Lindsay Clancy Trial

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Kenneth_2003 said:

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WARNING: The Lindsay Clancy trial heads for a mistrial as the jury remained deadlocked. But for Nellie Bowles of Free Press "The deeper idea being proposed here seems to be that moms should kind of be able to kill their kids. Like, if they're really, really stressed," she wrote. "In Canada, that's the law already. If a parent kills a kid under the age of 1, it's a maximum five-year sentence. We're now going to see a movement to bring that to the U.S., and also to expand it to older kids. Death cults will death cult."



They're is ZERO sane or rational justification for killing children. They're is no defending such despicable behavior. Anyone that tries to justify this has no place in civilized society.

I will not engage in debate over this. They're should be no debate. Anytime that thinks otherwise it's demonic evil.

And that reason right there is why I think we, as a nation, are still very much on track for a national divorce…

The division between two distinct ideologies is just too great to salvage…

There are more states out there that would likely have a similar outcome in this trial as MA did…because that's their prevailing demographics…
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Everything down to manslaugher was on the table for this trial. The people of MA apparently just believe she has zero culpability.
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This is probably the best thing to happen to the prosecution. They were downright awful. Had no theory and just kind of tried things.

They need to regroup, probably replace the prosecutors and actually develop a game plan.

It shouldn't be hard.
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AgLiving06 said:

This is probably the best thing to happen to the prosecution. They were downright awful. Had no theory and just kind of tried things.

They need to regroup, probably replace the prosecutors and actually develop a game plan.

It shouldn't be hard.


Funny…someone earlier in this thread said the prosecution wasn't to blame for getting blown out…
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AgLiving06 said:

This is probably the best thing to happen to the prosecution. They were downright awful. Had no theory and just kind of tried things.

They need to regroup, probably replace the prosecutors and actually develop a game plan.

It shouldn't be hard.



Question boils down to if there are any competent prosecutors in that office. The whole going with the girl boss prosecutor to win this case blew up in their face.
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Enrico Pallazzo said:

Props to the holdout. Stay strong

What do they call this, "jury (juror) nullification"? Juror saw that the defendant, who admitted to murdering her children, would be found not guilty due to the charge(s) filed by the prosecution, and recognized that a "do over" was needed.
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Fenrir said:

Everything down to manslaugher was on the table for this trial. The people of MA apparently just believe she has zero culpability.

Then I have bad news for a lot of folks here…they may not be able to get a conviction on this one in MA…

If that's the case, then the state may try to work out some sort of plea deal…

Maybe they still go after Murder-1 again, but that's a helluva gap to overcome when it has to be unanimous…

I'd be willing to bet the DA's office is having that exact conversation right now (or will after the holiday weekend)…

They get a second mistrial, and they may have to walk away entirely…if they want a "victory" here, "justice" might look quite a bit different than what many of us think is deserved…
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Which is why they offered up manslaughter. We all completely understand what's going on, you aren't spelling out anything that the people who started paying attention before yesterday aren't already aware of...

Reality is that MA appears to be full of ghoulish people that don't value the lives of children. Probably shouldn't be shocked but I guess I gave them more credit than they deserved.
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stetson said:

Enrico Pallazzo said:

Props to the holdout. Stay strong

What do they call this, "jury (juror) nullification"? Juror saw that the defendant, who admitted to murdering her children, would be found not guilty due to the charge(s) filed by the prosecution, and recognized that a "do over" was needed.

But will there be 12 of this 1 on the next jury?

I'd wager the odds are extremely low in MA…

That's what an 11-1 blowout says to me, anyway…
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FireAg said:

AgLiving06 said:

This is probably the best thing to happen to the prosecution. They were downright awful. Had no theory and just kind of tried things.

They need to regroup, probably replace the prosecutors and actually develop a game plan.

It shouldn't be hard.


Funny…someone earlier in this thread said the prosecution wasn't to blame for getting blown out…


The prosecution is not to blame. The morons who infest MA are.
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Fenrir said:

Everything down to manslaugher was on the table for this trial. The people of MA apparently just believe she has zero culpability.

THAT is insanity.

I don't see how we can live with these kind of people. I really don't.
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Reddington is a horrible smug shyster. He wants the hold- out juror attacked and made an example for future jurors. There is no way of knowing whether the juror was deceitful or if he failed to comply with the jury instructions without interviewing him.

