https://t.co/JSYLPyWfvV

Brendan's full confession transcript if anyone is interested.

This is not necessarily what I believe happened, but here's a conspiracy theory for ya:

Teresa's ex-boyfriend is jealous of Teresa's roommate. Knows about the Avery issues/lawsuit, and that Teresa makes somewhat regular trips out there for Autotrader. Maybe brings Teresa's brother into the fold for insurance? (Did Teresa have a life insurance policy, and was the brother a beneficiary?) Can also get money from Colburn & Lenk which could be another motive. The ex-bf knows Colburn or someone in the sherrif's dept. The next time Teresa goes out to the Avery's, the ex-bf intercepts her upon leaving, kills her, leaves her hidden somewhere, and notifies Colburn / Lenk. Over the next couple of days, the body is burned and the car is transported to the Avery property with some planted blood. Also, voicemails to Teresa from the ex are deleted. These are repeated calls to get Teresa's location, etc. Could have also been the ex that kept calling Teresa per her co-worker's testimony, constantly checking on her schedule and whereabouts...would have definitely been annoying to Teresa. Teresa is then reported missing, and the search centers around the Avery compound. The ex's relationship with the sherrif's dept would explain why he is so quickly put in charge of the amateur search committee. During the first day or two of the 8 day Avery compound search, the bones are dumped on the property under the darkness of night. There are too many bones, and they don't wanna make it too obvious (why would have not been seen during the first day of searching, right!) so some bones are dumped in the quarry a few miles away. The investigation continues, and Colburn & Lenk panic a little, thinking they need to add some more evidence, hence the key with only Steve's DNA, and the bullet with Teresa's DNA.

A little crazy, but not completely far fetched. Especially in this story, which already has a lot of seemingly unbelievable happenings.

Just saw the post on the previous page from the ex-borfriend's co-worker. Adds a little fuel to my conspiracy theory fire.

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No bus driver I ever had was as good looking at that bus driver,

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I was thinking the same thing. Especially rare for that part of the country

If I had to guess, I'd say the ex bf is the murderer. The scratches on his hand, guessing her password and having access to her phone records, his lack of credibility on the witness stand, his co-worker testimony on the previous page, etc all point to him.

He was also never asked to provide an alibi and he was interviewed by police with the roommate, not in separate rooms individually.

@0Hour1: Woah this getting more ****ed up by the minute #MakingAMurderer Her 2nd Appointment WTF........... http://twitter.com/0Hour1/status/682291853614538752/photo/1

Re: above post, Teresa's 2nd stop that day was Schmitz Amusement...which just so happens to be Lt. Lenks home address! Steve Avery was Teresa's 3rd stop that day. Teresa's phone records show a brief phone call that afternoon that pinged a cell tower near Lenk's home. Conversation along the lines of, "Swing back by here, you forgot something." ??

If true, wow

Thats pretty nuts.

A quick google maps search puts Lenks house 17 mins from Avery Salvage

A friend told me that Lenk didnt move there til 2012

https://www.reddit.com/r/MakingaMurderer/comments/3ytrah/rebuttal_to_latest_0hour_tweet_linking_lenk_with/

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They might not be connected, but would sure be a hell of a coincidence.

A good article on some alternate theories:

http://fusion.net/story/249427/netflix-making-a-murderer-what-happened-theories/

A better written, more believable ex-bf / brother theory than mine from a few posts above:

https://www.reddit.com/r/MakingaMurderer/comments/3yho3u/mike_halbach_and_hillegas_seem_sketchy_due_to/

Looks like the Lt. Lenk address stuff is false. The guy that tweeted that out was basing on incorrect info from Facebook.

The notion that Avery would drag the car to his own lot and half ass cover it rather than crush the damn thing is beyond reason.

The key magically appearing during the 8th search when Manitowoc County officials were present, despite the fact they weren't supposed to be involved, despite that exact spot bring previously searched, is damning evidence of a plant.

Pulling the kid out of school and coercing him into a confession was sickening. Beyond shameful. You'd think his story would have been vacated when no blood could be found to corroborate the throat slashing and bound rape. He has the intelligence of a 5 year old...can't get over this part.

The parade of "press conferences" where the DA has a **** eating grin on his face, reading evidence to the crowd as if it's a Shakespearean play...WTF! He truly seems to relish it. So inappropriate.

