*** JAMES BOND : NO TIME TO DIE ***

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Brian Earl Spilner said:

Daniel Radcliffe for Q.

I can easily get behind this. Radcliffe has been hilarious in the Miracle Workers series.
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I loved this movie. I would actually put this behind Casino Royale. Then Quantum, Skyfall and Spectre (I know most will have this in the middle after Skyfall as 2nd. Skyfall is beautiful but I think it's very superficial IMO. Lots of MSG.) It was beautifully shot and the writing I thought was so much better this movie, the best we have seen since Casino.

This was an homage to the old bonds in every way. From the OHMSS scores, to the intro with the Dr. No-like graphics, to the garden of death from You Only Live Twice Fleming books. Even the Ken Adams-like set at the end. As mentioned by others, this was also a beautifully shot movie. The scene with Bond fighting up the stairs was outstanding.

At the end of the movie, I just sat there, thinking, 'Bond can't die. The nerve of the writers and ***unaga. They kill Felix, Blofeld and Bond all in one movie?!' But then I start thinking, what else could they have done to make it better writing wise? The Blofeld story line fell flat on its face in Spectre, and they had to clean up that mess. The Waltz Spectre thing just did not work. Jeffrey Wright is great but he's getting old too. I'm not sure what direction they should have gone in.

I'm honestly okay with them wrapping it up in this way because in the end, I think Craig brought a human side to this role that no other Bond before (maybe Lazenby?) has brought.

As I mentioned earlier, I think they should have waited for the introduction of Spectre post-Craig. So a two-movie Spectre arc is a little disappointing.

But I can be on board for a 'act like nothing happened' outlook, keeping the Craig arc out of the franchise going forward. Just please don't make a Naomi movie or a Bond universe please.
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Enzo The Baker said:

I loved this movie. I would actually put this behind Casino Royale. Then Quantum, Skyfall and Spectre (I know most will have this in the middle after Skyfall as 2nd. Skyfall is beautiful but I think it's very superficial IMO. Lots of MSG.) It was beautifully shot and the writing I thought was so much better this movie, the best we have seen since Casino.

This was an homage to the old bonds in every way. From the OHMSS scores, to the intro with the Dr. No-like graphics, to the garden of death from You Only Live Twice Fleming books. Even the Ken Adams-like set at the end. As mentioned by others, this was also a beautifully shot movie. The scene with Bond fighting up the stairs was outstanding.

At the end of the movie, I just sat there, thinking, 'Bond can't die. The nerve of the writers and ***unaga. They kill Felix, Blofeld and Bond all in one movie?!' But then I start thinking, what else could they have done to make it better writing wise? The Blofeld story line fell flat on its face in Spectre, and they had to clean up that mess. The Waltz Spectre thing just did not work. Jeffrey Wright is great but he's getting old too. I'm not sure what direction they should have gone in.

I'm honestly okay with them wrapping it up in this way because in the end, I think Craig brought a human side to this role that no other Bond before (maybe Lazenby?) has brought.

As I mentioned earlier, I think they should have waited for the introduction of Spectre post-Craig. So a two-movie Spectre arc is a little disappointing.

But I can be on board for a 'act like nothing happened' outlook, keeping the Craig arc out of the franchise going forward. Just please don't make a Naomi movie or a Bond universe please.

Roger Moore or Pierce Brosnan's writers would have had the explosion from the missiles blow James Bond into the ocean, where his watch has an inflatable raft that cushions his fall and lets him survive and the nanobots are burned off by the missile fire, but protect his skin from burns
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Great to hear. Not having read your spoiler text yet, this is how I'm *hoping* I feel, and the exact rank I anticipate having. Finally seeing it for myself tomorrow at 2:30...
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Really good. I will echo most, it's behind CR and Skyfall but ahead of the other two. Got me hard in the feels like I wasn't expecting. A little messy on a couple storylines but I chalk that up to them cleaning up the mess from Spectre. Craig solidifies himself as the best Bond to me , just ahead of Sir Sean.
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The foggy forest scene and the tight stairway scenes were AMAZING


It wasn't flawless, but it was a great end to the Daniel Craig films.

Biggest complaint: Ana de Armas wasn't in it more.
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Is this one worth it to see in IMAX?
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Aggie_Boomin 21 said:

Is this one worth it to see in IMAX?
Yes.
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Thought it was aight! IMO it's far better when wrapping up Spectre than after. When Malek starts showing up, it loses steam. He's underwritten and had poor motivations. I have many, many questions about his character.
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Saw it today. Good movie. Agree that Ana should have been in it more.

Who will be the next 007?
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Nobody knows, but I believe they've started looking
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Just checking in to mention TCTTS missed both the opening night of this movie, and A&M beating Bama at Kyle.

