*** OBI-WAN KENOBI *** (Disney+ Series)

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When Kenobi tells Leia that she reminds him of someone...
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Garrelli 5000 said:

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Garrelli 5000 said:

Compared to the other Disney SW series. This is horrible. Is it Intentional? Tribute to Lucas?

I don't know what it the most awful - the acting, screenplay, or directing v

Phantom menace is smiling. Post Jedi Lucas was blasted for how bad it was but the history made it endure. If this is purposely a throwback to the "good old days" pretending phantom menace was worth repeating…episodes one and most of two were justifiably panned at the time. You're fooling yourselves if you suddenly think they needed to be repeated.

This is dog *****


Wow. So much to unpack here. From the anger out of nowhere to the freezing cold take.

Your opinion is bad; and you should feel bad.




Glad the posts that follow agreed.

Bad acting, writing, and directing.

Sorry your Santa isn't real.


Some fans just badly want anything Star Wars to be good, to the point that they lower their standard reeeeaaaaaally low. Truth is that everything made after the original trilogy has been as much miss as hit. Not ruling Kenobi out already but yeah episode 1 was disappointing for sure.
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Teacher_Ag said:

Garrelli 5000 said:

BenFiasco14 said:

Garrelli 5000 said:

Compared to the other Disney SW series. This is horrible. Is it Intentional? Tribute to Lucas?

I don't know what it the most awful - the acting, screenplay, or directing v

Phantom menace is smiling. Post Jedi Lucas was blasted for how bad it was but the history made it endure. If this is purposely a throwback to the "good old days" pretending phantom menace was worth repeating…episodes one and most of two were justifiably panned at the time. You're fooling yourselves if you suddenly think they needed to be repeated.

This is dog *****


Wow. So much to unpack here. From the anger out of nowhere to the freezing cold take.

Your opinion is bad; and you should feel bad.




Glad the posts that follow agreed.

Bad acting, writing, and directing.

Sorry your Santa isn't real.


Some fans just badly want anything Star Wars to be good, to the point that they lower their standard reeeeaaaaaally low. Truth is that everything made after the original trilogy has been as much miss as hit. Not ruling Kenobi out already but yeah episode 1 was disappointing for sure.
Good of you guys to make sure to continually remind them that they can't enjoy something you think is bad, then.
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Teacher_Ag said:

It isn't about what she can sense, it's about shows/movies that write dialogue where kids who look 8 speak like college students with an instant, witty, over the top response. It reminds me of the youngest daughter from 7th Heaven who solved all over her families problems. It's just corny writing.


Everything about young Leia reminded me of young Spock at the Vulcan science academy for youths or whatever it was. When the other kid taunts him for having a human mother and he comes back with his intelligent retort.

Her performance seemed to be modeled after that.
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Chase scene, especially the forest one, was bad. Just have her get captured and move on with it.
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Y'all can for sure enjoy whatever. I'm bummed because I wanted to enjoy it more but the production value is just poor so far. There are enough redeeming qualities to keep me invested, just hope it gets better.
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FTR, I'm not ruling this show as a failure. It just had some F- scenes and directing in it. Still looking forward to the rest of it.

Overall though, the Star Wars film universe has been a mixed bag since the OT. The best things they've done are R1 and Mandalorian and then there is a fall off from there. This show could still end up near the top if they make me forget Leia running.

I haven't seen a female running scandal like this since Brie Larson in Captain Marvel.

I'll shut up about this now. Lol.
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I dug it and look forward to the rest.


Minor gripes:
The meat mining was strange.
surprised that he wasn't buster for stealing meat.
The Micheal Scott quality parkour
The quality of the grand inquisitor appearance

Liked: pretty much everything else.
The grand inquisitor was well written, well acted but I just didn't care for his visuals.


With regards to the 3rd sister and any kind of redemption. I fully expect that to happen, not due to Disney being woke but because redemption is what star wars is all about.
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It would have been good to have a scene where the Grand Inquisitor and the Asian Inquisitor are having a side conversation about not really digging the Third Sister's vibe but going way out of their way to point out that it isn't racist at all, just a reflection on her performance.
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I think the simple fact that Third Sister is/looks human is why they will redeem her. That was a calculated decision because we can relate to her. It's easy to write off the other three as evil and unredeemable because while humanoid they are alien looking and thus..."not real" and not relatable.

So, basically, Star Wars is racist against aliens.

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I kept waiting for him to get busted stealing a Krate Dragon steak. Isn't that what they are cutting up?
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Duncan Idaho said:


Minor gripes:
The meat mining was strange.



I like how when Star Wars wants to establish that an old hero is jaded and washed up they're going to have you doing something menial like milking walrusmen or carving meat out of a giant dead insect. They can never just be a space receptionist or insurance salesman like real jaded adults.
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I liked it overall. Wasn't as good as Mando but it held my attention and was fun.

I think the Third Sister is poorly acted. Any scene she's in is definitely the stuff I liked the least. Her running on the roof scene was cringey.

The forest chase scene with Leia was bad. Not sure how they thought that was fine.

Episode 2 ended in a cool way. Hoping Vader is done well. It was nostalgic seeing McGregor again.
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They should have made the Third Sister a Togruta. An anti-Ahsoka would have added depth to the character and further justified Obi Wan's PTSD.
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YouBet said:

I think the simple fact that Third Sister is/looks human is why they will redeem her. That was a calculated decision because we can relate to her. It's easy to write off the other three as evil and unredeemable because while humanoid they are alien looking and thus..."not real" and not relatable.

So, basically, Star Wars is racist against aliens.




