The judge is rediculous too. How he didn't think the deleted voice mails were relevant is beyond me. And the ex printed her phone records?! Wtf?

The investigator crying on the stand in the final episode when talking about the ribbon on the tree just might have been the oddest thing of this whole story, and that speaks volumes. Seriously, WTF.

If this whole thing were a fictional movie, no one would pay to see it because of how absurd it would all sound.

Crazy, crazy story.

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he judge is rediculous too. How he didn't think the deleted voice mails were relevant is beyond me. And the ex printed her phone records?! Wtf?

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And the ex boyfriend somehow guessed her password. Wtf? And after guessing it he didn't remember what it was, said it was something to do with her sister's birthday. I don't know the birthday of my wife's siblings, definitely didn't know the birthdays of my girlfriends' siblings. Not to mention it probably wasn't just as simple as typing in her birthday.

The Evidence against Steve:

The Key. Does anyone seriously believe that the key WASN'T PLANTED? I mean, come on. 8 searches and no key. 9th search and voila! And by Lenk, which is just pure coincidence. Junkyards with 10,000 cars have zero keys other than the magic one.

The Bullet. Did you SEE the garage? How long would it take to search a pigsty like that? Months and months after the crime? No other evidence in the garage that any crime took place there. How do you get rid of all the blood evidence if you shot her in the head in the garage? If you didn't, why is a bullet there? This was a huge high profile case. I think that was PLANTED. Why did you think they killed her in the garage? The cops came up with the fact she was tied down and all.

The Car. The car bothers me. I can't say that it was planted. But seriously - Steve was operating the crusher the day after she disappeared. Why would you not crush the car? Why did the mom and daughter team find it in 10 minutes among literally 40 acres of cars? Why did the cop radio the license plate from another location AFTER she disappeared? Why are there damages to the Rav4 that match someone towing the vehicle? Why did the "cover up" job look fake - I mean tree branches a foot apart? Why was there a hole in the blood vial? Why was Steve's blood in very random places but no fingerprints?

The bone fragments. This is the only real evidence I see. The weird thing here is having the bone fragments in 3 places miles apart.

What i think happened:
Cops hated the Averys. Cops hated the lawsuit. Cops thought Steve did it. Cops planted bullet, car, keys.

Who killed her?
I have no idea. Might have been Steve. Might have been boyfriend. Might have been roommate. I really don't think the cops killed her at all. I think they helped the evidence - just like they did in his rape trial. Does anyone else think its weird that under oath they won't admit he was innocent of the rape?

I think the cops are terrible, terrible investigators. Barney Fife blows them away.

Random thought but it is fascinating that the ex boyfriend just happened to guess her password to check the voicemails, and delete some, and no one else seemed to think that was strange.

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Random thought but it is fascinating that the ex boyfriend just happened to guess her password to check the voicemails, and delete some, and no one else seemed to think that was strange.

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It's fascinating the ex didn't even get investigated in her disappearance.

Someone posted a link earlier on this thread with a photo of the ex boyfriend during the search and he had scratches on his hands. I mean seriously the ex boyfriend or spouse are the first people questioned normally! How could they completely ignore this guy? Not to mention the deleted voice messages.

Keep in mind the documentary's bias and the power of editing, music, and other film techniques in shaping one's viewpoint and emotions.

Here's the evidence from off the top of my head. I find the DNA evidence to be the most important. I will give the benefit of the doubt to skeptics and leave out the evidence of the key and Brendan's confessions.

Circumstantial Evidence

Theresa visits Steven, who has specifically requested her. He is the last known person to see her alive. He calls her three times that daytwice with *67, but the last time without it.

Experts say Theresa was shot with a .22, just like the one in Steven Avery's room.

Steve has a bonfire the night of the murder. Theresa's burnt bones are found throughout his yard.

According to Brendan's mom, Brendan came home the night of the murder with bleach on his jeans and told her he was helping Steven clean the garage. His jeans with bleach on them are submitted as evidence.

Steve has no alibi.

DNA:

• Steve's and Theresa's blood is found in Theresa's car, and Steve has a cut on his right index finger.
• Steve's sweat is found on the hood latch of the car.
• Theresa's DNA is found on a bullet in the garage.

Character:

• Characterized as manipulative by his family and prone to outbursts of anger. Almost no one in his family believes he's innocent.
• Theresa supposedly finds him creepy and requests not to go over there anymore after he answers his door in only a towel.

