Didn't on mine either.

I was trying to think but maybe I'm just dumb and can't remember, was "5 BBY" the first time we've ever gotten an actual date on screen in Star Wars?

As mentioned earlier in the thread, they did a good enough job of conveying the emotions and intent in the scenes that the subtitles were not necessary. The new West Side Story was the same way, subtitles were not necessary to understand the scene

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Phew. I thought it was just me for a minute. I wish I could know what they are saying but I guess it isn't that important for the show.

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The show's creators purposefully made the decision not to include Kenari subtitles in Andor, just like George Lucas did with several alien languages. It puts more of an emphasis on the viewer to decipher what is happening based on the body language and movements of the children, as well as the inflection of their voices and their actions that follow.bi

https://screenrant.com/andor-kenari-subtitles-no-translation-explained/

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That's kind of what I'm getting at. It seemed like Boba Fett and Obi Wan Kenobi weren't sure what their audiences were.

I get that they're thinking different audiences, I wasn't trying to imply they should all be the same, but it seemed like they were searching with the other shows.

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I can't believe that they made shows about Boba Fett and Obi-Wan and didn't aim it at the demographic that watched the OT as kids. It's great that those shows were enjoyable by kids now, but holy **** they missed the mark.

I have episodes of LOTR, Atlanta, Reservation Dogs, and She-Hulk to catch up on, yet all I want to do is rewatch the first three episodes of Andor again.

Ok, yeah… this is just so out of left field well done. It's almost baffling how much they missed everywhere else yet this thing comes out and just nails the production, emotion, intensity and just an amazing soundtrack to tie it all together. It's awesome and frankly I'm still shocked

This is SOOOOOO good. They've do e a great job establishing tone and pacing everything. At the end of every episode I'm like NOOOOOOOO give me MOOOOORE!

Mando is great because of how much nostalgia it brings. Andor is all brand ****ing new. Love it.

I complained about how terrible BoBF & the Obi-Wan series were and said I had lost interest in where Disney was taking the franchise. I also said I was pretty much done with the series.

Well, we didn't cancel Disney+ so I casually started the first episode with the remote nearby ready to cut off the garbage so I didn't have to endure the misery. (Sounds like Aggie football sometimes, yeah)

The first scene comes on & I'm immediately thinking "Blade Runner" like everyone else did. I kept waiting for the spunky toddler, the goofball alien, the shockingly inept bad guy. Brothel? Wh*res? A hold-up gone wrong? Accidental murder & then cold blooded murder? WTF, this isn't the Star Wars of late!?!? The robot rolling through the scrap yard was straight out of Wall-E & when it began to stutter I thought "Here we go". But it still didn't go there. Then the Bix character has "relations" with Timm... another first for Star Wars. (Also, wow she is gorgeous!)

Where are the flying Vespas? The hordes of stormtroopers getting mowed down as they fire seemingly trying to miss? The ridiculously poor decisions by main characters?

I'm astounded at virtually everything about the first three episodes. The only things I can say that were remotely cheesy Star Wars were the stuttering droid & the perhaps the chamber of chained up engine blocks falling all over the place.

Hopefully this raises the bar & level of sophistication for any upcoming SW series. I say this with trepidation as Disney will still want some new marketable action figure characters (goofball alien, cutesy droid) for the kids. If the numbers for Andor aren't good, I have doubts Disney will venture down the gritty Star Wars path again for a long, long time.

Can't wait for next week!!

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I complained about how terrible BoBF & the Obi-Wan series were and said I had lost interest in where Disney was taking the franchise. I also said I was pretty much done with the series.

Well, we didn't cancel Disney+ so I casually started the first episode

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This is what I imagine for every single person who boldly proclaims they are done with X, Y, or Z

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Apache said:

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I complained about how terrible BoBF & the Obi-Wan series were and said I had lost interest in where Disney was taking the franchise. I also said I was pretty much done with the series.

Well, we didn't cancel Disney+ so I casually started the first episode

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This is what I imagine for every single person who boldly proclaims they are done with X, Y, or Z

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Casually started the first episode within 48 hours of its release.

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There's already a B2EMO toy at the World of Disney store in Orlando.

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Droid design is consistently the best aspect of the Disney era Star Wars.

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I have episodes of LOTR, Atlanta, Reservation Dogs, and She-Hulk to catch up on, yet all I want to do is rewatch the first three episodes of Andor again.

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Rewatched the pilot last night and it really is one of my favorites of the past few years. Just incredible. The writing, in particular, is so stellar and as good as if not better than anything else on TV. Even on the second go-around I was in disbelief that a Star Wars series can look, sound, and feel like this, to the point of it almost having a dream-like quality. From here on out, I'm going to be looking forward to episodes almost as much as I do episodes of something like Succession.

don't you want to fight these *******s for real?


MAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAN!!!!!!

In 3 episodes I care so much more about what's going on here than the 3 movies in the sequel trilogy!!!

The acting from everyone on this show has been friggin awesome and nobody is phoning this thing in. So dang great!!!!

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I actually thought they were really good and sort of ridiculous-on-purpose.

These are contract employees that aren't good enough to work for the actual empire, but they consider themselves as very serious officers. Kind of a rent-a-cop situation. So they act like they're imperial officers with their knock-off uniforms. The one guy even tailoring his own uniform to make it look more like the imperial uniform was a nice touch.

But everyone else makes fun of them, even calling them "blues" I think it was at one point.

I think all of that was very intentional, and really kind of new for Star Wars. The empire obviously can't be everywhere all at once, so they subcontract, and the subcontractor companies are full of wanna-be imperials, full on fraudsters, and people who don't care and are just trying to collect a paycheck. It's that environment that allows the nascent rebellion to "foment" as our guy put it.

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I don't think they're subcontracted security. I think they're more like the Weyland-Yutani corporation from Alien or the East India Tea Company. I think they have a lot of business areas and basically run/own a bunch of planets, and these guys just run security. The director wants to keep things quiet because he knows the empire will step in of there's unrest and the corporation will lose its autonomy.

I don't think it's so much that they work for the empire as it is they work in the empire. They're a quasi-governmental enterprise that does business with everyone, but they're so large they have their own paramilitary units and have jurisdiction over areas they operate in, sort of like the East India Company.

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Apache said:
I complained about how terrible BoBF & the Obi-Wan series were and said I had lost interest in where Disney was taking the franchise. I also said I was pretty much done with the series.

Well, we didn't cancel Disney+ so I casually started the first episode

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This is what I imagine for every single person who boldly proclaims they are done with X, Y, or Z

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ABATTBQ11 said:

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I don't think it's so much that they work for the empire as it is they work in the empire. They're a quasi-governmental enterprise that does business with everyone, but they're so large they have their own paramilitary units and have jurisdiction over areas they operate in, sort of like the East India Company.

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so is this like the sub-contractor argument from Clerks regarding the second Death Star?

I mean that's fine, I don't know the whole history of the East India company and I think it's maybe a semantics argument whether they work for or with or in the empire. I just got real "we are very serious, please take us seriously" vibes from the two leader guys and it seemed like everyone else was just trying to collect a paycheck and stay under the radar. And then you had a few people, the guys at the beginning, that were just straight up corrupt.

But the boss guy mentioned something about not wanting to have to report any bad news to the local (imperial something.)