"Reddington argued the juror has made statements "acknowledging doubt" but "refuses to apply the verdict" by the letter of the law.
"Clearly, we have a person who, under their oath, stood in front of you yesterday … under oath looked you in the eye and lied," the defense attorney said.
"That juror told you that he would be able to apply the law to the facts as you asked him," Reddington went on, revealing the juror's gender for the first time."---New York Post
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FireAg said:

stetson said:

Enrico Pallazzo said:

Props to the holdout. Stay strong

What do they call this, "jury (juror) nullification"? Juror saw that the defendant, who admitted to murdering her children, would be found not guilty due to the charge(s) filed by the prosecution, and recognized that a "do over" was needed.

But will there be 12 of this 1 on the next jury?

I'd wager the odds are extremely low in MA…

That's what an 11-1 blowout says to me, anyway…

Agreed. That state with MIT, Harvard and Umass, proving yet again, that education doesn't equate to intelligence.
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Fenrir said:

Which is why they offered up manslaughter. We all completely understand what's going on, you aren't spelling out anything that the people who started paying attention before yesterday aren't already aware of...

Reality is that MA appears to be full of ghoulish people that don't value the lives of children. Probably shouldn't be shocked but I guess I gave them more credit than they deserved.

And yet so many are completely shocked that only 1 juror in the State of MA think like they do…

This has been my point all along and why I was curious about how the jury was breaking and why yesterday…

There is a much bigger societal issue here…the elephant in the room…

As I stated before, we have become a society where emotional hysteria outweighs rational thought and facts…

See also people screaming for COVID jab mandates…

You know like abortion advocates screaming screaming "my body, my choice" out of one side of their mouth while screaming "you shouldn't have a choice about what you do with your body when it comes to the COVID jab" out of the other…

Or how about people screaming "follow the science" when it came to an unproven COIVD jab, who now scream "XY = XX if you cut of the ***** and add some hormone therapy"…

The hypocrisy of this society will be our downfall…
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deddog said:

Fenrir said:

Everything down to manslaugher was on the table for this trial. The people of MA apparently just believe she has zero culpability.

THAT is insanity.

I don't see how we can live with these kind of people. I really don't.


We can't. They are demonic. We desperately need a national divorce.

We used to debate the left over the tax rate and social spending. Now we fight them over the definition of a woman. It's over!
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Logos Stick said:

FireAg said:

AgLiving06 said:

This is probably the best thing to happen to the prosecution. They were downright awful. Had no theory and just kind of tried things.

They need to regroup, probably replace the prosecutors and actually develop a game plan.

It shouldn't be hard.


Funny…someone earlier in this thread said the prosecution wasn't to blame for getting blown out…


The prosecution is not to blame. The morons who infest MA are.

I see…and that makes my point even further…the DA is elected, right? Shouldn't the DA have a pulse of his constituents?

The DA clearly did not in this case…
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FireAg said:

Logos Stick said:

FireAg said:

AgLiving06 said:

This is probably the best thing to happen to the prosecution. They were downright awful. Had no theory and just kind of tried things.

They need to regroup, probably replace the prosecutors and actually develop a game plan.

It shouldn't be hard.


Funny…someone earlier in this thread said the prosecution wasn't to blame for getting blown out…


The prosecution is not to blame. The morons who infest MA are.

I see…and that makes my point even further…the DA is elected, right? Shouldn't the DA have a pulse of his constituents?

The DA clearly did not in this case…

I've finally caught on to your line of thinking. (i am an Aggie after all).
Maybe it wasn't the jury. Maybe it was an incompetent, half a$$ed prosecution.
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deddog said:

Fenrir said:

Everything down to manslaugher was on the table for this trial. The people of MA apparently just believe she has zero culpability.

THAT is insanity.

I don't see how we can live with these kind of people. I really don't.

At what point do we decide that…

…wait for it…

…we can't?
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deddog said:

FireAg said:

Logos Stick said:

FireAg said:

AgLiving06 said:

This is probably the best thing to happen to the prosecution. They were downright awful. Had no theory and just kind of tried things.

They need to regroup, probably replace the prosecutors and actually develop a game plan.

It shouldn't be hard.


Funny…someone earlier in this thread said the prosecution wasn't to blame for getting blown out…


The prosecution is not to blame. The morons who infest MA are.

I see…and that makes my point even further…the DA is elected, right? Shouldn't the DA have a pulse of his constituents?

The DA clearly did not in this case…

I've finally caught on to your line of thinking. (i am an Aggie after all).
Maybe it wasn't the jury. Maybe it was an incompetent, half a$$ed prosecution.

