaning women think this way. But still disturbing and very concerning. I am thankful my wife passed this latest sanity check - she wants her to fry and her heart breaks for the children and Patrick Clancy.
Hardcore Greg
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Martin Q. Blank said:

Can you imaging being Patrick Clancy right now? Had to deal with his wife's insanity for years. Got her family support, worked from home to help, bought her nannies, counseling, etc. Only for her to strangle his 3 young children. Then has to testify about all of it. And half the internet thinks he did it.

I don't see how he hasn't gone all Michael Douglas in Falling Down.

He remarried a (hopefully sane) chick and now has a child with her I believe. Even though it was 3 years after his children were murdered, tons of women online used this as evidence against him in a "See! He doesn't love her and didn't stand by her side!" way. Some adopted the "Well that was sure quick and convenient, he clearly planned this out to get rid of his wife and kids so he could be with another woman!" angle. Heaven forbid a man who lived though an unthinkable nightmare try to have a fresh start in life, or ease the pain in a healthy way.

I never realized how many women range from crazy to flat out ret@rded until this whole disgusting and embarrassing display. Tens of millions of sociopaths roaming around. Every time you go to the grocery store, you will cross paths with at least one woman who is bat sh** crazy and felt for LC in some sort of way. Never forget that.

I truly believe giving them the right to vote wa sa major mistake. Even though many of them vote in a way that protects this republic and our culture. It's a net negative, by far.
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Quote:

I never realized how many women range from crazy to flat out ******ed until this whole display


Welcome to the party, pal.
Tony Franklins Other Shoe
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If this is a mistrial, I vote for house arrest until the next trial. Fill it with straight razors in every drawer, nooses hanging from rafters, and a car up on blocks in the enclosed garage. Let's see if this dirtbag can get it right a second time.

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AgLiving06
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Tony Franklins Other Shoe said:

If this is a mistrial, I vote for house arrest until the next trial. Fill it with straight razors in every drawer, nooses hanging from rafters, and a car up on blocks in the enclosed garage. Let's see if this dirtbag can get it right a second time.


Pretty sure goes back to the mental hospital.

This could be the best thing to happen to the prosecution. Their presentation was horrible.

Round 2 should give them room to tighten things up and do an actual good job.
deddog
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Vessel said:

deddog said:

David_Puddy said:

Broncos said:

After following this very loosely, I've learned one thing. There are way too many women who want to set a very detrimental precedent for women going forward. What a bizarre hill to die on.


Totally agree......sad

There is a very high correlation between the women who want this, and the women who are ok with men in skirts in the restroom with their kids.

And no amount of facts will change their mind.


Yet again you severely underestimate the number of supposedly right wing women who are team Clancy.

My wife was one of them except that when she saw the facts of the case she changed her mind because she's intelligent. that's the difference between right and left-wing women. when presented with evidence intelligent people change their mind.
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Disclaimer: Views expressed in this post reflect the opinions of Texags user bonfarr and are not to be accepted as facts or to be taken at face value.
YokelRidesAgain
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OK, I laughed.

I'm going to hell, but I laughed.
Tramp96
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YokelRidesAgain said:

OK, I laughed.

I'm going to hell, but I laughed.


We will be on the same train.
hph6203
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Broncos said:

After following this very loosely, I've learned one thing. There are way too many women who want to set a very detrimental precedent for women going forward. What a bizarre hill to die on.
Having so little expected accountability that you can get away with murdering your kids is a power even greater than the vote. They're trying to level up. No vote? No problem. Just find a postpartum woman to assassinate any politician they don't like.

"My hormonal IUD made me do it." As an excuse for any illegal act is a powerful defense if this is allowed.
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Tramp96 said:

YokelRidesAgain said:

OK, I laughed.

I'm going to hell, but I laughed.


We will be on the same train.


Choo choo, *****es!
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Queso1 said:

The powers that be (whoever they are) have done a masterful job of turning left and right, and races, against each other. I guess their final goal of turning men and women against each other has also been accomplished.

This is not a defense of women supporting this woman.
It's just a semi-objective view of where we stand. Woken didn't just wake up one day and say they were supportive of this case. It's been a prolonged effort.


The Devil appears to be really good at his job.
Thunderstruck xx
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JFC

hph6203
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0% chance she is, in fact, light.
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AgLawman
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hph6203 said:

0% chance she is, in fact, light.


Confirmed.
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moose07
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Would this be better than a hung jury?
Fenrir
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Same thing, mistrial.
 
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