Tickets for 7:00 pm tonight in IMAX at the AMC. Looking forward to it. Rewatched the Craig movies and landed with this as my final rankings. Feel free to yell about it. Hoping NTTD slides into the Top 10.

Solid rankings. I think you have Moonraker too high and For Your Eyes Only too low, but not much to quibble about there.

I think your top 5 is perfect.

Just got back from the theater, my buddy hated it but I think I liked it. Gorgeous movie, cool stunts and ideas though out. Maybe a bit too much going on, one or two too many characters to keep track of and figure out who was where doing what, but that's a minor quibble. Loved the opening credits.

The 14-18 range is pretty close score wise. I enjoy the ridiculousness of Moonraker but also appreciate how grounded FYEO feels, and how it kind of reminds me more of an Indiana Jones style adventure as opposed to a straight up spy movie.

When FYEO came out everyone commented on it being more of a grounded Bond than where it had been trending through Moonraker. Then they went all stupid the other direction and doubled down with Octo***** with hollow crocodile submarines, spinning saw blades of death and clowns.

A solid third behind Skyfall and Casino to me. But I did have some minor issues...

I have to be honest, I'm still not clear on what precisely the villain's plan was. There was some vague talk about killing people and minimizing collateral damage, but beyond that, I really couldn't tell you. I guess just infect the whole world and be able to kill anyone at will?

I did feel the movie dragged a bit in parts. And there was really no big action setpiece other than the opening scene and the final gunfight. Although that was awesome seeing Craig's Bond have one final scene of just kicking ass. But, I guess I was hoping for some bigger action moments other than just gunfights.

Still a great watch in IMAX, though I was disappointed the only IMAX-shot stuff was only the pre-credits scenes.

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Tickets for 7:00 pm tonight in IMAX at the AMC. Looking forward to it. Rewatched the Craig movies and landed with this as my final rankings. Feel free to yell about it. Hoping NTTD slides into the Top 10.

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I know it's personal list but crapraker at 14…Yikes

So pissed. Traffic into Hollywood was so bad I missed my showtime. Left with plenty of time too. I was able to get a refund online once I knew for sure I wasn't going to make it, but still. Not able to go again until Sunday…

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No time to drive

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Enjoyed it quite a bit. Like every one else has said, it's 3rd behind Casino and Skyfall but a fairly satisfying end to Craig's arc.

It's not perfect by any means, the ending is super messy. You get the gist of what Safin is trying to do, but the whole last 30 minutes really just feels like a device to drive Bond and Madeleine towards a satisfying end. Which is fine, it just kind of makes you want more from it. Ana De Armas steels the show in her limited time, which is to be expected. Cast her in everything.

I think my biggest complaints from Spectre (Madeleine, Blofeld, and it's so long) were mostly addressed. I never felt the chemistry between Bond and Madeleine in Spectre, but it was much better here. Despite loving Waltz, hated his Blofeld in Spectre, but he was used well in this movie. It did feel a little long, but doesn't drag nearly as much as Spectre in my opinion.

Probably going to land in low 80s range score wise, which will probably put it at 10th in my rankings.

Spoiler thoughts below:

Loved the fight scenes, true there wasn't anything massive but it felt very raw and true to the semi-retired Bond we got in this movie. Frequently knocked down, ears ringing, winded, etc.

RIP to my man Felix. Legend.

I kept hoping Ana would show back up at the end. Alas, it was not meant to be.

Everyone who's ever seen OHMSS held their collective breath when Bond said "We have all the time in the world."

Bond calling Magnussen's character Book of Mormon got the biggest laugh from me.

Again, my biggest complaint is that the final act is SUPER messy. So much left unaddressed or rushed through. Why did Safin let his biggest bargaining chip go simply because she bit his finger? Why did they make such a big deal about "international disputes" of the island if they were just going to say "F*** it" and launch the missiles anyway? Who was on the ships headed to pick up the Herceles?

Feels like there was a lot left unexplored on the island and with Rami's character, because they really wanted to focus on Bond aging out and his relationship with Madeleine. Again, I enjoyed it. Just could have been better.

Edit to add: Music by Zimmer is great. Easy to see why they brought him into to do it. Master at weaving in different themes and was worth it just for that final emotional piece. Good stuff.

It was alright. Weak villain in my opinion. Distant 3rd in the Craig movies.

I do think this easily wins the "Best Bond villain lairs" contest going away.

Ok this was good.

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Music was the best of any of the Craig movies. Absolutely great. Zimmer is a master.

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Don't know where I'd rank it in the giant library of 007 movies, but let me tell you why I think that movie was well worth the wait and was fantastic: 1 - Hans Zimmer's score and 2 - a couple of things that one simply does not expect in a James Bond movie: Bond is unknowingly a dad and Bond's fate. There was so much emotion packed into that movie that it literally took me by surprise, given the previous entries in this series lack of emotion such as this.

Loved the action in this one. Loved the idea of a Bond coming out of retirement and looking like a guy who's been living the good life on an island somewhere, getting winded and looking like he is feeling all those punches. And the gal who portrays Madeleine is IMO the most drop-dead gorgeous woman I've seen in a 007 movie (and yeah, there have been quite a number of gorgeous gals in these movies).

I do hope in future 007 movies, that they retain the current M, Q, and Moneypenny.

Loved all the callbacks to OHMSS in the score and script. Really masterfully done. As a fan of OHMSS, I always felt that it never got the respect it deserved. This helps put some of that right.

I agree with what seems to be the consensus. I enjoyed the movie, loved the music, and am glad I saw it. That said, I agree with others that the backstory and the ending seemed underdeveloped.

In addition to getting some of the best cinematography and two of the best movies, Craig has had two of the best opening songs and some of the best opening sequences in the whole collection. Both You Know my Name and Skyfall are top 4 for me. Maybe top 3.

