Gas is now under $3

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Iowafarmkid
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As a farmer I can say fuel prices suck. I thankfully booked 75% of my needs for fall three weeks ago at 4.80/gal for red diesel. Now the local suppliers are just over 6 for farm fuel and saying the terminals won't let them contract so now we can't contract more to lock a price in. However, corn prices are up around $1 a bushel more than last year and soybeans are $3/bushel more which way more than offsets the increase in fuel but still painful when you get the fuel bill. We also run a couple semis over the road and that's costing over $600 a day per truck to put fuel in and although fuel surcharges are going up, it's still tempting to just park the trucks right now. Fertilizer for fall was actually very similar priced to last fall for p and k. Nitrogen was a little higher and now moving up still. These farmers saying fuel is what's going to break them are either just ticked off or have other underlying issues. If the guy in that video is a beef producer, he has probably been doing well on that the last few years. The media never fully tells the story when it comes to ag.
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HTownAg98 said:

You can call this Trump's Razor, Biden's Razor, or whomever you what to pin it on: never use malice as a reason when stupidity is equally suitable.

Hanlon's Razor

"Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity."
Dungeon Crawler Carl
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Appreciate the answer. Sounds like you've got more runway to go before making tough decisions.

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However, corn prices are up around $1 a bushel more than last year and soybeans are $3/bushel more


so you're telling us the end consumer is going to be footing the bill in 2027.....
No Spin Ag
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Rocag said:

HTownAg98 said:

You can call this Trump's Razor, Biden's Razor, or whomever you what to pin it on: never use malice as a reason when stupidity is equally suitable.

Hanlon's Razor

"Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity."


Looks like Gump was right, "stupid is as stupid does."
There are in fact two things, science and opinion; the former begets knowledge, the later ignorance. Hippocrates
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Paid 2.52 EUR for diesel today in Berlin. Up from about 1.70 in the spring. Absolute insanity.

Fortunate that our vehicle gets close to 40 mpg but it still ain't fun.
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Dungeon Crawler Carl said:


And in other news from around the world......




Extended fuel shortages are the type of thing that get governments overthrown.

I think we might be in for a really interesting next few weeks.

Trump should declare victory and just walk away. Relieve the pressure and let markets heal themselves.




walking away is no longer an option. if the US stops escorting SoH transits we go back to choked off tanker flows again and this problem gets worse
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Iowafarmkid
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Most of the run up in price is from a lower than expected crop in the Midwest from to much rain along with El Niño causing Europe's and South America to be abnormally dry. I would say these prices finally have row crop farmers back to break even or now profitable. The last few years have been break even or less. Even though the media and companies may use grain prices going up as an excuse for increased food prices, it would be a minuscule amount compared to increased transportation costs.
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AxelFoley85 said:



The refinery wasn't damaged other than a pump that got flooded. It was knocked offline due to a power outage resulting from severe weather, which of course tripped the safety systems.

It takes time to restart a refinery, but they're working on it.
"If you will not fight for right when you can easily win without blood shed; if you will not fight when your victory is sure and not too costly; you may come to the moment when you will have to fight with all the odds against you and only a precarious chance of survival. There may even be a worse case. You may have to fight when there is no hope of victory, because it is better to perish than to live as slaves." - Sir Winston Churchill
DonHenley
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So.... if we are drilling for all this crude in the US and have all this Venezuela oil....why is he US still so dependent on Middle East oil? Do we not have enough refineries to make all this crude oil usable? Explain to me like I'm five...
No Spin Ag
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DonHenley said:

So.... if we are drilling for all this crude in the US and have all this Venezuela oil....why is he US still so dependent on Middle East oil? Do we not have enough refineries to make all this crude oil usable? Explain to me like I'm five...


This.

"Drill baby drill" was the mantra that if ever came true we'd have the cheapest prices of gas ever, yet here we are.

Feel free to use memes or pictures too.
There are in fact two things, science and opinion; the former begets knowledge, the later ignorance. Hippocrates
Bull Meachem
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DonHenley said:

So.... if we are drilling for all this crude in the US and have all this Venezuela oil....why is he US still so dependent on Middle East oil? Do we not have enough refineries to make all this crude oil usable? Explain to me like I'm five...

We aren't dependent on Middle Eastern oil. But when prices go up globaly, American producers will sell to the highest bidder they can get, which isn't always within the U.S.
AxelFoley85
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Seeing another rate hike expected in October now too.
austinAG90
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Should be fined for being down during basically a national emergency regarding diesel. Of course our wonderful group of leaders over the last few decades have been shutting down capacity, so really just a matter of time. Get those battery powered tractors out there and harvest that corn. Deer season is coming on.
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What's wrong? Isn't this a small price to pay for Iran to have a nuclear weapon?


