Duncan Idaho said:

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The Collective said:

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When does Disney + give us a Friends styled show set on Coruscant?

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I'd prefer a Honeymooners type show about the lives of 2 civil servants working in the bowels of Coruscant.

Or an All in the Family remake.

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I want a workplace docu-comedy ala The Office about employees on either of the Death Stars.

Stripes but the imperial navy

I am pretty confident an adaptation of the Coruscant Nights series (or something very similar) would work well.
It's essentially about a Jedi Knight that survived Order 66, who hides out in the lower levels of Coruscant and makes a living as a private investigator and concealing his jedi-ness.

So you mix aspects of the force and larger Star Wars universe in, but its ultimately about detective work and star wars gangster stuff.,

Also think a star wars based mafia/mob movie could be really interesting.

Duncan Idaho said:

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Stripes but the imperial navy

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Porkins: My name's Jek Porkins. My friends call me Porky. You might have noticed that, uh, I've got a slight weight problem.
Rebel pilots: Noooo! Nooo!
Porkins: "Yeah, yeah I do. I went to this medical droid. Well, he told me I swallow a lot of aggression, along with a lot of nerf steaks! Ha ha ha! Nerf steaks! I'm basically a shy person. I'm a shy guy. Uh, he suggested taking one of these uh, aggression training course. You these aggression training courses like How to Act Like a Sith in 90 Days?, those types of things. Anyway, it cost 400 credits! 400 credits to join this thing! Well I didn't have the credits, and I thought to myself, "Join the Rebel Alliance! It's free!" So I figured while I'm here I'll lose a few pounds. And you got what, a 6-to-8 mission training program here? A real tough one? Which is perfect for me. I'm going to fly outta Yavin a lean, mean, TIE-fighter blasting machine!" Ha ha hah!"

TCTTS said:

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The first reviews are in for #Andor - currently it's #Fresh at 89% on the #Tomatometer, with 161 reviews: https://t.co/HtVhZZTNy4 pic.twitter.com/quGj2y1GmH

— Rotten Tomatoes (@RottenTomatoes) September 20, 2022

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cheers!

I mean i don't either tbh.

Watching it in real time at night > watching it in the morning. Personally, I can't watch anything in the morning. Something about watching big shows or movies before lunch just feels wrong.

Releasing it at a reasonable time > releasing it at 2 am

This continues to be such a stupid ****ing thing they do.

I broke down, watched the first episode, and holy crap they finally did it. They made a Star Wars series for adults, one that plays, looks, and sounds better than anything I was expecting, and my expectations were already sky high. The cast, the atmosphere, the dialogue, the cinematography, the score… it all instantly makes for one of my favorite Star Wars things ever, and hardly anything's even happened so far. It's like Rogue One by way of Tron: Legacy, Blade Runner, and Wall-E, with an edge and level of writing I never thought I'd see from Star Wars.

Honestly, for me, Mando doesn't even hold a candle to this.

And again, the first episode is almost more of a tease than anything. It didn't even feel like it scratched the surface, yet I could not be more amped.

I just… hell yeah.

THIS is the future of the franchise. This vibe. It can be other vibes too, of course, but whatever *this* is, it needs to be the spine and the anchor from here on out.

Anyway, I'm off to bed, then knocking out the next two episodes Wednesday night, and I cannot wait.

ANDOR is tremendous. The level of maturity on display has been something sorely needed in the STAR WARS universe since 1980.

— Robert Midnight Boo-nett Viceroy of Verisimilitude (@BurnettRM) September 21, 2022

I mean....this is how you do it right

It has the look of Star Wars, but with a harder edge. It feels like Star Wars, but has absolutely nothing to do with the Force. While it's obvious who is good or evil in this show, you can see the lines blur right before your eyes.

This show has a depth that the other series are lacking.

That was a great start. "Star Wars for adults" is right.

"Don't you wanna fight these basterds for real?"

It was like watching a movie, which given Tony GIlroy, I guess is what it really is. Totally worth skipping 2 a.m. -4 am. of sleepy time for me.

Random observations after a few hours of sleep
The world building on both Cassian's current planet and the one he grew up on are just lovely. Production design off the charts - lots of familiar Star Wars looks, but lots of things that make me feel like I'm on an alien world untouched by Skywalkers and Solos.

One of my biggest pluses was that they didn't put the native tribe's language in subtitles. We can only go by body language, facial expressions, and tone/pitch of voice to guess at their meanings.