That is all.
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My dad has already given me so much sh*t. Just a complete and utter whiff on my part in terms of incredible things I was supposed to attend this weekend but didn't.
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I loved the entire movie, right up until they freaking killed off James Bond. I'm sorry, you don't kill off James Bond, arc or no arc. It's one thing to reboot with the current Q, M, and Moneypenny (who are all fantastic) with a new actor as Bond when he completes the mission and rides off into the sunset, it's another when he gets incinerated by a missile and all said characters are onscreen toasting his memory at the end. It's stupid, you don't kill James Bond. He doesn't have time to die.

Edit: Also, the Aggies surviving against Bama and Bond not surviving a mission? What kind of backwards bizarro world am I living in?!?!

Other than that, movie was fantastic!
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Hey, I'm sure there are many other Ags right there with you. I'm one of them. But, this extends my streak of games that I was so certain that A&M had zero chance of winning, and I did other things before getting back to the very end of the game to find that I was 100% wrong. (1984's tu game, I went to see Supergirl, 2014's Auburn game, I went to see Interstellar, and last night the wife and I watched 3 or 4 episodes of The Americans). Then while looking for something else, I opened up Paramount+ and lo-and-behold, they had the game live. So got to see the final 2 minutes. (I have Dish Network, which is currently having a pissing contest with CBS, so no CBS affiliate and do not currently have an antenna connected to my TV).
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Does he have time to bleed?
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Brian Earl Spilner said:

Just checking in to mention TCTTS missed both the opening night of this movie, and A&M beating Bama at Kyle.

That is all.

It was the AGGIEST thing that could have happened…lose to the stinking pigs and cow bell bangers but beat #1
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Maybe it's because I'm too young to have watched or cared about the old Bond flicks or maybe it's because I'm not a big enough Bond fan or something but I was totally ok with the decision kill Bond off at the end. It actually makes more sense than to have him live and end with a corny scene of him chilling somewhere. Not that this movie is trying to be super realistic, but real special agents etc DO die in the field sometimes. It means a lot to the future Bond and his (her?) associates that he went out like a G.
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Let's do this…

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Do I need to do a full Craig rewatch before seeing this? I've seen Casino in the last year but none of the others since they came out. It would obviously be ideal. Just wondering if I'm going to miss some callbacks or plot lines.
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YouBet said:

Do I need to do a full Craig rewatch before seeing this? I've seen Casino in the last year but none of the others since they came out. It would obviously be ideal. Just wondering if I'm going to miss some callbacks or plot lines.
It definitely has story lines that are from throughout the Craig movies as well as some classics like OHMSS.
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Guitarsoup said:

YouBet said:

Do I need to do a full Craig rewatch before seeing this? I've seen Casino in the last year but none of the others since they came out. It would obviously be ideal. Just wondering if I'm going to miss some callbacks or plot lines.
It definitely has story lines that are from throughout the Craig movies as well as some classics like OHMSS.


Yeah, I haven't seen that....maybe ever. Don't recall.
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YouBet said:

Guitarsoup said:

YouBet said:

Do I need to do a full Craig rewatch before seeing this? I've seen Casino in the last year but none of the others since they came out. It would obviously be ideal. Just wondering if I'm going to miss some callbacks or plot lines.
It definitely has story lines that are from throughout the Craig movies as well as some classics like OHMSS.


Yeah, I haven't seen that....maybe ever. Don't recall.
It's a top ten Bond movie. See that for sure before you watch this.
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Guitarsoup said:

YouBet said:

Guitarsoup said:

YouBet said:

Do I need to do a full Craig rewatch before seeing this? I've seen Casino in the last year but none of the others since they came out. It would obviously be ideal. Just wondering if I'm going to miss some callbacks or plot lines.
It definitely has story lines that are from throughout the Craig movies as well as some classics like OHMSS.


Yeah, I haven't seen that....maybe ever. Don't recall.
It's a top ten Bond movie. See that for sure before you watch this.


Good to know. Thanks.
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Ana de Armas was hot AF in this. Was a fun movie but solid middle of the pack for me.

Casino Royale
Skyfall
No Time to Die
Spectre
Quantum of Solace
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I felt there were too many elements of MI2 in this one. Having James infected with a nanobot that would prevent him from ever touching his woman and daughter was a lazy setup for "he has nothing to live for now".
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Cromagnum said:

I felt there were too many elements of MI2 in this one. Having James infected with a nanobot that would prevent him from ever touching his woman and daughter was a lazy setup for "he has nothing to live for now".


with the way the nanobots were described, his blown up bits would enter the food chain through some tuna, eaten as sushi by some Japanese guy, and slowly pass around the world from person to person until it reaches and kills them anyway…
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YouBet said:

Guitarsoup said:

YouBet said:

Guitarsoup said:

YouBet said:

Do I need to do a full Craig rewatch before seeing this? I've seen Casino in the last year but none of the others since they came out. It would obviously be ideal. Just wondering if I'm going to miss some callbacks or plot lines.
It definitely has story lines that are from throughout the Craig movies as well as some classics like OHMSS.


