gougler08 said:
So how did Reva magically know where the tunnel would lead?
It's an escape route. You escape a planet at the space port
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It's an escape route. You escape a planet at the space port
TCTTS said:
All this is to say, Andor might be my last hope with this stuff. .
Disney execs be like
DallasTeleAg said:
I just feel like episode 3 is objectively bad, and it's blowing my mind that people actually disagree. But, I guess there are plenty of people who like terrible movies and shows, seeing how much of that crap exists...
It blows my mind that folks find this OBJECTIVELY bad in what is a SUBJECTIVE medium
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So Mando is going to show up next episode and give us two more episodes of Mandalorian season 2.5, right?TCTTS said:
This show is bad, but how are you guys forgetting what we JUST watched a few short months ago? The Book of Boba Fett is undoubtedly worse than this. Granted, this is certainly more of a disappointment, due to sky-high expectations, but as bad as it's been so far, it's no BOBF.
Sorry for quoting you twice, but I completely agree with this. In fact, if Obi-Wan doesn't shape up, I might not even wait for Andor. I'm close to being in that mindset of not watching a show until it's over and I hear it's good.TCTTS said:
All this is to say, Andor might be my last hope with this stuff. It's the only thing that actually looks like it's made for adults (or at least not for 8-year-olds), feels like they're shooting in actual, real-world locations, and the Tony Gilroy of it all is already a proven winner. But man, if that fails, I'm really going to be on the fence. Because, as of late, between BOBF, Moon Knight, this, and that terrible She-Hulk trailer, I'm really starting to question whether Disney+ is even for me anymore.
Boy did I love episode 3! Vader was giving ZERO F's and it was amazing to just see him walking down a street choking folks and snapping necks like a BAMF!
And I had the kids rewind it right away….that was definitely Pedro Pascal offering his voice as the first stormtrooper to approach the truck at the security check point. Don't even need to check IMDB for that one.
And this scene between Obiwan and Vader had to happen.
Kenobi has definitely closed himself off from the force that was already established in E2 and it became pretty clear all Kenobi cared about was saving Leia.
Vader still wants Obiwan to suffer. He's pissed and knows he'll get another shot…dragging him through the fire was almost hard to watch hell he was yelling nearly at the same volume and pitch as Anikan did during RofS.
And this is DEFINITELY building up a Quigon (and possibly Yoda that was suggested earlier) training episode.
And yes even Reva was better in this episode and seeing the dialogue between 5th brother and 3rd sister was pretty dang interesting now that Vader is involved.
Honestly I expect episode 4 to actually have some flashbacks and finally get Quigon after Kenobi officially got whipped.
And I had the kids rewind it right away….that was definitely Pedro Pascal offering his voice as the first stormtrooper to approach the truck at the security check point. Don't even need to check IMDB for that one.
And this scene between Obiwan and Vader had to happen.
Kenobi has definitely closed himself off from the force that was already established in E2 and it became pretty clear all Kenobi cared about was saving Leia.
Vader still wants Obiwan to suffer. He's pissed and knows he'll get another shot…dragging him through the fire was almost hard to watch hell he was yelling nearly at the same volume and pitch as Anikan did during RofS.
And this is DEFINITELY building up a Quigon (and possibly Yoda that was suggested earlier) training episode.
And yes even Reva was better in this episode and seeing the dialogue between 5th brother and 3rd sister was pretty dang interesting now that Vader is involved.
Honestly I expect episode 4 to actually have some flashbacks and finally get Quigon after Kenobi officially got whipped.
You have to figure all of their hours and hours of fighting each other means Obi-Wan knows Anakin's weaknesses as a fighter. Although if it's having the high ground again, I might have to make like an Organa and bail.
If he could harness the Force enough to regain his agility with the flips and the really rapid movement, that would seem like you could really take it to Vader because of his limited mobility and maneuverability in the suit. We have to assume Vader has fought some other hunted Jedi between ROTS and now, but have any of them been a real test? Does he train vs. the Inquisitors, or is he above that?
