***** The Box Office Thread *****

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Borderlands has left the building after just 28 days in theaters and $15.482 million, It made more than half of that ($8.6 million) on its opening weekend. It finishes in 4,451th place all-time. Adjusted for inflation, that's 5,403rd place, behind such luminaires at Bratz, Delta Force 2, First Daughter, and Superbabies: Baby Geniuses 2.
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Huge second weekend for Beetlejuicex2 - $51.6 million to reach $188m domestic. Its international presence is almost non-existent, no surprise - at $36m.England and Mexico is its second- and third- leading country at $9.6 and $6.4m. It's not showing at all in China ,Japan, Germany, France, and many other places.

It's already up to the #16 comedy of all-time domestic, and could finish as high as second (without inflation). Home Alone currently holds that spot at $285m. Barbie is far and away #1 at $636m.

Speak No Evil debuts at #2 with $11.5m. I believe this is about Prof. X / Mr. Tumnus playing a crazy person, but not the crazy person from Split.

Deadpool & Wolverine shed 325 theaters but still pulled in $5.2 m for the weekend to reach $621.5m. It has surpassed The Last Jedi ($620m in 2017) for 15th all-time domestic and is less than $2m behind 2012's Avengers for 14th. It needs $10.5m to reach $1.3 bn worldwide, something only 21 films have done previously.

Alien: Romulus made $2.4m to breach $100m at $101.3m. It is the 15th movie to reach $100m in 2024. There were 24 movies to do that last year.

Inside Out 2 is down to just 700 theaters and still trails Jurassic World by more than $1 million for 10th all time domestic. Usually the movie studios get real shady at the end of a run and conjure up some sort of company events or screenings to get them over the hump to the next milestone - the most egregious being getting Black Panther to $700m. So watch for that. Inside Out 2 is about $300,000 away from passing JW globally.

Despicable Me 4 is into the top 65 domestic of all time at $359m, passing GOTG3.

Twisters is up to $265m and #133 all-time passing DM3 The Amazing Spiderman, and Harry Potter 2 this weekend.




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Beetlejuice is wrecking shop.

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Transformers One debuts with $3.36 m in Thursday openings. I've never seen a movie do such an about face from the first trailer (Prime and Megs are the 2 best friends that anyone could have) to the second trailer (all sorts of factions and actions and an all-out war.)

Beetlejuice x 2 reached $200m with a $2.4m Thursday. It is only the second comedy to hit $200m since 2013, the other being Barbie last year. Prior to 2023, the last comedy to hit $200m was Ted in 2012. BJ2 (that is not a good acronym) will likely be into the top 10 domestic comedies by this time next week and has a great shot at reaching #2 all time, where Home Alone has lived in the top 2 for 34 years.

Deadpool & Wolverine did something that certainly seemed unthinkable a few years ago when Ryan Reynolds finally got the first of those films greenlit .It passed The Avengers in domestic box office, reaching $623.384m, finishing about $27,000 ahead of the 2012 original Marvel super pair-up.
If it stays in theaters another month D&W could pass Barbie ($636m) and finish #12 all time. What an achievement.

Inside Out 2, down to 700 theaters and now available on streaming, is $700,000 behind Jurassic World for 10th all-time domestic. That shouldn't downplay its remarkable collection of accomplishments:
#1 all time animated box office domestic
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#1 movie of 2024
#1 all-time PG movies
#5 all-time Disney movies
In addition to its huge domestic plunder, it has made $77m in the UK, $50m in Spain, $63m in SOuth Korea, $102m in Mexico, $54m in Germany, $64m in France, and $80m in Brazil.

It will finish #8 all-time worldwide box office, having finally passed Jurassic World there. It's at $1.676bn right now.
#1 all-time international animated box office at $1.023bn, the only animated film to reach that. I suspect Frozen 3, due out in 2026, will be the immediate contender to challenge back.