Kind of glad we are done with a Bond villain who looks like this



I hope the next one is someone a bit more terrifying

Man that was a lot of fun and just a really good action movie. Cinematography was great. I really enjoyed the music. I thought the action and shootouts were some of the best in Bond films.

I think I'll have issues with the ending just because Bond dieing is something I don't like. Just give me the campy, happy ending for once.. He's this larger than life spy and always seems to make it out of the impossible which I think people really like. Plus people just don't like to see their heroes die, even if it's in some incredibly heroic, saving the world and his family type of way. I'm for sure not going to go see Indiana Jones V now because after Luke Skywalker and James Bond, Indy is my next big hero and Hollywood is probably gonna take him out next lol

I'll be interested to see where they go next. I said it in a previous post, but only Craig's films have some real continuity to them and in today's society of cinematic universes, casual fans will expect an explanation of why there is another Bond film after this.

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Man that was a lot of fun and just a really good action movie. Cinematography was great. I really enjoyed the music. I thought the action and shootouts were some of the best in Bond films.

I think I'll have issues with the ending just because Bond dieing is something I don't like. Just give me the campy, happy ending for once.. He's this larger than life spy and always seems to make it out of the impossible which I think people really like. Plus people just don't like to see their heroes die, even if it's in some incredibly heroic, saving the world and his family type of way. I'm for sure not going to go see Indiana Jones V now because after Luke Skywalker and James Bond, Indy is my next big hero and Hollywood is probably gonna take him out next lol

I'll be interested to see where they go next. I said it in a previous post, but only Craig's films have some real continuity to them and in today's society of cinematic universes, they'll expect an explanation of why there is another Bond film after this.

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still better than the Dark Knight Rises trash ending

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You can't kill off James Bond and then bring in a new actor to portray him and have any of the previous characters return, right after they had a drink to his memory. It doesn't make any sense. It worked with Dame Judy Dench as M coming from the Brosnan movies because they just had her being introduced to this new loose-cannon 00 agent named James Bond.

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They can do exactly that, because it doesn't make any sense whatsoever to have Desmond Llewelyn play Q for Connery, Moore, Dalton, Brosnan, and Lazenby. Dame Judy Dench played M for Brosnan and Craig. Lois Maxwell played Miss Moneypenny for Lazenby, Connery, and Moore. There is no reason that they have to replace those people unless they just decide they want to do so.

I agree, but to be fair there's an entire generation whose only ever known Bond movies to exist as sequels in the same universe.

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You can't kill off James Bond and then bring in a new actor to portray him and have any of the previous characters return, right after they had a drink to his memory. It doesn't make any sense. It worked with Dame Judy Dench as M coming from the Brosnan movies because they just had her being introduced to this new loose-cannon 00 agent named James Bond.

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They can do exactly that, because it doesn't make any sense whatsoever to have Desmond Llewelyn play Q for Connery, Moore, Dalton, Brosnan, and Lazenby. Dame Judy Dench played M for Brosnan and Craig. Lois Maxwell played Miss Moneypenny for Lazenby, Connery, and Moore. There is no reason that they have to replace those people unless they just decide they want to do so.

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But, for the first time, Bond DIED. The new Bond will either have to be newly introduced to these MI6 members (ala Craig), or just ease him in and pretend this new Bond was always there (like Moore and Dalton). Both scenarios will be awkward seeing as how they all just buried Craig's Bond. And what about his daughter? Will they keep her in this new canon or forget she exists?

[Edit] I guess a third option would be to do what they did when they brought in Brosnan: pretend Brosnan was always Bond, bring in a new cast and have them be the replacements for the old regime. Dench's M was taking over from the old one and knew of Bond's reputation. In this way, they rebooted the entire cast, yet were able to explain away the changes in a way that made sense and continued the franchise.

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You can't kill off James Bond and then bring in a new actor to portray him and have any of the previous characters return, right after they had a drink to his memory. It doesn't make any sense. It worked with Dame Judy Dench as M coming from the Brosnan movies because they just had her being introduced to this new loose-cannon 00 agent named James Bond.

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They can do exactly that, because it doesn't make any sense whatsoever to have Desmond Llewelyn play Q for Connery, Moore, Dalton, Brosnan, and Lazenby. Dame Judy Dench played M for Brosnan and Craig. Lois Maxwell played Miss Moneypenny for Lazenby, Connery, and Moore. There is no reason that they have to replace those people unless they just decide they want to do so.

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But, for the first time, Bond DIED. The new Bond will either have to be newly introduced to these MI6 members (ala Craig), or just ease him in and pretend this new Bond was always there (like Moore and Dalton). Both scenarios will be awkward seeing as how they all just buried Craig's Bond. And what about his daughter? Will they keep her in this new canon or forget she exists?

[Edit] I guess a third option would be to do what they did when they brought in Brosnan: pretend Brosnan was always Bond, bring in a new cast and have them be the replacements for the old regime. Dench's M was taking over from the old one and knew of Bond's reputation. In this way, they rebooted the entire cast, yet were able to explain away the changes in a way that made sense and continued the franchise.

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Don't care that Bond died. It is just as weird for Q to call 4 different people James Bond as for Fiennes to call Craig's replacement Bond or Judy Dench to call Craig Bond after working with Brosnan.

It will be a whole new thing, I just hope they don't go campy to get away from the gritty Craig feel.

While I like the current Moneypenny, Q, and M, I don't think any of them are irreplaceable.

Kenneth Branagh, Colin Firth (unlikely since he is in Kingsmen) or Gary Oldman could make a great M. Eddie Redmayne as Q. I'm sure if we thought about it, we could come up with a lot more.

Daniel Radcliffe for Q.