After episode 1 there was an article asking "Is Star Wars/George Lucas racist?"

The villains that wanted the trade franchise were very unattractive and had a whole "Japanese sneakily planning Pearl Harbor" vibe.

Darth Maul - not a WASP human, so bad guy.

Jar Jar and all of the Gungans - Rastafarian vibe and not very intelligent.

The list goes on.

The article contended that only WASP-y characters with British accents were redeemable.

So far, it's holding true.
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Yep. When I rewatch 456 I see how heavy handed Lucas was w/corny dialogue and acting. That's fine though because I grew up w/it and didn't realize how Lucas writes until I was older.

I love what they did w/Rogue One, Mandalorian, Boba Fett, etc.

SW1 and SW2 were horrible because Lucas still directed and his style didn't translate to the times. 3 was his 'broken clock is right' moment but really only towards the end. The battle scene and wrapping up the transition for Anakin made it.

Fantastic looking for sure, as is Obi-Wan.

I just don't see how this director is supposed to be a 'savior'. Her Mando episodes were good, but this has erased that good will.

Reva can act, but you wouldn't know it from this show. Leia (adorable and her dialogue is great) is actually 10 but she looks and moves like 5 year old. The 5th brother looks like a constipated BD Wong birthing a 15lb turd. The inquisitors outfits look like trash bags w/a steering wheel strapped to their backs. And for F's sake as mentioned the roof scene....the Watchowski's called, they'd have given a good rate to tape Reva's face on Trinity's head and it still would have looked better.

FTR - i'll keep watching it. My wife will need to fall asleep first though.

Staff - take out the trash.
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YouBet said:

Watched first two episodes only.
suffer through the third one….

4th one is better but not great….

Then 5 and 6 holy balls of awesome sauce!

Then 7 to cap it off was ….

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Agree with the criticisms on the third sister. I thought she was the weakest part of the show. In fact, my girlfriend and I literally laughed out loud at a few of her one liners that were supposed to be "badass" or ominous. The delivery was flat and laughable.

I can look past it though - it's Disney, we're gonna have to deal with this stuff.

Grand Inquisitor I really liked actually - gave off KOTOR II Sith vibes.
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I forgot about the Leia forest scene. That was terrible.

I also love the fact that they got a Falleen in Flea's crew.

https://starwars.fandom.com/wiki/Xizor/Legends

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Teacher_Ag said:

Y'all can for sure enjoy whatever. I'm bummed because I wanted to enjoy it more but the production value is just poor so far. There are enough redeeming qualities to keep me invested, just hope it gets better.


Ewan's fantastic performance
Vader tease at the end of ep 2

If that doesn't do it...
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YouBet said:

I think the simple fact that Third Sister is/looks human is why they will redeem her. That was a calculated decision because we can relate to her. It's easy to write off the other three as evil and unredeemable because while humanoid they are alien looking and thus..."not real" and not relatable.

So, basically, Star Wars is racist against aliens.




Says hi, Master Yoda does.
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Watched it and thought it was meh outside of the lightsaber action. This show has too much Kathleen Kenedy influence I'm afraid. They rest of the show will likely be just as bad.
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FJB, FJB, FJB, etc
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YouBet said:

So, basically, Star Wars is racist against aliens.

Yeah, just think about all the hate thrown at Chewbacca over the decades.

And Admiral Ackbar.

And Ahsoka Tano.

And Yoda.
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Aggie87 said:

YouBet said:

So, basically, Star Wars is racist against aliens.

Yeah, just think about all the hate thrown at Chewbacca over the decades.

And Admiral Ackbar.

And Ahsoka Tano.

And Yoda.

Note my smiley face on original post.
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Maybe watch it with the generosity you admit you give to the original Star Wars and you won't throw such an epic hissy fit when the franchise hasn't radically changed into Dune.
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I think "epic hissy fit" is a little harsh. Maybe "Concerned Mandofan" is more appropriate.

Staff - take out the trash.
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Confused on the grand inquisitors death. Maybe not dead or else they are messing up canon?
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Dro07 said:

Confused on the grand inquisitors death. Maybe not dead or else they are messing up canon?


Darth Maul was cut in half and lived. I bet he is fine.
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Dro07 said:

Confused on the grand inquisitors death. Maybe not dead or else they are messing up canon?
Was stated previously he can't be dead if it's same GI from Rebels because that then screws up the timeline. So he's either not really dead or it's not the same GI.
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I was literally laughing out loud during the "chase" scene. That was bad.
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Teacher_Ag said:

Duncan Idaho said:


Minor gripes:
The meat mining was strange.



I like how when Star Wars wants to establish that an old hero is jaded and washed up they're going to have you doing something menial like milking walrusmen or carving meat out of a giant dead insect. They can never just be a space receptionist or insurance salesman like real jaded adults.
Should have opened with Kenobi running a Cinnabon at the mall in Mos Eisley.
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Finally caught up and I'm amazed at the amount of time we've already wasted in this show.
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I hear your complaint, but isn't it kind of exciting that we've gotten all the setup out of the way, and almost all of the trailer shots have already been seen?

I think it's gonna really kick into high gear from here. I also wouldn't be surprised if we see Leia returned to Alderaan by next episode and that thread is resolved. I don't think she'll factor into the meat of the season going forward.
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YouBet said:

Dro07 said:

Confused on the grand inquisitors death. Maybe not dead or else they are messing up canon?
Was stated previously he can't be dead if it's same GI from Rebels because that then screws up the timeline. So he's either not really dead or it's not the same GI.


Fennec Shand got hit with a blaster beam at point blank. In the Dune Sea. Left for dead.

She's aight now.
 
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