LOL
austinAG90
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Considering almost every major football stadium will be full this weekend, seems only football hating liberals are complaining of fuel prices. Sure more will feel the increase in the spring when growing season starts back up and our landscapers will need to increase prices due to fuel.
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Charpie said:

What's wrong? Isn't this a small price to pay for Iran to have a nuclear weapon?


LOL


Can we really put a price on feels?

Turns out yes, and it's approaching 6 bucks.
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BrazosDog02 said:

Charpie said:

What's wrong? Isn't this a small price to pay for Iran to have a nuclear weapon?


LOL


Can we really put a price on feels?

Turns out yes, and it's approaching 6 bucks.

I saw something online yesterday that was hilarious.

"I went and bought gas yesterday. I'm OK with IRAN having a nuclear weapon."
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filled up at $3.79 this morning

Trump is rolling the dice for the midterms

maybe it won't be all about the economy
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Charpie said:

BrazosDog02 said:

Charpie said:

What's wrong? Isn't this a small price to pay for Iran to have a nuclear weapon?


LOL


Can we really put a price on feels?

Turns out yes, and it's approaching 6 bucks.

I saw something online yesterday that was hilarious.

"I went and bought gas yesterday. I'm OK with IRAN having a nuclear weapon."



We all were. It was never and issue that needing fixing. Trump is the epitome of "If it ain't broke, fix it until it is."
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ErnestEndeavor
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Lowest close of WTI since 9/10
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3.99 low grade and 5.86 diesel, Metro area.

Bend not break on passing $4 it seems like for last week or so. Bending realllllly hard though....
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Is the supply issue that far ahead of falling demand or is this a race to see which has the bigger impact? If demand collapses over the next 2 weeks will prices hold steady or even drop?
Hoyt Ag
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$6.59 in NW Colorado today. So much winning.
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Regular gas jumped 30 in Kansas City yesterday to $4.29 a gallon. Diesel holding steady at $5.99.
Aust Ag
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Network news is in love with the gas price stories. I have that thing on Direct TV that allows me to see four screens at once and it seems like every day the same news channels are doing a gas price story.

They are doing a bang up job of getting people riled up. That's for sure.
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Aust Ag said:

Network news is in love with the gas price stories. I have that thing on Direct TV that allows me to see four screens at once and it seems like every day the same news channels are doing a gas price story.

They are doing a bang up job of getting people riled up. That's for sure.

Or...and follow me here....people are seeing the gas station signs with the inordinately high gas prices on them....literally in lights.


MSM is a dying medium, I doubt it has much sway on this issue. Definitely not as much as literal lit up signs with the prices on it.
Old McDonald
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have the diesel truck drivers tried not buying starbucks or new iphones?
Rapier108
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Aust Ag said:

Network news is in love with the gas price stories. I have that thing on Direct TV that allows me to see four screens at once and it seems like every day the same news channels are doing a gas price story.

They are doing a bang up job of getting people riled up. That's for sure.

And when Biden caused gas prices to go sky high, never a peep about it.

The media, including all local media, is beyond the pale with their agenda.
"If you will not fight for right when you can easily win without blood shed; if you will not fight when your victory is sure and not too costly; you may come to the moment when you will have to fight with all the odds against you and only a precarious chance of survival. There may even be a worse case. You may have to fight when there is no hope of victory, because it is better to perish than to live as slaves." - Sir Winston Churchill
FlyRod
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Aust Ag said:

Network news is in love with the gas price stories. I have that thing on Direct TV that allows me to see four screens at once and it seems like every day the same news channels are doing a gas price story.

They are doing a bang up job of getting people riled up. That's for sure.


Always have been. The lines and shortages in the 1970s were front page news and on tv non stop. This is absolutely not a new media turn.
Captain Winky
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Do you think people are only riled up about paying $4 for gas or $8 for diesel because the news told them to be?
Rapier108
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Captain Winky said:

Do you think people are only riled up about paying $4 for gas or $8 for diesel because the news told them to be?

No one said that.

The media loves to report on high gas prices when a Republican is in office, and ignore it when a Democrat is.

I can remember they were blaming the prices in 2008 all on Bush, then switched to blaming him for the subprime mortgage crash, which was actually 100% on the Democrats and something Bush had tried to fix but they blocked him from doing so.
"If you will not fight for right when you can easily win without blood shed; if you will not fight when your victory is sure and not too costly; you may come to the moment when you will have to fight with all the odds against you and only a precarious chance of survival. There may even be a worse case. You may have to fight when there is no hope of victory, because it is better to perish than to live as slaves." - Sir Winston Churchill
EFR
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October delivery blendstock solidly over $3.50 now, in the near future will be wishing for $4 gas.
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Similar to in the past reporting on homeless during Republic admins. It doesn't matter now, it's so out of control and in Dem cities that they won't report. There is bias. But gas prices are high.
 
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