Anyone else watching this trial. I don't think she should be on trial unless there's a reason why they have to go through the motions. Like Andrea Yates. Go straight to mental facility.

https://www.youtube.com/live/vHuqKNGPDCA?is=Zmc-6dEFM2N_IxZR

Even if she's found not guilty, she's going to a mental facility. I just don't see why there wasn't some type of plea deal. Waste of money.

MsDoubleD81 said:

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Even if she's found not guilty, she's going to a mental facility. I just don't see why there wasn't some type of plea deal. Waste of money.

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The proper terminology is "lawyer relief fund".

MsDoubleD81 said:

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Anyone else watching this trial. I don't think she should be on trial unless there's a reason why they have to go through the motions. Like Andrea Yates. Go straight to mental facility.

https://www.youtube.com/live/vHuqKNGPDCA?is=Zmc-6dEFM2N_IxZR

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While the husband larps about with a new wife.

Patrick Clancy, has remarried and started a new life in New York City. In April 2024, he wed Dr. Rachel Danis, a reproductive endocrinologist.

Maybe, just maybe, the prosecutor's expert witness says she is not insane. Maybe she is just evil.

BMX Bandit said:

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MsDoubleD81 said:

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Anyone else watching this trial. I don't think she should be on trial unless there's a reason why they have to go through the motions. Like Andrea Yates. Go straight to mental facility.

https://www.youtube.com/live/vHuqKNGPDCA?is=Zmc-6dEFM2N_IxZR

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It's a new thing where when a person pleads "not guilty", the government has to go through the motions to prove their guilt

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Ttttrrrrrruuuuummmmmmppppp!!

I'm really surprised this isn't being talked about more on here.

The defense attorney Reddington is a badass

Who is this person? What are the charges, etc?

FIDO*98* said:

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She needs to go to the death chamber. I've never understood why psycho killers are treated differently. Murder by reason of insanity should be a prosecutor's tool to accelerate carrying out an execution

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Our system is based on the common law necessities of mens rea and actus reus. You have to have the criminal mind and the criminal act.

Why do we have a penal system? It's one of five things: rehabilitation, deterrence (specific or general), punishment for the offender, isolation of the offender to protect society, and societal revenge.

I don't know which one is right, but with the exception of isolating her from society, none of these justify her prosecution. With regard to the isolation - a mental institution would be best.

I don't know what she did. But I do know that lots of people feel sorry for the criminally insane. At least until they have to live next to them. Then that feeling goes away. My point is that isolation from society is a benefit for society. And it saves the criminally insane from themselves, in the sense that they aren't allowed to do more harm to the most vulnerable.

MsDoubleD81 said:

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Even if she's found not guilty, she's going to a mental facility. I just don't see why there wasn't some type of plea deal. Waste of money.

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But in theory, she could get out of the mental facility in relatively short order right?

If the psychosis was caused by PPD, and that's now in the past, and she's recovered. They could deem her fit to be released at any point.

Andrea Yates apparently waives her right to be reviewed for release, but Lindsay could exercise it and get released whenever.

She deserves to be locked up somewhere for the rest of her life. I'm fine if it's a mental institute, but she lost the right to be free (imo).

I went to YouTube and watched a clip of today's trial. The medical examiner was testifying about the autopsy of one child and the defendant was crying and saying she can't do this. She's paralyzed from the waist down because she tried to kill herself in prison. This is one of the darkest things I've ever seen.

Context? Never heard of this story.

BMX Bandit said:

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MsDoubleD81 said:

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Anyone else watching this trial. I don't think she should be on trial unless there's a reason why they have to go through the motions. Like Andrea Yates. Go straight to mental facility.

https://www.youtube.com/live/vHuqKNGPDCA?is=Zmc-6dEFM2N_IxZR

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It's a new thing where when a person pleads "not guilty", the government has to go through the motions to prove their guilt

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Opioid addicted psychopaths who murder their 3 children are now considered victims. Not sure how we fix this.

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Queso1 said:

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I went to YouTube and watched a clip of today's trial. The medical examiner was testifying about the autopsy of one child and the defendant was crying and saying she can't do this. She's paralyzed from the waist down because she tried to kill herself in prison. This is one of the darkest things I've ever seen.

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She's paralyzed because she jumped/fell out of a window at their home after she killed her 3 kids.

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The key is to jump from more than 6 stories and onto concrete not water.

It's really curious that the husband got remarried to his new gf a year later, was posting reviews of hiking trails a few weeks after his 3 kids died, there was an email sent from his work computer when he was supposedly out running errands (the timeframe where the wife killed the kids), etc etc etc…

SquareOne07 said:

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I'm really surprised this isn't being talked about more on here.

The defense attorney Reddington is a badass

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No, he's not. He's an unprofessional, bumbling, abrasive old man who needs to retire. He was unaware that the woman he was cross-examining was his client's counselor!

MsDoubleD81 said:

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Even if she's found not guilty, she's going to a mental facility. I just don't see why there wasn't some type of plea deal. Waste of money.

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She can be out of a mental hospital in as little as six months!

redcrayon said:

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SquareOne07 said:

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I'm really surprised this isn't being talked about more on here.

The defense attorney Reddington is a badass

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No, he's not. He's an unprofessional, bumbling, abrasive old man who needs to retire. He was unaware that the woman he was cross-examining was his client's counselor!

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Welcome to being all alone in your opinion

redcrayon said:

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MsDoubleD81 said:

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Even if she's found not guilty, she's going to a mental facility. I just don't see why there wasn't some type of plea deal. Waste of money.

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She can be out of a mental hospital in as little as six months!

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Hopefully she will not have more children she can murder.

MsDoubleD81 said:

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Even if she's found not guilty, she's going to a mental facility. I just don't see why there wasn't some type of plea deal. Waste of money.

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Unfortunately this is not completely true. She could easily be out in a year. There is a yearly review process in that state for all committed persons. If a review panel thinks she's fit to be released, she could be released any given year.

And based on what we know about who occupies positions on these panels, she'll surely be out of an asylum within a decade and she'll kill again.

Woman are 55% more likely to receive a not guilty because of insanity then men.

Even women know B's be crazy.

I get why they are prosecuting the case because three kids are dead, but this is just straight up classic insanity.

She had been seeking help from psychiatry for a significant period of time after her last child was born and tried to admit herself into an inpatient facility. The nurse practitioner she was seeing had tried something like 10 different medications which ended up making her worse. The inpatient facility rejected her because of all the medications. The cross exam of her treating nurse practitioner was brutal.

The prosecutors are claiming that she faked trying to kill herself get away with it which seems a bit ridiculous considering she jumped out of a third story window and paralyzed herself. She coded and almost died in the hospital. The prosecution team is going with a very emotional presentation. Pretty much every lawyer I've seen who is following the case is criticizing the prosecution for their methodology and seem to believe that if there's ever a case for a real insanity defense it's this one.

redcrayon said:

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MsDoubleD81 said:

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Even if she's found not guilty, she's going to a mental facility. I just don't see why there wasn't some type of plea deal. Waste of money.

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She can be out of a mental hospital in as little as six months!

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It's nothing. It's a hockey season.