I'm only 10 minutes into episode 4 FYI. This is $%&+ed up.

14 pieces of troubling evidence Netflix' "Making a Murderer" left out

http://onmilwaukee.com/movies/articles/evidenceagainstavery.html

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14 pieces of troubling evidence Netflix' "Making a Murderer" left out

http://onmilwaukee.com/movies/articles/evidenceagainstavery.html

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well, organized list. Thanks for posting. I've read all of that in different areas on different sites, but nice to see it all together.

Some of it I don't give 2 ****s about, other stuff is obviously interesting.

"He had pornography" is one of them. What the hell does that matter?

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"He had pornography" is one of them. What the hell does that matter?

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Certainly several things on the list aren't really "troubling" at all.

I'm only halfway through episode three and have audibly said "what the ****" around three times now.

A buddy just sent me the full transcripts of Brendans phone conversations with his mom. In one of them he talks about Steven molesting him. Here is the Reddit thread that covers it.

Someone mentioned earlier that if this was a movie people would say its too far fetched. Crazy stuff.

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A buddy just sent me the full transcripts of Brendans phone conversations with his mom. In one of them he talks about Steven molesting him. Here is the Reddit thread that covers it.

Someone mentioned earlier that if this was a movie people would say its too far fetched. Crazy stuff.

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Great post. I knew those barb/brendan phone convos were highly edited for the doc.

Also, that Alveolar posting all over that thread is doing a great job at pretending to sound intelligent and professional, but you can clearly see they have their mind made up about what happened and nothing left out of the doc will change that.

So a couple of thoughts:

The DA/sheriff's office had something on the first appointed lawyer. He was not just a bad attorney but actually working for the DA. Bad enough that he should likely be at the least sanctioned. And he looks like he is into kiddy porn but I guess we should not jump to conclusions. He does remind me of Lester from Fargo Season 2.

It is crazy that they didn't look into her family and ex-boyfriend. They were both shady and didn't seem interested in getting to the truth.

Also would like to have known who else lives on the property. His family is a bit shady and it seemed like there were several who lived on the property. They could easily have done it and set him up.

Another theory I thought of is that Steve did do it. But loved the attention and fame he got from the first case. So instead of hiding the killing he "set himself up". Thinking that he would fake a frame-up and then not only get away with it but also get paid again. Maybe he does not have the mental capacity to do that or maybe just not enough to do it right.

But the fact that either was convicted is amazing. But even more amazing is that not one appeals court found any reason to overturn either case. That is hard for me to understand. There were multiple very strong appeals to be made.

Lester was in S1 of Fargo

That's correct about Lester. My bad.

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So a couple of thoughts:

The DA/sheriff's office had something on the first appointed lawyer. He was not just a bad attorney but actually working for the DA. Bad enough that he should likely be at the least sanctioned. And he looks like he is into kiddy porn but I guess we should not jump to conclusions. He does remind me of Lester from Fargo Season 2.

It is crazy that they didn't look into her family and ex-boyfriend. They were both shady and didn't seem interested in getting to the truth.

Also would like to have known who else lives on the property. His family is a bit shady and it seemed like there were several who lived on the property. They could easily have done it and set him up.

Another theory I thought of is that Steve did do it. But loved the attention and fame he got from the first case. So instead of hiding the killing he "set himself up". Thinking that he would fake a frame-up and then not only get away with it but also get paid again. Maybe he does not have the mental capacity to do that or maybe just not enough to do it right.

But the fact that either was convicted is amazing. But even more amazing is that not one appeals court found any reason to overturn either case. That is hard for me to understand. There were multiple very strong appeals to be made.

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Interesting theory on "setting himself up". As crazy as this case is, anything is possible.

Ugh. Now Brendan tells his mom he did do it.

******* it. I don't know what to think. My mind changes every ten minutes.

I should just stop posting till I finish.

Oh ****, the cop called in the plates before the car was found.

I am so hooked on this thing.

Three eps to go.

I don't understand how anyone on the jury can possibly think the key wasn't planted. Zero trace of the owner's DNA, and only Avery's?

No blood anywhere in the trailer or garage?

There's literally zero evidence except the blood in the car and the bones, which are both easily planted.

Althought I guess one thing that's weird is, why haven't we been presented with a concrete timeline of what exactly Avery was doing that day? You'd figure the people making this documentary would've made that clear by now.