The top 10 domestic films for 2024 as of 9/20

1. Inside Out 2 - $652.7m
#2 Deadpool & Wolverine - $623.4m
#3 Despicable Me 4 - $359.7m
#4 - Dune Part 2 - $282.1m
#5 Twisters - $266.7m
#6 Beetlejuice 2 - $200.8m
#7 Godzilla vs. Kong - Brokeback Monkey - $196.3m
#8 Kung Fu Panda 4 - $193.6m
#9 Bad Boys 4 - $193.6m
#10 Kingdom of the Planet of the Valley of the River of the Garden of the Rise of the War of the Subway of the Apes - $171.1m

That's $2.182bn for the top 5 movies, with Beetlejuice probably getting into the top 5 at some point. Likely this will not be the final top 5, Mufasa will surely get in there north of $400-$500m, and Gladiator 2 might challenge the top 5 as well, even the Transformers movie if it's as good as it sounds, and Moana 2, which my gut tells me might suck. The Wild RObot might be a sleeper as well, I read it got a 100% RT score after the Toronto Film festival. Not sure if that is a big deal or not.
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Beetlejuice edged out Transformers One (or in Spanish Transformacion Uno) $26m to $25m to win the weekend.

This vaults Beetlejuice2 into the Top 10 all-time for comedies at #9 with $226m domestic. It bolted past Austin Powers 2 & 3, Wedding Crashers, Ted, and Mrs. Doubtfire, and will be into the Top 6 by the end of this week, just $8m behind Beverly Hills Cop and $16 million behind Ghostbusters & Bruce Almighty.

Transformers One exceeded the last TF movie, Bumblebee's opening weekend by $4m. That movie finished with $127m.

Deadpool & Wolverine hauled another $3.9m despite shedding 625 theaters down to 2,450. It's up to $627m, less than $10m behind Barbie for 13th all-time and now $25m behind Inside Out 2 for first this year. Inside Out 2 down to just 250 theaters.

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Beetlejuice Beetlejuice on track to surpass Batman 89 next week at the domestic box office. ($250M)

Pretty insane.
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Beetlejuice Beetlejuice on track to surpass Batman 89 next week at the domestic box office. ($250M)

Pretty insane.


Not really.

Compare ticket prices from 1989 to now.

Number of tickets sold should have always been the metric, not dollar amount of tickets sold.

But Hollywood would not want to see that Gone With The Wind is still the all-time leader.
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Obviously it hasn't sold more tickets, but it's still impressive considering Beetlejuice is more a cult character. It will also surpass the original Beetlejuice by $100M or more even after adjusting for inflation. (Already 3x'd the original $75M BO.)

This movie selling even half as many tickets as Batman 89 is a huge deal, considering how much movie attendance has fallen in recent years.

But at the end of the day the dollar gross is what people in Hollywood track and actually care about.
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I know. And its a bad comparison.
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It's still really impressive.
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As of Wednesday morning, Beetlejuice x 2 is up to $252.8m domestic. Either tomorrow or Friday, it's going to pass into the TOp 5 all-time domestic comedies. #5 is currently The Hangover 2 at $254.4m.

Especially with a certain Halloween bump at the end of this month, it is likely that Bx2 will challenge and or pass

#4 the Hangover $277m
#3 Meet the ****ers $279m
#2 Home Alone $285m

It also seems like it will easily surpass Twisters ($267m) for #5 this year with a good shot of passing Dune 2 ($282m) for 4th - although there are several heavy hitters coming out this fall that will push it back.

Deadpool and Wolverine entered Tuesday at 631.6m domestic. It will catch Barbie this weekend sometime for #12 domestic ever. Barbie is at $636.2m. If they bring D&W back for Thanksgiving or Christmas, it could see the necessary surge to reach Inside Out 2 at $652.9 (still out in a few places) and Jurassic World ($653.4) but it seems Inside Out 2 might pull the same trick and rack up the $$ over the school holidays.

Despicable Me 4 tops out around $360m for 65th all time. It will likely finish a bit short of $1 bn global ($954.1m now). It is about $10m behind Minions: Rise of Gru which came out in 2022 domestically but has passed it globally. Despicable Me 2 (2013) made $368m domestic and $975m international. The original Minions beat all of them interntionally ($821m) and globally ($1.157bn).