What if you shot a miniature ion cannon at Vader and short-circuited his suit?
Or what if Obi-Wan decides the only way to defeat him is to harness the darkness within himself - all of that fear of his own failure and anger at Anakin for falling - and thrash the **** out of him, then pull back from the brink like Luke does in ROTJ when he has Vader beaten?
I can't imagine any scenario where Vader learns about his children in this series, even a hint. And Reva either redeems herself via sacrifice, or goes the Captain Needa route and tries to apologize to Vader for her failure in person, then gets all choked up about it.
If he could harness the Force enough to regain his agility with the flips and the really rapid movement, that would seem like you could really take it to Vader because of his limited mobility and maneuverability in the suit. We have to assume Vader has fought some other hunted Jedi between ROTS and now, but have any of them been a real test? Does he train vs. the Inquisitors, or is he above that?
What if you shot a miniature ion cannon at Vader and short-circuited his suit?
Or what if Obi-Wan decides the only way to defeat him is to harness the darkness within himself - all of that fear of his own failure and anger at Anakin for falling - and thrash the **** out of him, then pull back from the brink like Luke does in ROTJ when he has Vader beaten?
I can't imagine any scenario where Vader learns about his children in this series, even a hint. And Reva either redeems herself via sacrifice, or goes the Captain Needa route and tries to apologize to Vader for her failure in person, then gets all choked up about it.
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Let's go ahead and take nominations for what to dub over the forthcoming Obi-Wan training montage.
Choice 1: You're the Best Around
Choice 2: Gonna Fly Now
Choice 3: Eye of the Tiger from the re-edited Rocky IV
Choice 4: I am a Real American (Use the Force, brother!)
Choice 5: You Got the Touch (Arise, Kenobius Prime)
Choice 6: Theme from the A-Team
Choice 1: You're the Best Around
Choice 2: Gonna Fly Now
Choice 3: Eye of the Tiger from the re-edited Rocky IV
Choice 4: I am a Real American (Use the Force, brother!)
Choice 5: You Got the Touch (Arise, Kenobius Prime)
Choice 6: Theme from the A-Team
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Choice 7: "SEAGULLS (Stop It Now)"
What the hell is that?!
Chipotlemonger said:
What the hell is that?!
Since it's the Obi Wan Kenobi thread....
Only the greatest masterpiece of our timeChipotlemonger said:
What the hell is that?!
awall11 said:
As disappointed as I've been with this show, I still can't get over the Le Petomane Toll Booth checkpoint... A universe with lightspeed space travel. Can't go around a laser gate...
Was looking for someone to make this comment. I rolled my eyes so hard during that scene. JUST GO AROUND THE SIDE.
Same thought when Vader just shrugs his shoulders and walks away from Obi-Wan when he could have just walked around the fire to get him.
This show sucks.
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FJB, FJB, FJB, etc
FJB, FJB, FJB, etc
There is only one true montage song to use for Jedi training
In before any number of posters come along to inform you that filmmaking is an objective task with obvious checkmarks that must be met, or else the work is entirely the worst thing ever made. All while ignoring true garbage film.Saxsoon said:DallasTeleAg said:
I just feel like episode 3 is objectively bad, and it's blowing my mind that people actually disagree. But, I guess there are plenty of people who like terrible movies and shows, seeing how much of that crap exists...
It blows my mind that folks find this OBJECTIVELY bad in what is a SUBJECTIVE medium.
Lol, those montages are pretty good. Certainly the best use of obi wan film cuts going forward.
We need an Entertainment Board database of terms that nobody ever uses right in reviewing shows/movies.Saxsoon said:DallasTeleAg said:
I just feel like episode 3 is objectively bad, and it's blowing my mind that people actually disagree. But, I guess there are plenty of people who like terrible movies and shows, seeing how much of that crap exists...
