Next Disney+ series: Vader plans Empire Day party, debates whether or not to invite Owen and Beru, decides not to

TCTTS said:

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helloimustbegoing said:

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But we have no idea how common a name Skywalker is - on Tatooine or anywhere in the galaxy.

If there's a great actor named Fred Smith in Hollywood and 10 years later another good actor named George Smith, our first thought isn't "they're related."

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In the *same* household, though? I'm just saying, Shmi was probably relatively well known too, and to risk ANY talk at all of there suddenly being a new Skywalker on the farm is pretty reckless, after one was tragically murdered by Tusken raiders, and the other went on to be a famous Jedi war hero.

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Anakin lived in the slave quarters of MOS ESPA

Luke lived on a moisture farm out past the Jundland Wastes near Tosche Station and Anchorhead.

They are easily 160 km apart, as you would know, if you hadn't blown off Outer Rim Geography to go and waste time with your friends.

You must really be feeling embarrassed right now.

Touche.

Or should I say... Tosche.

There were a sh*t ton of people at that pod race. Pretty massive crowd. And a human kid winning the whole damn thing would have been a big deal. Jedi in the area would have been news as well. The same kid who inexplicably won the big-deal pod race, leaving with the Jedi the very next day, would have FOR SURE been talked about, and the name "Skywalker" no doubt would have gained som notoriety in that part of Tatooine. That "same* Skywalker - Shmi's kid who won the pod race/left with the Jedi - becoming a war hero a decade+ later *also* would have likely been a thing. Especially after people learned that Shmi had been murdered.

I'm just saying, the name "Skywalker" was already out there, likely carried some weight, and was for sure *already* associated with Owen & Beru. To mysteriously add ANOTHER Skywalker to that mix was ill-advised at best.

Then again, the name "Luke Lars" is so bad, maybe Owen, Beru, and Obi-Wan decided it was worth the risk.

It's almost like Ol' George didn't think all this through when he made the prequels.

And BTW, Anakin did visit the Lars moisture farm in Episode II. He knows it as the place his only relatives live. Absolutely horrific hiding place, just as it was in 2005.

My theory for how Luke and Obi Wan remained anonymous is that 1) Tatooine was so remote and such a poor backwater that the Empire saw no reason to visit and 2) Vader hated his previous life on the planet (or felt traumatized) and looked for any excuse not to return. Of course, I'm not up on all the comics lore so this may be answered somewhere in canon.

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It's almost like Ol' George didn't think all this through when he made the prequels.

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He thought through the prequels a hell of a lot more than anyone did in the sequels, I can tell you that right now.

I think so much of the name deal makes sense if you look at it in the lens of that initial release in 1977, or even 1980/1983 for that matter.

Ben Kenobi works just fine as a name because we see a huge and vast Tatooine in A New Hope. It's similar to that planet in Rogue One. People are spread way the F out and he is a hermit. That's it. Not a huge circle that he is likely interacting with.

Same goes for Luke Skywalker.

Now, once you bring in all of the backstory and filler stuff from new material in this new show, comics, etc., then things get more hairy to explain.

Part of the wonder and amazement of that original Star Wars is how the story was built up with both what was said and by what was left unsaid.

Brian Earl Spilner said:

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It's almost like Ol' George didn't think all this through when he made the prequels.

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He thought through the prequels a hell of a lot more than anyone did in the sequels, I can tell you that right now.

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The low bars you will set for the prequels to clear are quite amazing

TCTTS said:

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There were a sh*t ton of people at that pod race. Pretty massive crowd. And a human kid winning the whole damn thing would have been a big deal. Jedi in the area would have been news as well. The same kid who inexplicably won the big-deal pod race, leaving with the Jedi the very next day, would have FOR SURE been talked about, and the name "Skywalker" no doubt would have gained som notoriety in that part of Tatooine. That "same* Skywalker - Shmi's kid who won the pod race/left with the Jedi - becoming a war hero a decade+ later *also* would have likely been a thing. Especially after people learned that Shmi had been murdered.

I'm just saying, the name "Skywalker" was already out there, likely carried some weight, and was for sure *already* associated with Owen & Beru. To mysteriously add ANOTHER Skywalker to that mix was ill-advised at best.

Then again, the name "Luke Lars" is so bad, maybe Owen, Beru, and Obi-Wan decided it was worth the risk.

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TC: Claims to have no time to pitch a Star Wars script, but time enough to debate attendance numbers at the Boonta Eve Classic in 32 BBY.

Now, let me throw my 2 cents in about the nerd debate that's been going on...

Anakin was a slave that won a big pod race...then disappeared. There might have been talk about it, and him, but probably after a few years of him never being in another race and just disappearing, it probably became a legend. Even his name could have been forgotten by many. It's not like anyone knew he left with a Jedi since Qui-Gon kept his identity secret.

It wasn't until many years later that Anakin went back to find his mom, and then he only talked to Watto. You think Watto went around telling people he used to own a slave that became a Jedi? The Hutts might have whacked him on the spot if they thought him knowing one could bring Jedi snooping around their business. Assuming he lived, he probably never cared about the name Skywalker again, until Jabba's barge blew up.

Move on to Anakin going to find the Lars home. Shmi became a Lars, and I doubt anyone cared about a slave enough to know what her last name was. Then we get, what, maybe 4 or 5 more years between Anakin's first visit and when Obi-Wan brings Luke back? So now we're looking at like 15 years since little Ani won a single pod race? Unless you are one of the true hardcore fans, can you name who won Daytona 500 fifteen years ago?

Now, how often do we think Owen takes Luke into town, knowing that anyone asking questions could be bad news? Anakin clearly didn't give 2 sh-ts about the Lars and probably never gave a 2nd thought to them until he's shooting down Leia's ship over Tatooine. Maybe some occasional chatter around Toshe station about a little boy named Skywalker on the Lars farm..."hey wasn't there a Skywalker that won Boonta Eve, once?" I doubt many travelers coming and going from Tatooine have enough small chatter around Imperial Outposts in the Galaxy for the name Skywalker to find it's way to Vader's helmet's audio receivers.

Ag Since 83 said:

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It's almost like Ol' George didn't think all this through when he made the prequels.

And BTW, Anakin did visit the Lars moisture farm in Episode II. He knows it as the place his only relatives live. Absolutely horrific hiding place, just as it was in 2005.

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am I taking crazy pills? Ol' Georgie bear answered this succinctly and efficiently already as to why Vader wouldn't go to Tatooine:

I mean the real debate here is how Vader never figured out Luke Skywalker was his son between ANH and ESB, when he was the famous pilot who destroy the X-Wing and his name was Luke Skywalker. Not to mention the whole "the force is strong with this one" thing.

You'd think that would have clued him in.

redline248 said:

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So now we're looking at like 15 years since little Ani won a single pod race? Unless you are one of the true hardcore fans, can you name who won Daytona 500 fifteen years ago?

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I would like to think I'd remember if a chimpanzee or some other lower life form won the Daytona 500 fifteen years ago.

LPHA said:

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redline248 said:

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So now we're looking at like 15 years since little Ani won a single pod race? Unless you are one of the true hardcore fans, can you name who won Daytona 500 fifteen years ago?

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I would like to think I'd remember if a chimpanzee or some other lower life form won the Daytona 500 fifteen years ago.

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Easy there kid.

Didn't they say that humans don't do pod racing because it's too fast for them to comprehend or some **** like that?

LPHA said:

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Didn't they say that humans don't do pod racing because it's too fast for them to comprehend or some **** like that?

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I think because the size of the pod, he was the only kid with fast enough reflexes.

Because of this guy can do it, seems like a lot of people could do it