The Wild Robot, which I'm exctied to see this weekend, made a fantastic $2.295m on a school Monday and is at $38m after 4 days. It easily won last weekend with $35.79m.

Transformers One, despite the good word of mouth here, is sliding fast. It dropped 63% from weekend 1 to weekend 2 and is only at $39m.

Despite a quickly flattening box office, Alien Romulus has entered the top 25 domestic for horror moives at $104.7m and can move at leaset to the top 20 before its run ends.

edit to include that language filter on texags blocks the last name of Ben Stiller's character in Meet the Parents



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I remember calling it months back that I thought it was gonna be a pretty big hit.

But I didn't see is being THIS big.

I think it's kind of a perfect storm of people loving Halloween, being family friendly, being a popular character (and Halloween costume) thanks to the movie and the cartoon, people liking the classic Tim Burton style movies, and in particular, the fast-growing star of Jenna Ortega thanks to Wednesday.
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Brian Earl Spilner said:

I remember calling it months back that I thought it was gonna be a pretty big hit.

But I didn't see is being THIS big.

I think it's kind of a perfect storm of people loving Halloween, being family friendly, being a popular character (and Halloween costume) thanks to the movie and the cartoon, people liking the classic Tim Burton style movies, and in particular, the fast-growing star of Jenna Ortega thanks to Wednesday.
Chew on this theory as well - it's overperforming per the scale of the movie just like Maverick did with a surprisingly similar blueprint of:

1. Mostly returning characters, not trying to force us to care about 10 new people.

2) Main star not changing into some other phase of life role - just being themselves.

3) No CGI BS - almost all practical effects

4) No convoluted plot - established rules, great action, laughs, results


To make a good legacy sequel you basically do the opposite of everything Independence Day 2 did. I saw that original movie 60,000 times and I've never made it all the way through the sequel for most of the reasons above.
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All great points.
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Agree with both of you. Also, for what it is it still managed to touch on themes that resonate. That real people appreciate. Specifically it focused on the importance of family and those connections long term, which I liked and appreciated. It was done in a way that a lot of real families can identify with.

I also liked that the male feminist was essentially the bad guy. Again, just a not so subtle way of reinforcing a gender role that a lot of people identify with.
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Way under expectations for the debut of Joker 2.

Predicted to do $55-$60m domestic. Made $20m on Thursday night/ Friday, but those numbers went way down to a $11m Saturday and $8 m SUnday. Much more successful internationally with $81.1 m.

The original made $96 m its first weekend and $370m total. I haven't seen either and haven't been on the thread, but the CInemaScore is D+.

The Wild Robot finished #2 with $18.7m on the weekend to reach a very strong $64m after weekends. Beetlejuice #2 was third on the weekend at $10.3 million to reach $265m and pass The Hangover Part 2 ($254m) for #5 domestic comedy. THe original Hangover is #4 at $277m and Meet the ****ers third at $279m.
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Well the honeymoon is over for Joaquin and Gaga. JOker 2 as outdrawn by less than $1,000 to fall to #2 on the daily box office report yesterday, just 6 days into its release.

TWR made $1.281m to hit $68.8m in 13 days. Joke 2 made $1.280m to reach $43.4m in its 6th day. By horrifying comparison, the original Joker in 2019 was at $129m after 6 days. So just your standard 67% dropoff through 6 days, nothing to see here! It seems pretty likely that Joker 2 will end its domestic run with less money than Joker 1 made in its opening weekend ($96.2m).

I have no idea what Megalopis is, or apparently how to spell it, but it's at $7m through 13 days in 1,854 theaters, so that's terrible.

Deadpool & Wolverine is down to 1,605 theaters, but that should be enough to surpass Barbie for 13th-all time



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I don't know what the record is, but Joker 2 dropped 89% at the box office from its first Friday to its second Friday yesterday. It finished third with $2.2 million after scoring $27.3 million combined on Thur night / Friday last week. that's pretty godawful.

Batman vs.Superman made a combined $81.558 million when it opened on THur/Friday in March 2016, then dropped to $15 million the next Friday. That's 81.5%.