Yeah, I haven't seen that....maybe ever. Don't recall.
It's a top ten Bond movie. See that for sure before you watch this.


Good to know. Thanks.
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Absolutely loved it.

Most fun/badass entry to date.

Most emotional entry to date.

Best score to date.

Second best Bond theme/song to date.

And the best Craig has been to date.

That said, I agree with two minor critiques...

- Yeah, I also expected Lashana Lynch's Nomi/007 to be a bit more of a badass. I liked her personality/swagger, but she never really did much in terms of kick ass action to back it up. That said, the F16ers who threw a hissy fit about her inclusion way back when will never return to admit as much, but they should be eating crow right about now, just as I and others said they would. Her giving the 007 monicker back to Bond was such a cool moment, and yet another exercise in not prematurely griping about fake woke nonsense as a means to soapbox on this board.

- Safin letting Mathilde go after she bit him was, indeed, weird, as it seemed like maybe he had grand plans for her? Though, she had already served her immediate purpose to him, so I can also see him just being like "whatever" in that moment. Overall, it didn't bother me too much.


Otherwise, this was my favorite Craig entry yet. Loved the story, loved the action, loved the set pieces, loved the way it was all shot. There might be aspects of other Craig entries I like more, but as a whole, I thought this was the most complete and fulfilling Bond movie, beginning to end.

As of now, my current rankings...

1. No Time to Die
2. First 3/4 of Spectre
3. Skyfall
4. Casino Royale
5. Quantum of Solace
6. Last 1/4 of Spectre

As for the future of the franchise, I never once considered that any of this cast would appear in their respective roles again after this entry. I know Dench was in a Brosnan movie or two, but with the uber-connected way this iteration of the franchise was being told, it always felt like its own, contained thing. Especially considering Amazon just bought MGM, and thus the Bond franchise, they're no doubt going to work with Eon to start from scratch again and almost assuredly create an all-new Bond universe, with an all new cast, maybe even across both film and television, under the Amazon umbrella. Knowing all that, I was completely fine with Bond's death, and almost found it necessary going forward.
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Forgot to mention how great it was to be back in an IMAX theater for a huge blockbuster. Realized I hadn't done so since December 2019 for The Rise of Skywalker. The entire theater cheered at both the beginning and the end of the Top Gun: Maverick trailer, and then at the end of the of the Dune trailer (which got the longest applause, surprisingly/encouragingly). Then they cheered at the MGM logo/Bond theme at the beginning of the movie, and then again toward the end of the movie when Bond does the brief barrel/gun pose down that corridor. I know certain Debbie Downers here can't stand movie theater cheering/applauding, but whatever. It was so damn fun, and I can't wait to go back in less than two weeks for Dune.
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TCTTS said:

Forgot to mention how great it was to be back in an IMAX theater for a huge blockbuster. Realized I hadn't done so since December 2019 for The Rise of Skywalker. The entire theater cheered at both the beginning and the end of the Top Gun: Maverick trailer, and then at the end of the of the Dune trailer (which got the longest applause, surprisingly/encouragingly). Then they cheered at the MGM logo/Bond theme at the beginning of the movie, and then again toward the end of the movie when Bond does the brief barrel/gun pose down that corridor. I know certain Debbie Downers here can't stand movie theater cheering/applauding, but whatever. It was so damn fun, and I can't wait to go back in less than two weeks for Dune.
For cheering in movie theaters, it needs to be appropriate to the moment. Cheering at major or iconic moments is fine and can actually enhance the viewing experience - you're sharing a sense of excitement with the other theatergoers. For example, cheering in Endgame when Cap picks up the hammer or when the Avengers assemble is great. Cheering every time Ant Man is on the screen would probably be a bit much, though.
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Then they cheered at the MGM logo/Bond theme at the beginning of the movie, and then again toward the end of the movie when Bond does the brief barrel/gun pose down that corridor.
There was a group of 4 guys next to me that were kind of cheering at all the big moments like this one, the Aston Martin scene at the beginning, basically any time Bond did something cool.
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Brian Earl Spilner said:

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Then they cheered at the MGM logo/Bond theme at the beginning of the movie, and then again toward the end of the movie when Bond does the brief barrel/gun pose down that corridor.
There was a group of 4 guys next to me that were kind of cheering at all the big moments like this one, the Aston Martin scene at the beginning, basically any time Bond did something cool.
Did you watch it in Atlanta?
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I drove a Toyota Land Cruiser Prado for years, so i geeked the mess out when that popped up on screen for that off road chase scene. Pretty rare for a regular guy see Bond to go nuts in something they get to drive on a regular basis. My buddies were polite and didn't tell me to shut up while I kept yelling "GO PRADO GO!"
 
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