It blows my mind that folks find this OBJECTIVELY bad in what is a SUBJECTIVE medium
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pretty good article about the duel on IO9 about how Vader's actions were quintessential Anakin from the prequels, demanding to show he's more powerful than others give him credit for, etc. and brings up its similarities to Charles Soule's Darth Vader #13 where Vader is re-imagining the Mustafar duel, except he wins and it's Obi-Wan that burns.
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awall11 said:
As disappointed as I've been with this show, I still can't get over the Le Petomane Toll Booth checkpoint... A universe with lightspeed space travel. Can't go around a laser gate...
Somebody has to go back and get a s***load of credits!
Really, even after the suit comes on, the flair for the dramatic never stops. Setting dinner in ESB, riding the top of his TIE in Rebels, shutting off his suit to make his big entrance in Rogue One. He just looks a bit more imposing while doing it.
bluefire579 said:
Really, even after the suit comes on, the flair for the dramatic never stops. Setting dinner in ESB, riding the top of his TIE in Rebels, shutting off his suit to make his big entrance in Rogue One. He just looks a bit more imposing while doing it.
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Vader is a drama queen.
In this video, one of them brings up a great point I don't think had been raised in this thread yet:BarKeep_03 said:
Kenobi's main focus has been protecting Luke all these years. Logic would dictate that he keeps himself in condition to actually protect Luke. What if Vader finds Luke? Or someone else?
Instead we get this sad sack of crap who for some reason has no idea how to use a lightsaber or the Force anymore. One can still be guilt ridden and saddened but still at least trying to keep their skills in shape so they can fulfill their promise of protecting Luke.
chase128 said:BarKeep_03 said:
Kenobi's main focus has been protecting Luke all these years. Logic would dictate that he keeps himself in condition to actually protect Luke. What if Vader finds Luke? Or someone else?
Instead we get this sad sack of crap who for some reason has no idea how to use a lightsaber or the Force anymore. One can still be guilt ridden and saddened but still at least trying to keep their skills in shape so they can fulfill their promise of protecting Luke.
That has been my biggest gripe about Ben not being prepared for a fight.
He will get there. (I hope.)
Well to counterpoint what you're saying, Obi-Wan doesn't know that there is a Vader until the events of the series. So thinking he'll have to fight a Sith Lord who used to be his apprentice isn't on his radar.
In ROTS onboard Tantive V, Yoda's command is: "Hidden safe the children must be kept." and Obi-Wan replies. "We must take them somewhere the Sith will not sense their presence."
The long-standing assumption is that the Empire has no presence on Alderaan and it has a big enough population that nobody would notice she's got the Force, especially with no one to train her.
The same assumption, based on nothing but EU stuff, is that Yoda picks Dagobah because its so teeming with life but uninhabited that the Empire wouldn't look there.
And Tatooine is on the Outer Rim lawless.
Obi-Wan clearly has the combat skills to still whip a bunch of stormtroopers as we have seen a few times in the show. and the random bounty hunter gang, even without his saber or the Force. I suspect he could "reactivate' the Force and probably defeat any of the Inquisitors if it came down to it. Ditto any but the very best bounty hunters. The only other person on the radar for him would be the Emperor, who clearly isn't doing the search personally.
if someone arrived on planet that he knew he couldn't handle, I'd assume he and the Lars had a contingency plan, like the Ersos have in Rogue One.
However, continuing to draw on the Force and do lightsaber training, even out in the cave, is eventually going to get him noticed. That Jawa walked up on him without him noticing. If he was spinning his saber around and lifting rocks, he'd either have to kill the Jawa or pray he didn't blab it which he would because he's a Jawa.
So not using the Force seems like the best way to keep Luke safe. The other Jedi arriving on Tatooine looking for Obi-Wan in the first episode is what fouls that plan up.