Anyway, Terrifier 3 - and let me be the first old man to say I didn't realize there was a Terrifier 1 or 2 - won Friday's box at $8.2 million. The Wild Robot was second as it treks toward $100m, currently $74.1m.

Beetlejuice #2 hit $270m for its domestic run, Transformers One finally got to $50m, and so on.

Deadpool & Wolverine dropped to just 990 theaters as it went streaming this weekend, meaning it might not actually catch Barbie at $636m. D&W is currently at $634.7m.
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Joker 2 down 81% from week 1 to week 2. It beat out Beetlejuice x 2 by $5,000 for third place. Beetlejuice has been out for 6 weeks.

Terrifier 3 made $18.3 million on the weekend, with the Wild Robot a strong second at $13.45m. TWR is headed for $100m, currently at $83m.

Joker 2 is at $51m. Can't see it getting much past $65 or $70m at this point.

The Saturday Night LIve movie made $3.4 m for the weekend as it expanded up to 2,309 screens.

Nightmare Before Christmas returned to theaters and made $2.3 m in 1,700 theaters.

Deadpool & Wolverine is up to $635.234m. It made $751,000 this weekend. The Mouth and the Wolf are $1.004 million behind Barbie for 12th all-time domestic. A couple more weeks should do it.

Beetlejuice 2 is up to $275.617m domestic. This week it will likely pass The Hangover ($277.3m) and Meet the ****ers ($279.1m) on the all-time comedy list to move to third all time. Home Alone is second at $285m.

Inside Out 2 bows out with an epic $652,980,194 domestic. The 2015 original - my kids' first movie at the theater - made $356,461,711, meaning the Inside Out franchise made $1.009 BN domestic in 2 films. The only other first 2 movies of a franchise to do so without other lead-in (i.e. Black Panther had all the Marvel stuff), is Avatar, which had its two films make 1.469 BN domestic. Neat stuff.
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Beetlejuice passed The Hangover for #4 on the all-time domestic comedy list with $277.913m.

Hangover made $277.3m in 2009. Adjusted for inflation, that's around $406m in 2024 money.

This weekend Beetlejuice will pass Meet the ****ers ($279m) for third on the domestic comedy list. Home Alone is #2 at $285m. Home Alone's $285m in 1990 would be worth $687m today.

Deadpool & Wolverine has closed within $752,000 of Barbie for #12 all-time domestic. One more wekeendshould get it there. It's at 44th all-time international with $697.65m and 19th all-time global at $1.333bn.

With another $1 million and change it will pass Black Panther for 18th all-time global, but that will be as high as it goes.
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Couple cool things happened this weekend.

Deadpool & Wolverine surpassed Barbie for #12 all-time domestic. D&W is at $636,296,828. Barbie finished at $636,238,421. Inside Out 2 and D&W, released within 1 month of each other, wind up 11th and 12th all time domestic. D&W, a hard R gory, filthy superhero movie, surpasses Barbie, seen by every girl on earth 25 times. There's hope for America yet.

And not to be biased, but those incredible figures still leave it $300 m behind The Force Awakens for #1.

Meanwhile, Beetlejuice 2x climbed to 3rd all time in domestic comedies at $283m and will surpass Home Alone for #2 all time in a few days. Soon enough it will be just the 2nd comedy ever (following Barbie) to hit $300m domestic. It also surpassed Dune 2 for #4 on the 2024 box office chart.

Smile 2, which I can barely watch the trailer for because it freaks me out opened to $23m this weekend. The WIld Robot finished #2 at $10.1m and has surpassed $100m for the year at $101.7m.

Joker somehow made $2.18m this weekend, and we finally have a race worth watching.
Joker 2 is at $56.443m and Transformers One is at $56.635m. The difference is that one was a good movie. Who will win?

The Wild Robot is the 16th movie this year to crack $100m domestic.

