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*** OBI-WAN KENOBI *** (Disney+ Series)
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veryfuller said:
This is my BIG gripe with the series overall (among many gripes). IT DOESN'T NEED TO EXIST AT ALL. It furthers none of the characters. It doesn't shed any light on anything (it essentially can't because then it would screw up the canon). It basically amounts to just playing with toys because they don't have any other Star Wars stories to tell so, why not? It feels like fan fiction.
I think the fact that it was in development for so long also makes me more annoyed. Like....you guys spent YEARS developing this thing...and THIS is the BEST you can do?!?!? Should have pulled the plug.
There *was* version where the focus could have been so much more on Obi-Wan experiencing a crisis of faith of sorts. Where he's basically lost in the wilderness, so to speak, depressed, knows that he's essentially responsible for creating the primary villain terrorizing the galaxy, etc. But then he's reluctantly called to some kind of action where in his faith is ultimately restored and he now has the resolve to protect Luke for the next decade or so. Because him being a hermit in the desert for nearly two decades, grappling with his failures, *would* be a very real and harrowing thing. So there's absolutely a version of this that tells the story of how he found the resolve to not only survive, but thrive, and I think that would have been a story worth telling. It didn't need to involve Vader, but it could have had him confronting his thematic demons of sorts, through whatever action/conflict, and come out better for it on the other side.
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I totally agree. But as soon as they brought in Vader to raise the stakes, it actually lowered them. Nothing meaningful can happen.
In 100% agreement with that.
I know there is a whole page of posts, so this may have been covered.helloimustbegoing said:And LUke was in it for what, 45 seconds to heal up from a Wampa mauling and hypothermia? 15 minutes is an eternity by comparison!Brian Earl Spilner said:
Apparently about 15 minutes.
My thought was its some weird Sith/Dark side thing where you aren't allowed to use bacta, because they want you to take that pain and channel it into anger and power. Something like that
Who knows, lol
Did we used to have a meme specific thread for Star Wars, or am I confusing that with another show?
I remember one for GoT.
Brian Earl Spilner said:
Rewatched the Vader vs Reva "fight" about four times now. (If we can call that a fight.) Still get a kick out of it.
This is what I picture Anakin doing under the helmet.
This is what I picture Anakin doing under the helmet.
It solidifies that what Vader really wants is a challenge.
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That's really what this story is about, Vader is bored as hell. That's why he came up with the most wildly convoluted plan in human history to get Obi Wan.
bobinator said:
That's really what this story is about, Vader is bored as hell. That's why he came up with the most wildly convoluted plan in human history to get Obi Wan.
It is a good point, particularly as he comes to realize that every battle he fought in the clone wars, every opponent defeated, was just Palpatine pulling strings to drive more jedi towards their deaths and push anakin closer to the dark side. I highly recommend Matthew Stowers reveng3 of the sith novel for the chapter told from count dookus point of view when he realizes his whole time as a sith lord was to serve as anakins first straight up cold blooded execution of a civilized being.
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Palpatine is lucky Dooku didn't kill Anakin on Geonosis. I wonder if he already knew the future plans for him and was under orders not to kill him?
Makes me wonder, but I'd think not.
Makes me wonder, but I'd think not.
Nah our man Dooks was on the hunt for his apprentice to help him take down Palpatine some day and Anakin was still a good prospect, can't be killing him like that.
From Palpatine's perspective, if Anakin gets killed by Dooku, then he's not the powerful apprentice Palps is looking for.
And I think Dooku hated Anakin too much to try and gain his allegiance. He was already after Obi-Wan. One might argue that is why he only wounded Obi-Wan instead of deal a killing blow.
And I think Dooku hated Anakin too much to try and gain his allegiance. He was already after Obi-Wan. One might argue that is why he only wounded Obi-Wan instead of deal a killing blow.
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I don't want to scroll back and I was very sick when I watched this last week so it might have had a good explanation, but what was the deal with the two ships? They had a secret decoy ship just for Vader to destroy? Why didn't they use that one to begin with?
Basically, they reduced Vader to a cartoon villain that got tricked by that measly wabbit.
Would be such redemption if Jar Jar is revealed as the true Grand Inquisitor in this finale.The Collective said:
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But I think they made him a hobo on some backwater planet in a kids Star Wars show if I recall correctly.
My question - could Vader had grabbed the Falcon on Hoth?
No, the force doesn't work as well in the cold. Everyone knows this.
Or Leia in Rogue One. I have all sorts of issues with Vader using this ability now. The narrow getaway has been a common SW occurrence and this cheapened it. It also left you with "why didn't he just force grab the 2nd ship?" So much dumb in this series so far
the empire sure does like watching enemy ships fly off... if only they had ships that could fly as well.
All of that part is fine. I mean it's silly, but c'mon.
My issue is like, didn't the whole plot hinge on them only having one ship? If they had two ships whey couldn't they have just sent everyone else on their way while Obi Wan was doing his Leia rescue mission? Or if they were waiting on them for some reason they still could have sent everyone as soon as they got back.
My issue is like, didn't the whole plot hinge on them only having one ship? If they had two ships whey couldn't they have just sent everyone else on their way while Obi Wan was doing his Leia rescue mission? Or if they were waiting on them for some reason they still could have sent everyone as soon as they got back.
I guess maybe Ice Cube's song is the only pilot that can fly it, or knows the route? In that case, the 2nd ship would just have to be a backup ship I guess, and I dont recall it being mentioned or even seeing it earlier in the episode but I could have just overlooked it.bobinator said:
All of that part is fine. I mean it's silly, but c'mon.
My issue is like, didn't the whole plot hinge on them only having one ship? If they had two ships whey couldn't they have just sent everyone else on their way while Obi Wan was doing his Leia rescue mission? Or if they were waiting on them for some reason they still could have sent everyone as soon as they got back.
I think they also should have shown him try to stop the 2nd ship, but only be able to stop it for a second because he had used too much energy. Him just not reacting at all seems dumb based on what he just did.
Disney loves power creep with the force
Yep. In ESB, Yoda, one of the most powerful Jedi of all time, had to really concentrate to lift an X-wing out of the swamp. And Vader can stop a very large ship from taking off. Granted, you could argue he had assistance from gravity...redline248 said:
Disney loves power creep with the force
I'm not excusing it but they made Vader uber powerful in Fallen Jedi and Rebels. I think they must have felt they needed to somehow justify the fear of him even further so they powered him up.DannyDuberstein said:
Or Leia in Rogue One. I have all sorts of issues with Vader using this ability now. The narrow getaway has been a common SW occurrence and this cheapened it. It also left you with "why didn't he just force grab the 2nd ship?" So much dumb in this series so far
And then probably felt like they had to extend that into this series since it's all canon and in the same time frame.