1985 and before:

• Robbed a bar.
• Doused a cat in gasoline and threw it in the fire, killing it.
• Ran a female relative off the road and pointed a gun at her head. 6 of his 18 years in prison are spent for this crime.

In prison:

• Wrote disturbing letters to ex-wife and kids about killing his ex-wife.
• Supposedly told inmates about plans for a torture chamber and how burning a body is best for getting rid of DNA.

2003 and after:

• In early 2006, Steven Avery's relative accuses him of sexually assaulting her in 2004 when she was 16 (it was investigated in 2004, but she did not admit to it then because he threatened to kill her family if she did). If Avery wasn't convicted of murder, he was going to be charged for this.

Police tampering:

• Manitowoc police are involved in some of the crime scene investigation, but there is no direct evidence of any tampering, only speculation.
• The hole in the blood vial is perfectly normal (as shown here, but not in the documentary). While the ripped tape is weird, the FBI's EDTA test showed EDTA in the vial but not in the car stains, leading there to be no legitimate reason IN THE COURT OF LAW to believe blood was planted in the car.

Here's an article where a site put some of that same stuff you mentioned above down together.

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The documentary said that part of Avery's criminal past included animal cruelty. To my recollection, it didn't specify exactly what that animal cruelty was. I know that for some of our readers, knowing is enough to want to see Avery get the death sentence regardless of whether he murdered Halbach: He doused a cat in oil and threw it on a bonfire (this is not relevant to the murder trial, but it certainly diminishes the sympathy some of us felt for him).

Past criminal activity also included threatening a female relative at gunpoint.

In the months leading up to Halbach's disappearance, Avery had called Auto Trader several times and always specifically requested Halbach to come out and take the photos.

Halbach had complained to her boss that she didn't want to go out to Avery's trailer anymore, because once when she came out, Avery was waiting for her wearing only a towel (this was excluded for being too inflammatory). Avery clearly had an obsession with Halbach.

On the day that Halbach went missing, Avery had called her three times, twice from a *67 number to hide his identity.

The bullet with Halbach's DNA on it came from Avery's gun, which always hung above his bed.

Avery had purchased handcuffs and leg irons like the ones Dassey described holding Halbach only three weeks before (Avery said he's purchased them for use with his girlfriend, Jodi, with whom he'd had a tumultuous relationship at one point, he was ordered by police to stay away from her for three days).

Here's the piece of evidence that was presented at trial but not in the series that I find most convincing: In Dassey's illegally obtained statement, Dassey stated that he helped Avery moved the RAV4 into the junkyard and that Avery had lifted the hood and removed the battery cable. Even if you believe that the blood in Halbach's car was planted by the cops (as I do), there was also non-blood DNA evidence on the hood latch. I don't believe the police would plant or know to plant that evidence.

I certainly believe that there was a tremendous amount of police misconduct in this case. I believe the police helped the case against Avery along by planting evidence (and there's no doubt in my mind that they planted the RAV4 key in Avery's trailer). I also don't believe the prosecution's theory of events: There's no way Halbach was raped and had her throat slashed in the trailer without a speck of DNA evidence, and there's no way she was shot in the garage without any blood splatter evidence. After all, if Avery had somehow used bleach to erase all trace of Halbach's DNA, he would've also cleaned the garage of his own DNA (and the garage still contained lots of Avery's DNA).

I don't know how Avery murdered Halbach. I also don't believe anything that Dassey said in his coerced confession, but I also won't rule out Dassey's involvement because he would've done anything anyone asked of him. Still, the idea that the police killed Halbach is impossible to believe, not because they weren't capable of it, but because of the planning and foresight it would've required.

I also believe that Adnan Syed is guilty, but in both cases, I don't believe the jury should've convicted because there simply wasn't enough unimpeachable evidence to support a guilty verdict. I am even more convinced than after Serial that the jury system is ****ed, but ironically, in both cases, I also think the jury arrived at the correct conclusion.

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http://www.pajiba.com/netflix_movies_and_tv/is-steven-avery-guilty-evidence-making-a-murderer-didnt-present.php

I don't agree with all of it, but for the sake of context for the thread, figured I'd put it out there.

So he bled in the car from the cut on his finger, but left no fingerprints?