The studio breakdown for $100m film so far this year is:

Disney: Inside Out 2, Deadpool & Wolverine
Universal: Despicable Me 4, Twisters, Kung Fu Panda 4, The Wild Robot
Warner Bros: Beetlejuice x2, Dune Part 2, Godzilla vs. Kong,
Sony: Bad Boys 4, It Ends with Us, Ghostbusters: Frozen Empire
20th Century: KIngdom of the Planet of the Apes, Alien Romulus
Paramount: A Quiet Place, Yet Again, IF

Disney made $1.278 billion out of movies.




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Solidifying my case that everyone outside of the US is a complete idiot, thanks to strong overseas numbers, Joker 2 is now officially in the black.

It cost $190m to make and has only grossed $56.5m domestic, but a staggering $135.5m in all foreign markets for a combined $192m.. Joker 2 made $4.3 m opening weekend on just 1,510 screens in Brazil, $5.9 million in China on opening weekend, $4.8 million in France on 930 screens and $5.7m in Germany on just 750 screens.

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I wouldn't say it's in the black or anywhere near it. It's production budget was 190m, but its actual break-even after marketing and distribution costs would be double that. And foreign revenues have a massive cut taken from the studios.
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SJEAg said:

I wouldn't say it's in the black or anywhere near it. It's production budget was 190m, but its actual break-even after marketing and distribution costs would be double that. And foreign revenues have a massive cut taken from the studios.
I was just paraphrasing what a Variety story said.
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Not really sure what we were expecting with FFC's "Megalopolis" but after two weeks at 1,854 theaters, it dropped to 227 two weeks ago, and on Monday it dropped to 75.

Other than a paycheck for Kylo Ren and Moff Gideon, was there a point to this movie?

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The Porkchop Express said:

SJEAg said:

I wouldn't say it's in the black or anywhere near it. It's production budget was 190m, but its actual break-even after marketing and distribution costs would be double that. And foreign revenues have a massive cut taken from the studios.
I was just paraphrasing what a Variety story said.
i have a hard time believing a Variety story could be THAT wrong, unless it was something they picked up from AP/Reuters.

Variety of all sources has a good grasp of box office implications and math.
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The Porkchop Express said:


Other than a paycheck for Kylo Ren and Moff Gideon, was there a point to this movie?


That FFC loves the smell of his own farts and is willing to leverage his personal fortune for extra whiffs.
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Gladiator II, Moana 2, and Wicked all releasing within five days of each other. Thanksgiving is going to be insane.
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As someone who has long championed Moana #1, the sequel doesn't look so great. It was originally intendeed to be a Disney+ series, they've invented a little sister for Moana out of thin air, and Lin-Manuel Miranda didn't do the music this time.

Wicked looks like the sleeping giant here to me, with the only downside being most people aren't aware it's only Part I of II, thus denying them their happy ending (although not really) in the theater.

I haven't seen many musicals, but it's easily the 2nd best I've seen after Phantom of the Opera. Its rewatchability and PG rating might have it pull a Titanic effect especially being released in the holiday season.
Read somewhere it had the 2nd largest advanced ticket sales this year behind only Deadpool & Wolverine, and stars a huge pop star, plus Cynthia Erivo, who is already famous, but is probably going to blow up after this.

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Why is Cynthia Erivo melting down and starting fights with her fans and Wicked fans ahead of this release?



It was simply a fan of Wicked creating an edit of the original Broadway poster than included her as she is in the movie. Call it an honor os simply ignore it but don't play some victim card and call it "the most offensive thing you have ever seen".

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Talk about an overreaction.

This is her ever so slightly softening that reaction recently.

"I'm passionate about it and I know the fans are passionate about it and I think for me it was just like a human moment of wanting to protect little Elphaba, and it was like a human moment," she said. "I probably should have called my friends, but it's fine."
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Do you mind starting a Wicked thread or moving this somewhere else? I'd love for this thread to stay just about BO predictions and # reporting.
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I posted it here because it is certainly relevant to box office. I think Wicked will do fantastic (one of the top performers of the year), but knock a couple % off of what it might have done when a star needlessly attacks fans of the story.

Not much left to add here on this story from my perspective on box office unless you want to continue the discussion.
 
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