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Sheep.
The "journalists" that feed us shows like this and serial do so without being objective. They get you to buy into some greater conspiracy bc you want to believe there is more to it then what really is.

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it's entertainment...not journalism, litigation or anything else someone may purport it to be.

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Here is Colborn calling in the plates.

Listen closely to the background right after the dispatcher says "Teresa Halbach" at 58s. I started it at 50s.

It was much clearer to me when I turned it up and put my headphones on than with my computer speakers.

What do you think the person in the background is saying?

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I can't hear squat...

Oh buddy.

Thanks for killing my afternoon with research on this guy now. This is insane!

the only part that is even close to discernable is the first out of about 3 or 4 noises in the background, and it sounds like "right here," but that's a guess with not much certainty

But I also can't tell if it's Colborn's background or the dispatcher's.

Why would he be calling in a plate before her car was discovered in the first place?

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Why would he be calling in a plate before her car was discovered in the first place?

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1. He found the car at another location and moved it to the Avery Salvage Yard
2. He was illegally searching Avery Salvage Yard and found it. Needed a legal way to discover it to get it into evidence so says he didn't find it.
3. I can't think of any other reason.
4. Profit.

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I know everyone is coming out with their own theories and everything but this has to be the craziest thing I've seen yet....



The same lawyer who represented the guys victims is now representing Steven Avery

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Why would he be calling in a plate before her car was discovered in the first place?

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He was doing it for the same reason Steven Avery asked specifically for Teresa Halbach. No one really knows for sure, but they'll come up with a motive to fit their own version of what happened.

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Why would he be calling in a plate before her car was discovered in the first place?

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He was doing it for the same reason Steven Avery asked specifically for Teresa Halbach. No one really knows for sure, but they'll come up with a motive to fit their own version of what happened.

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But can you think of any scenario other than:

1. discovered it on the third, but he wasn't supposed to be where he discovered it
or
2. discovered it on the third, thought Avery was probably guilty and wanted to move it to make it more incriminating to Avery?

If Avery or someone else committed the murder, #1 is very likely.

The easy lie would have been "I had a plate number written down on a piece of paper, I couldn't remember why. So I called dispatch to see what it was. I then realized it was the '99 Rav 4 we were told to look out for in the missing persons case"

Anyone could have come up with that lie on the spot except this dumb dumb.

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Why would he be calling in a plate before her car was discovered in the first place?

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He was doing it for the same reason Steven Avery asked specifically for Teresa Halbach. No one really knows for sure, but they'll come up with a motive to fit their own version of what happened.

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But can you think of any scenario other than:

1. discovered it on the third, but he wasn't supposed to be where he discovered it
or
2. discovered it on the third, thought Avery was probably guilty and wanted to move it to make it more incriminating to Avery?

If Avery or someone else committed the murder, #1 is very likely.

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I can think of other scenarios as well. Perhaps he was cleaning up some notes in his car and found this LP on some random papers and called it in to make sure he knew what it was? Or maybe he really was looking at the car when he called it in? This event is certainly suspicious, but at this point the only thing you have to go on is Colburn's word (which isn't very credible IMO). As suspicious as it is, it pales in comparison to all the circumstances that lead to Lenk being the person that found so much key physical evidence that no one else ever found.

Colborn also had a year to come up with a reason why he was calling in the plate and still couldn't.

if he wrote it down on a notepad (after a briefing of "hey this girl is missing, this is her license plate #") then why not just say that while on the stand? Instead he gets this deer-in-the-headlights look.

Remember this is the same guy that filed a report 8 years late during Avery's first wrongful conviction in the 1985 rape case.

Reddit crowdfunded about 3k to get all his court transcripts and evidence from his trial and will upload it to this website.

http://www.stevenaverycase.org/

I bet they find the killer even quicker than they found the Boston Marathon Bombers.

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The easy lie would have been "I had a plate number written down on a piece of paper, I couldn't remember why. So I called dispatch to see what it was. I then realized it was the '99 Rav 4 we were told to look out for in the missing persons case"

Anyone could have come up with that lie on the spot except this dumb dumb.