Elected by a population who wants their leaders to resemble themselves…

Ding ding ding…
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deddog said:

FireAg said:

stetson said:

Enrico Pallazzo said:

Props to the holdout. Stay strong

What do they call this, "jury (juror) nullification"? Juror saw that the defendant, who admitted to murdering her children, would be found not guilty due to the charge(s) filed by the prosecution, and recognized that a "do over" was needed.

But will there be 12 of this 1 on the next jury?

I'd wager the odds are extremely low in MA…

That's what an 11-1 blowout says to me, anyway…

Agreed. That state with MIT, Harvard and Umass, proving yet again, that education doesn't equate to intelligence.

Education or indoctrination?

We have gotten to the point where lunacy is now accepted as normal…and if you speak out against lunacy, you are labeled as being hateful and a bigot…
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stetson said:

Enrico Pallazzo said:

Props to the holdout. Stay strong

What do they call this, "jury (juror) nullification"? Juror saw that the defendant, who admitted to murdering her children, would be found not guilty due to the charge(s) filed by the prosecution, and recognized that a "do over" was needed.


They call it seeing a murderer for what she is and holding to your principles.
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stetson said:

Enrico Pallazzo said:

Props to the holdout. Stay strong

What do they call this, "jury (juror) nullification"? Juror saw that the defendant, who admitted to murdering her children, would be found not guilty due to the charge(s) filed by the prosecution, and recognized that a "do over" was needed.

No. Not even close.
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FireAg said:

AgLiving06 said:

This is probably the best thing to happen to the prosecution. They were downright awful. Had no theory and just kind of tried things.

They need to regroup, probably replace the prosecutors and actually develop a game plan.

It shouldn't be hard.


Funny…someone earlier in this thread said the prosecution wasn't to blame for getting blown out…


They were so bad, I wondered if they were throwing the case.

They had no theory of what happened or why. Basically just hoped they would convict her because of how awful the whole thing is.
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Some people are having a problem realizing that the prosecution didn't put on a good case and were hamstrung by a bad police investigation, and they ran up against a defense attorney who was more than capable of pouncing on every single ****up the state made.
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This scene seems especially prescient nowadays. The more things change, the more they stay the same.

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It's definitely a litmus test for marriage and dating.

What guy is going to date or marry or have kids with a woman who believes Lindsey Clancy was a cause to defend?

Toxic
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SpreadsheetAg said:

It's definitely a litmus test for marriage and dating.

What guy is going to date or marry or have kids with a woman who believes Lindsey Clancy was a cause to defend?

Toxic

They are out there, though…unfortunately…
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Where is the outrage for the children and their justice?

Left is silent.
I despise Marxists... the most repugnant people alive.
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Kenneth_2003 said:

hph6203 said:



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WARNING: The Lindsay Clancy trial heads for a mistrial as the jury remained deadlocked. But for Nellie Bowles of Free Press "The deeper idea being proposed here seems to be that moms should kind of be able to kill their kids. Like, if they're really, really stressed," she wrote. "In Canada, that's the law already. If a parent kills a kid under the age of 1, it's a maximum five-year sentence. We're now going to see a movement to bring that to the U.S., and also to expand it to older kids. Death cults will death cult."



There is ZERO sane or rational justification for killing children. There is no defending such despicable behavior. Anyone that tries to justify this has no place in civilized society.

I will not engage in debate over this. There should be no debate. Anyone that thinks otherwise is demonic evil.


The fact that 99% (I would say 100% but there are some actual demons living here) of our country does not agree with you shows how far down the drain our country is circling. It's absolutely disgusting
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OverSeas AG said:

Where is the outrage for the children and their justice?

Left is silent.

Why does this surprise you?

The Left sheds zero tears for Americans raped and murdered by illegals…
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OverSeas AG said:

Where is the outrage for the children and their justice?

Left is silent.


I think this is what disgusts me most about all this. 3 kids were killed brutally and in cold blood. Opinions can differ on whether this ***** should be locked up permanently forever in an insane asylum or women's prison but there shouldn't be a debate that she should be removed from society for life to give some measure of justice for three dead children.

Instead we have hordes of women who give two ****s for the kids and instead think this woman should be held up as a martyr.
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I wonder how much the pressure increased in the deliberation room with the d-bag defense attorney putting out a statement that Lindsay couldn't emotionally handle another trial.

This is kind of a weird thing here, the defense attorney kind of sending signals to a non-sequestered jury, and then outing a juror who was dissenting by his gender. Seems kind of, well, illegal or at least shouldnt happen in an honest case of jurisprudence.

Either way, mistrial is what it is and what was expected. I hope Lindsay gets a second chance at what she failed at before, and succeeds this time; prior to the re-trial.
 
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