The first 5 minutes have a brothel, booze, and an execution-style murder. That's exciting, but probably going to have me telling my SW fan she's not old enough to watch it, which is heart breaking.

Kudos to Timm for presumably nailing Bix after ratting out her ex-BF to the imps. That takes some balls.

I love that the Chris Farley-esque military officer played for laughs in the beginning, then you saw him being really efficient at his job, then giving into conspiracy "They're everywhere!" at the end. I can definitely see him and the deputy inspector getting really sadistic if they continue on in the show.

The random, yet coordinated acts of defiance and rebellion by the rest of the people in town was probably my favorite thing - the beating on the metal to raise the alarm, which the militia guys totally misinterpreted, the guys showing up outside Marva's house to question what they were doing to her, and Cassian's friend hitching the squad car to the giant slab of stone were all what Marva is talking about.

The editing cuts back and forth in the final half of the third episode between past and present, revealing Cassian's true origins in getting off planet then and now.

Everything Skaarsgard did as Luthien. Especially when he was testing/interviewing Andor, and you realized he already knew the asnwer of how to steal from the Empire, and he just wanted to see if Andor knew too. He has been in so many incredible roles, but feels like he was born to play this one.

The first talk between the Deputy Inspector and his supervisor. That guy was fantastic, great, tight scene, and the guy totally had the right of what happened, and was like - I don't have time for this BS.

Incredible to think all of that was without a single stormtrooper or TIE or Star Destroyer, that was just fighting against a giant corrupt corporation that has control of your city.


Great tapping into on some connections from other pieces of SW work

the holo-entertainer at the brothel, those have been in half the video games in SW history at least, including KOTOR, TOR, and Galaxies.

Lucien's ship's droid is from Fondor, the shipyard, according to the sub titles.

The family droid looked a lot like the droids from the Black Hole. I loved how fluent BEEMO was.

The ships the corporate police used looked a lot like the Republic's go-to ships during the Clone Wars.

It was a Republic vessel coming to investigate the crash when Cassian was a kid.

One more thing ...

The scene on his home planet where he pauses and looks into the open strip-mining pit was really phenomenal. Years ago, my brother and I took a road trip through Arizona and stayed on night in Bisbee, a small town that during the mid-20th century was a boom town because of its mines full of copper and turquoise. Its population was around 10,000 in the late 50s, then the mines played out and all the big companies lit out, leaving behind scarred landscape and people who couldn't afford to move somewhere else. It was so striking seeing that giant pit in the episode, such a familiarity to what happens when big brother has used your town (or planet) all up and just moves on.


Bisbee



Andor

Immediately made me think of lithium mining pits

I dont know if anyone is reading through this thread without watching, but if you are, watch all 3 in a row if you can. It was definitely written and released with that in mind, and it forms a nice movie-length story arc

PatAg said:

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I dont know if anyone is reading through this thread without watching, but if you are, watch all 3 in a row if you can. It was definitely written and released with that in mind, and it forms a nice movie-length story arc

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yeah I agree, in fact at the end of the first episode, I had forgotten I was watching a TV show and was surprised at the credits rolling!

Holy crap, just inject another 50 episodes of that right into my vein!

I've been saying for years that the Star Wars universe uses Jedi/Sith/space magic as a crutch way too much. Underneath all of that is literally WORLDS of struggle from normal people under the thumb of the Empire that is infinitely more relatable to generations worth of Star Wars fans.

Every person on this project needs to be retained. The writers, directors, producers, camera people, whoever designed the gunfight, the set designers, everyone. Don't even change janitorial staff.

Mando is cool, but this was multiple steps above that. If Disney isn't lining up 5 more 'Andors' right now then they are lost.

Rogue Squadron or something like the Twighlight Company books could be amazing like this.

Only watch the first two so far, but absolutely loving it. The tone feels exactly in line with his first scene in Rogue One, but you can also see that he's not that hardened killer that we see there just yet.

I also absolutely love that the flashback scenes do not have subtitles. It was a bit confusing at first, but as they went on, it felt like they did a great job of communicating without having to say anything, and really helps give make their isolation feel more real, especially when they encounter the imperials at the crash.

Can't wait for more.

This might be the riskiest project Disney has ever done.

Dark tone on a huge franchise with no fan service. We didn't get the force, barely just one Empire emblem with no stormtroopers.

Yet it is already a home run.