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Yeah, you would think that if he was going to go through all of the trouble to plant evidence and lie about finding the car, it would have been no big deal to just make up another lie about why he called it in. Strange that he didn't. I mean if he found Theresas car, it seems like he would have definitely remembered that and remembered that he called it in and known he needed to lie about the call, or at least known he needed to lie about it when he was confronted with the call on the stand with some BS explanation. Instead he just says he doesn't remember it, which he probably wouldn't remember it if he was just calling it in to confirm he was giving out the correct plate numbers to be searching for.



Note: My phone autocorrected a misspelling of Theresas to Theresome which isn't even a word and highly inappropriate given Brendan Dasseys made up story.

Just finished it, very well done for what it was, an advocate piece for the Avery's. I have to think there is something we are not being shown because it seems that at least Brendan should have gotten a new trial with his incompetent lawyer that allowed him to be interrogated without being there, the crying investigator and Brendan's obvious low intellect. Sure the original judge might have ruled against a new trial but why did the Appeals and the Supremes shoot him down too. If the case were presented like the documentary shows, they would have a hard time shooting him down, unless there is something else. Appeals and Supremes would not have been part of the Manitowac "conspiracy."

http://uproxx.com/tv/making-a-murderer-edward-wayne-edwards/


The Youtube video was already posted in this thread, but apparently this theory is gaining more traction.

SIAP but.....

Jodi interview to where she basically accuses Avery of doing it. Completely different testimony from what we were given in the documentary.

Avery's new attorney says the body couldn't have been burned in his pit.

And that it wasn't sweat DNA because there is no DNA in sweat.

I can't wait to see what Zellner comes up with.

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http://uproxx.com/tv/making-a-murderer-edward-wayne-edwards/


The Youtube video was already posted in this thread, but apparently this theory is gaining more traction.

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It is very interesting and it would certainly match some other things that Edwards confessed to. But that guy's website is all over the place. He wants to pin the Black Dahlia murder in 1947 on Edwards as well as the Jon Benet Ramsey murder, the West Memphis Three and the Zodiac Killers all on Edwards. That's really, really far out there. Old fat Edwards wasn't sliding in the basement window of the Ramsey house to kill JBR. I don't think 13 year old Edwards committed the Black Dahlia murder, slicing her in freaking half.

There may be some truth to it, but I don't think that everything Coleman wants to pin on Edwards is feasible.

Yeah, that list kind brings doubt to his credibility...

Surprised he left the JFK assassination off the list!

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Yeah, that list kind brings doubt to his credibility...

Surprised he left the JFK assassination off the list!

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Everyone knows that male models killed Kennedy:

Yea that guy is a lunatic, but the theory has credibility if they can somehow prove that it's the serial killer in the background of the documentary.

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Yea that guy is a lunatic, but the theory has credibility if they can somehow prove that it's the serial killer in the background of the documentary.

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it's most likely Avery's dad.

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Deeper in this "Cold Case Cameron" guy's website:

http://coldcasecameron.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/02/Coleman-Case-Review-Final-Sanitzed-September-18-2015.pdf

He believes that Edward Wayne Edwards committed:

• Lipstick Killers at age 12
• Black Dahlia at age 13
• Sam Sheppard's wife's murder (The Fugitive)
• Jimmy Hoffa
• Zodiac Killings
• Adam Walsh (son of John Walsh from America's Most Wanted)
• West Memphis Three
• Jon-Benet Ramsey
• Chandra Levy
• Lacy Peterson
• Teresa Halbach
• Coleman Family Murders

I'm thinking that Edwards may not have committed every unsolved murder in US history.

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Anyone notice the irony that the Manitowoc County cops who blame every unsolved crime on their favorite perp, Steve Avery, are being challenged by John Cameron, who blames every unsolved murder on his favorite perp, Ed Edwards?

So, would the scenario be that Edwards stalked Avery's place on Halloween waiting for somebody to show up and Teresa happened to be that unfortunate person? So he killed her in the afternoon and then did what? Continued to stalk the Avery place all night and saw that he was burning stuff, and so he decided to burn her himself and plant the bones later? Wouldn't he have then planted the car himself? Then that wouldn't explain why Colburn called in her plates early. If he ran into her car on Avery's lot, then I would think he would have just reported finding it there.