Sick with Covid, too much time on my hands, so I wrote a 5-episode treatment for how Kenobi could have gone.

1. Basically the same, but no Reva. We see Kenobi in hiding, an oppressive empire in charge. Leia is kidnapped by unknown mercenaries to pull Kenobi out. Episode ends with us learning it's Qi'Ra from Solo behind the kidnapping

2. Same start, but instead of Reva behind the kidnapping, it's Qi'Ra from Solo. She's trying to get to Kenobi for Maul (who refuses to believe Kenobi is dead unless he sees it with his own eyes). Meanwhile, empire, inquisitors, and Vader are searching for Kenobi AND Maul. Both are enemies of the state. To rescue Leia, Kenobi is forced to do something he hasn't done in a long time - use the force in a big way, full-on kickass Jedi Knight style. He successfully rescues Leia and sends her home, but his use of the force trigger's Vader's awareness of his old master and sparks an imperial hunt for Kenobi led by Vader personally. Kenobi, meanwhile, begins pursuit of Qi'Ra because he needs to find out if the twins are in danger.

3. Qi'Ra lures Kenobi to maul. It's a trap. But Vader crashes the party. We get an awesome Kenobi and Maul vs Vader fight that ends in Maul fleeing and abandoning Qi'Ra with Kenobi, who flee together with Vader and the empire hot on their heels

4. Episode feels like the terminator. High intensity. Kenobi and Qi'Ra learning to work together with unstoppable Vader on their heels. Starts to feel like a master-Padawan relationship. Street pursuits, space pursuits - something that channels the asteroid chase. The entire EMPIRE is after them. They barely escape. We learn that ONLY QI'RA has any awareness of the twins (she didn't tell Maul, because "information is power" in the underworld). Maybe she found something on the black market or scrapping etc, somehow she got some clues. Kenobi convinces her to let the twins be, maybe even revealing they are Vader's children and the only hope of ending this imperial hell.

5. Kenobi realizes Vader and Maul's pursuit will be relentless so long as they think he lives. He convinces Qi'Ra to help him fake his death. They arrange another 3-way battle where Kenobi seemingly dies. Vader and Maul, from different vantage points (because they are enemies, not partners) are satisfied and give up pursuit of Kenobi. Kenobi returns to Tatooine, the twins are safe again, and Qi'Ra begins to question if serving Maul is the best idea. Though her time with Kenobi was short and she knows she won't see him again, she ends the show feeling like Kenobi's padawan, and Kenobi has renewed faith in his ability to train Jedi.


*If you have to make Leia older to make the timelines work (probably), then make Leia older.

Sebastian Shaw is a legendary British actor who put in 77 years of work. It would be pretty ****ty to remove his entire contribution to a movie just to cram Hayden's old face in there.

The guy who played Kitster Banai never acted again, and his biggest contribution to Star Wars is failing miserably to do a high five with Wald.



Continuity isn't worth disrespecting an absolute legend.

Unfortunately it wouldn't work with canon established in Rebels (Maul), but a lot of that is pretty good.

Thanks!

I was trying to remember if Maul knew Kenobi was alive in Rebels, or if he was surprised by a vision of Kenobi being alive from the Jedi artifact.

Well, maybe the show ends with Maul not believing his eyes and suspecting Kenobi still lives, then

Spoilers for Rebels, but looks like Mail is surprised to learn Kenobi lives, so my outline just might line up

Considering it takes Old Man Kenobi about 6 seconds to kill Maul, I feel like Vader vs. Maul in a lightsaber fight would be the mental effort of Vader snapping his metal legs in half and then gutting his flopping top half like a fish.

Hope we all do.

I've been wishing for this since TROS, that something in Star Wars is so unbelievably awesome that everyone is in agreement for once.

Last episode was a step in that direction, at least. Closest we've come to this is probably the Mando S2 finale.

Brian Earl Spilner said:

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Speaking of, they pretty much handwaved away Obi-Wan's burns huh? That bacta worked awful quick and he's seemingly back at 100%.

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How long does bacta usually take to heal burns?

Apparently about 15 minutes.

Brian Earl Spilner said:

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Apparently about 15 minutes.

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Or like four episodes of a show where the main character wears a helmet so he barely even needs to heal cosmetically perfect

Brian Earl Spilner said:

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Apparently about 15 minutes.

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And LUke was in it for what, 45 seconds to heal up from a Wampa mauling and hypothermia? 15 minutes is an eternity by comparison!

It's funny how you'll go out of your way to defend the sequels and this series, but never let me forget how terrible the prequels are.

Very selective of you.

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Yes, I would prefer they remain unchanged. Yes, I would prefer actors who I grew up watching in films I love to remain in the films I love. Is that unreasonable? Do you not understand people love the originals the way you love Hayden Christensen?

As for confusion, people can use their brains.

Maybe I just agree with George Lucas circa 1988

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"People who alter or destroy works of art and our cultural heritage for profit or as an exercise of power are barbarians," he said. "[And] if the laws of the United States continue to condone this behavior, history will surely classify us as a barbaric society."
Lucas even took a thinly veiled shot at Turner directly, saying, "There is nothing to stop American films, records, books, and paintings from being sold to a foreign entity or an egocentric gangster who would change our cultural heritage to suit his personal taste."
Lucas also had a prescient warning about the growing dangers of digital effects that could completely alter the content of classic movies: "[More] advanced technology will be able to replace actors with 'fresher faces,' or alter dialogue and change the movement of the actor's lips to match."

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https://www.mentalfloss.com/article/500941/time-george-lucas-warned-congress-about-dangers-altering-classic-movies

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I can only surmise you are trolling, and if you are, that is totally fine. I don't care.

But that statement by Lucas might be the most incredibly ironic and hypocritical statement I've ever seen. This is real? I'm being pranked, yes?

He literally did everything in that statement he said was barbaric.

On the surface it's looks hypocritical, but as that article says, he meant when art is changed without the original author's consent. Lucas changed his own films which isn't quite the same. (Still kinda funny though.)

You'll get no argument from anyone that every change in ANH was for the worse (except the cooler looking DS explosion), but given the choice, I'd never go back to the original version of ESB. Cloud City looks so much cooler in the SE's, rather than just a long series of windowless corridors. As well as having Ian McDiarmid as the Emperor of course.

That said, the ONE scene I prefer in the original is Vader's original "Bring my shuttle" when he's walking back after the duel with Luke. There is no reason to alter that, you can hear the anger in his voice. Still can't understand changing that one to a much weaker line.

Also, not a fan of Yub Nub. Doesn't feel fitting for the final scene of a huge saga. Love the Celebration music in the SE, seeing Coruscant, etc.

A really cool version:

You think Luke will be a main focus as was the original intent?

Brian Earl Spilner said:

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I think you could easily take out eps 2-3 and have Leia's kidnappers take her straight to Fortress Inquisitorious.

Pretty much all of episodes 2-4 felt a bit like running in place. Repeated story beats and not much forward progress.

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I wonder if the goal of those episodes was to show Obi-Wan essentially knocking the rust off?

Supposedly the reason for the rewrites was because it was too close to the Mando with the whole protector of a child angle. I think most people were assuming that was with Luke, but I suppose it could've been Leia. But they didn't really change that aspect of it very much if so.

The premise of Obi Wan saving Leia isn't a problem. In fact, it's about the only thing serious enough that could get him off world. While this series isn't all it's cracked up to be. I can't see how six episodes of Ben cooling off in his hobo cave looking at Luke from a distance would be a lot better.

The image of Luke at the end of part 5 is nothing more than a tool. He drives the next part of the action but does not take part in it.