Manchester United 2023-24 Thread

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Mainoo has looked pretty good so far
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Pillow soft PK drawn, taken and made by Bruno
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Yeah I won't lie… if that penalty were given against us I would be pretty mad. I'm not sure VAR would have reversed it, though, because the guy did get his shoe, but it was about 10% contact and 90% selling by Bruno.
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Sancho on loan to Dortmund. 3.5 million fee and they will pay a portion of his salary. No buy option.

Not a bad outcome for a player who clearly has no realistic future at United while ETH is there. Gives United optionality. A little bit of money and some help with his wages for 5 months. If he does well at Dortmund, you can sell him for more in the summer. If he does well and ETH is sacked, there's a (small) chance that he sticks around under a new manager.
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Is this alternate reality? That is not a ManU kind of move.
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Well, everyone thought it was nearly agreed before the window opened, and it still took a week and a half to actually get it done. Does that sound more like the United we are familiar with?
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It appears that Dortmund will be paying the majority of his salary and that the 3.5 million EUR fee is a minimum that could go up based on certain performance related benchmarks. Considering the situation, that's a shockingly good deal.
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Lisandro and Case are back on the bench. Get them 30 minutes and start to stretch them out a bit.

And how is Onana still in goal? Did he not go to the ANC?
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Somehow, Cameroon agreed for him to play this match even though Cameroon plays tomorrow. Absurd really.
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Love to see Hojlund roof that bad boy in
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Great counterattack
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What a goal!
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What a finish!
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No assist for Rashford. It was poked away from Rashford, not heeled back by him. Lucky for the opportunity but damn what a finish to take advantage of that opportunity
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We are so **** at defending set pieces
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Dalot...initially wasn't covering the post, then realized mid corner kick that he should except he marked like 2 yards inside of the post instead and ended up being everywhere except for where he should have been.
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Good Rashford
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Finally the breakthrough form Rashford.
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Please God let Rashford start getting his scoring touch back
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I have no clue how Rashford got to that 1-2 from Hojlund. It's like his defender was a ghost.
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Also, that Udogie no call in the box on Garnacho is one of the hardest things to try to explain to a person who is trying to get into top level soccer. That is 100% a foul anywhere else on the pitch other than the penalty area and yet will never, ever be called in the box. Not because it's a rule. It's just that we have all universally agreed that certain fouls aren't fouls in the box for some reason and we can't even actually explain what types of fouls aren't fouls in the box...we just all kind of know it after watching enough.
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Good lord
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Dre_00 said:

Also, that Udogie no call in the box on Garnacho is one of the hardest things to try to explain to a person who is trying to get into top level soccer. That is 100% a foul anywhere else on the pitch other than the penalty area and yet will never, ever be called in the box. Not because it's a rule. It's just that we have all universally agreed that certain fouls aren't fouls in the box for some reason and we can't even actually explain what types of fouls aren't fouls in the box...we just all kind of know it after watching enough.


Case in point the foul they just gave to Richarlidon
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Dre_00 said:

Also, that Udogie no call in the box on Garnacho is one of the hardest things to try to explain to a person who is trying to get into top level soccer. That is 100% a foul anywhere else on the pitch other than the penalty area and yet will never, ever be called in the box. Not because it's a rule. It's just that we have all universally agreed that certain fouls aren't fouls in the box for some reason and we can't even actually explain what types of fouls aren't fouls in the box...we just all kind of know it after watching enough.
i get the disappointment at times if a foul anywhere else on the pitch is not called a foul in the box, but a ref doesn't want to award free goals by calling a petty foul when the attacker goes down way too easily, wide in the box, back to goal, with no chance of scoring. I don't mind the global understanding that it should either be a foul going to goal or be more a egregious foul in the 18 yd box to award a penalty. VAR looked at that one on garnacho. Reverse the sides and you'd hate for a pen to be awarded to an opponent for that. Garnacho knew what he was doing. Nice try to earn a whistle in the box. Nice discipline by the ref to play on and let var take a quick look for an obvious mistake by the ref.
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I'm not even saying I necessarily disagree with the fact that this condition exists. I'm just saying it's exceedingly bizarre to traditional American sports fans (IMO). Hell, it's bizarre to me and I'm a soccer fan. I mean, I get it but...it's still weird. It's a massively important unwritten rule and I think a lot of people have a hard time coming to terms with the fact that fouls often aren't fouls if they occur in the penalty box even if there is no rule that says so.

And the whole hand ball in the box compounds the bizarreness as apparently that's the one foul in the box that will 100% result in a penalty (at least in UEFA comps) even if there is 100% certainty that there was no reasonable way for the hand ball to be avoided and/or a complete lack of intent. Like the world we currently live in says both that Udogie's pull isn't a foul because it was way too minor (fair enough) but if the ball nicks off your hand from point blank range while in the penalty box, it's a penalty (what?).
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Hannibal off to Sevilla on loan with an 20 million EUR option to buy. There is a buyback clause but amount hasn't been reported (that I've seen). All things considered, a respectable deal I think.
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Dre_00
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Wow. So many odd things about this.

1) He appears to be an amazing candidate
2) He is being hired from a hated rival
3) Absolutely no indication/rumor it was going to happen
4) Cleary INEOS influenced

No clue how this will end up but this is the most impressive non-player/coach move the club has made in…20 years?
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How Omar Berrada a 'college dropout' became one of football's most respected executives
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Huge hire!
Mathguy64
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Well this escalated quickly.

Minority owner my ass.
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I wonder if this is some indication that City are about to get the hammer dropped on them and he's getting out to avoid the stink?
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From your lips to God's ears…
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For those that don't have an Athletic subscription the general gist is that this guy has a wealth of experience on the commercial side and helped immensely in building City group's commercial power. And he's also been heavily involved in pairing with football directors to secure talent. They sell the players on their place in the squad/footballing world qualities. He makes sure the numbers make sense and that all players are appropriately valued relative to the squad and to their footballing worth.
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Martial out for another prolonged period. Gotta have one of the worst injury/illness records of all time
 
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