In ROTS onboard Tantive V, Yoda's command is: "Hidden safe the children must be kept." and Obi-Wan replies. "We must take them somewhere the Sith will not sense their presence."
The long-standing assumption is that the Empire has no presence on Alderaan and it has a big enough population that nobody would notice she's got the Force, especially with no one to train her.
The same assumption, based on nothing but EU stuff, is that Yoda picks Dagobah because its so teeming with life but uninhabited that the Empire wouldn't look there.
And Tatooine is on the Outer Rim lawless.
Obi-Wan clearly has the combat skills to still whip a bunch of stormtroopers as we have seen a few times in the show. and the random bounty hunter gang, even without his saber or the Force. I suspect he could "reactivate' the Force and probably defeat any of the Inquisitors if it came down to it. Ditto any but the very best bounty hunters. The only other person on the radar for him would be the Emperor, who clearly isn't doing the search personally.
if someone arrived on planet that he knew he couldn't handle, I'd assume he and the Lars had a contingency plan, like the Ersos have in Rogue One.
However, continuing to draw on the Force and do lightsaber training, even out in the cave, is eventually going to get him noticed. That Jawa walked up on him without him noticing. If he was spinning his saber around and lifting rocks, he'd either have to kill the Jawa or pray he didn't blab it which he would because he's a Jawa.
So not using the Force seems like the best way to keep Luke safe. The other Jedi arriving on Tatooine looking for Obi-Wan in the first episode is what fouls that plan up.
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https://imsdb.com/scripts/Star-Wars-Return-of-the-Jedi.htmlUrban Ag said:If I recall correctly, it is not until he is basically reading Luke's thoughts in ROTJ, on the DS2, that he figures Leia out.Phat32 said:
But based on his conversation with Luke in ROTJ, he doesn't know about Leia, right?
Quote:
. . .
122 INT EMPEROR'S TOWER - THRONE ROOM
Vader stalks the low-ceilinged area on the level below the throne,
searching for Luke in the semi-darkness, his lightsaber held ready.
VADER
You cannot hide forever, Luke.
LUKE
I will not fight you.
VADER
Give yourself to the dark side. It is the only way you can save your
friends. Yes, your
thoughts betray you. Your feelings for them are strong. Especially
for...
Vader stops and senses something. Luke shuts his eyes tightly, in
anguish.
VADER
Sister! So...you have a twin sister. Your feelings have now betrayed
her, too. Obi-Wan
was wise to hide her from me. Now his failure is complete. If you will
not turn to the dark
side, then perhaps she will.
LUKE
Never-r-r!
. . .
Surely he has to be aware of Inquisitors hunting Jedi and he should be prepared to handle them if they discover Luke. They do target Force sensitive children.
In the show we see Kenobi struggle to "reactivate" the Force. He could barely stop Leia from falling to her death.
In the show we see Kenobi struggle to "reactivate" the Force. He could barely stop Leia from falling to her death.
I had heard that was not James earl jones and was the same tech they used for Luke in boba fett
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Maury Povich would have had a field day having Vader on one of those parentage episodes.
Meanwhile, Obi-Wan when Leia asks him.
I was always confused why the Organas and Lars just didn't say these are our kids. Especially the Lars. Are their neighbors who live 30 miles away going to question Beru having a baby?
Meanwhile, Obi-Wan when Leia asks him.
I was always confused why the Organas and Lars just didn't say these are our kids. Especially the Lars. Are their neighbors who live 30 miles away going to question Beru having a baby?
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I agree, but I also think in a do-or-die, he could handle an inquisitor based on what I saw of them in Rebels. They are neither Jedi nor Sith, but lesser than either. But that would be a last at of desperation on Obi-Wan's part.chase128 said:
Surely he has to be aware of Inquisitors hunting Jedi and he should be prepared to handle them if they discover Luke. They do target Force sensitive children.
In the show we see Kenobi struggle to "reactivate" the Force. He could barely stop Leia from falling to her death.
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