Wow...would love to hear what actual lawyers think about this story.

I am only 3 episodes in so I am probably still in store for some bombshells, but I do think Avery killed that girl.

Here is the nephews entire interview:

http://www.avclub.com/article/brendan-dasseys-entire-unnerving-4-hour-confession-230481

Yeah a lot of the stuff about the him raping her and all that is coerced and came out after a long time being questioned, but within like the first 15 minutes he is admitting he that he saw her dead body in the garage and he knew what type of rope she was tied up with, he also says Steve told him he was pissed at the woman because she didnt put his blazer in the magazine, or something like that. Just seems strange he would know those details.

I'm sure the show does a great job trying to prove Avery was set up to stop his lawsuit because that's a great story that gets viewers to watch, but I'm not buying it, so far at least.

Here is the transcript of the nephew's previous interview with the investigators at the police station. I believe this is 3 or 4 days before the recorded interview used in the movie.

Just seems strange the nephew would make all this up.

http://www.documentingreality.com/forum/attachments/f249/628850d1434708246-video-teresa-halbach-murder-case-tworiverspdtranscript.pdf

And youtube of this entire interview. A lot less "leading" by investigators in this one and this one was before the interview showed in the show.

Yeah he did it. Good editing though to keep audience involved.

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Yeah a lot of the stuff about the him raping her and all that is coerced and came out after a long time being questioned, but within like the first 15 minutes he is admitting he that he saw her dead body in the garage.

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So you think he shot her eleven times in the garage and they couldn't find a single trace of her DNA. When they get to the garage search and you see pics of the garage, you can tell that it clearly was not cleaned in any way shape or form. Plus his DNA was found all over the garage. It would be pretty much impossible to clean out all her DNA, but leave his own.

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Yeah a lot of the stuff about the him raping her and all that is coerced and came out after a long time being questioned, but within like the first 15 minutes he is admitting he that he saw her dead body in the garage.

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So you think he shot her eleven times in the garage and they couldn't find a single trace of her DNA. When they get to the garage search and you see pics of the garage, you can tell that it clearly was not cleaned in any way shape or form. Plus his DNA was found all over the garage. It would be pretty much impossible to clean out all her DNA, but leave his own.

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I think he shot her 1 time in the head. Not sure where. Probably in the fire pit.

It is easy to disprove the crazy stories brendan is saying and I don't believe all of that, but I do believe that he saw her dead body that day, that he helped his uncle clean up, and that his uncle told him what happened.

In order to believe that he is innocent it seems like you have to believe in system wide corruption all the way up to the federal level and not just 1 or 2 crooked cops but at least a dozen professionals are out to get Steven Avery for some reason. You have to believe that it's just a coincidence that this lady is killed after Steven Avery is the last person to see her alive, that someone knew to plant her car on his property and her body in his fire pit, and that it just so happened he and his nephew decided to have a 2 person bonfire the same night the lady went missing.

How do you know Steven Avery was the last person to see her alive?

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Well he admitted to seeing her, and to my knowledge no one else has admitted to seeing her after that and there is no other evidence (phone use, credit card use, witnesses, etc) that she was still alive after that.

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Well he admitted to seeing her, and to my knowledge no one else has admitted to seeing her after that and there is no other evidence (phone use, credit card use, witnesses, etc) that she was still alive after that.

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She was not determined to be missing for several days after seeing Steven Avery. The prosecution never established time and location of death. You cannot assume he was the last person to see her alive.

Had anyone come forward and admitted they saw or talked to her after she met with Steve Avery?? Did she make any calls after she met with him? Any evidence that she was alive during the time she was missing??

Like I said, I'm 3 episodes in so maybe something comes up, but as far as I know right now, the last person to admit seeing her is Steve.

Maybe the better way to say it was Steve Avery is the last person known to have seen her alive. Still awfully unlucky for him, don't you think?

I think he killed her.

But "he was the last one to see her" isn't proven

Instead of last person to see her, I think last known whereabouts is probably more fair to say.

Well obviously if there was some mystery killer that would be the last person to have seen her. I think it was obvious what I meant.

Steve Avery is the last person to admit to seeing her alive, correct?

Finished it last night.

Brendan: There is no way this kid should be in prison for life, even with the possibility of parole. He didn't have a clue what was going on during his "confession". He was just trying to say what the cops wanted so he could go home and watch Wrestlemania and play with his friends.

He is not bright enough to even know that helping his uncle murder/hide/burn a person is something he could say NO to. I don't know if he had any involvement in the murder (if Steve did it), but I definitely don't think he was trying to do anything malicious.

If he did have some involvement, there should be punishment, but not his entire life.

Steven: I don't know if he did it or not, but there was definitely reasonable doubt. The location of the car, the hole in the blood vile, no blood evidence found in the house or the garage (they never really decided where she was murdered), the key, the call about the plates.

I really felt like the brother and/or the ex-boyfriend had something to do with either the murder itself, or the planting of evidence to try to guarantee a conviction.

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So you think he shot her eleven times in the garage and they couldn't find a single trace of her DNA. When they get to the garage search and you see pics of the garage, you can tell that it clearly was not cleaned in any way shape or form. Plus his DNA was found all over the garage. It would be pretty much impossible to clean out all her DNA, but leave his own.

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I think he shot her 1 time in the head. Not sure where. Probably in the fire pit.

It is easy to disprove the crazy stories brendan is saying and I don't believe all of that, but I do believe that he saw her dead body that day, that he helped his uncle clean up, and that his uncle told him what happened.

In order to believe that he is innocent it seems like you have to believe in system wide corruption all the way up to the federal level and not just 1 or 2 crooked cops but at least a dozen professionals are out to get Steven Avery for some reason. You have to believe that it's just a coincidence that this lady is killed after Steven Avery is the last person to see her alive, that someone knew to plant her car on his property and her body in his fire pit, and that it just so happened he and his nephew decided to have a 2 person bonfire the same night the lady went missing.

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So he shot her once in three fire pit, dragged her to the garage where the kid saw her and then back to the fire pit to burn her, then spread her bones in his for pot, his neighbor's and the quarry. How does that make sense?

I don't think the police killed her, but I do believe two cops is all it took to plant three key pieces of evidence whether Avery did it or not.

Don't know anything about bones is the quarry yet. I guess that is still to come. Is there dogs about there? Maybe they carried them off

I don't think he shot her in the fire pit and then drug her back into garage. I think he may have shot her as she burned. She was probably already dead.

I have no idea exactly how it happened obviously and to get a conviction, the prosecution does not have to prove exactly how it happened.

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I don't think he shot her in the fire pit and then drug her back into garage. I think he may have shot her as she burned. She was probably already dead.

I have no idea exactly how it happened obviously and to get a conviction, the prosecution does not have to prove exactly how it happened.

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Her bones were found in the places. I believe it was her pelvis that was in the quarry. You would have to drive from quarry to the house. And garage.

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Don't know anything about bones is the quarry yet. I guess that is still to come. Is there dogs about there? Maybe they carried them off

I don't think he shot her in the fire pit and then drug her back into garage. I think he may have shot her as she burned. She was probably already dead.

I have no idea exactly how it happened obviously and to get a conviction, the prosecution does not have to prove exactly how it happened.

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The only bullet with taxes of her DNA was in the garage after days of searching. It was just trace DNA, the test could not be replicated and the DNA Tech had to apply for an exception to say it was her DNA because there sample had been contaminated and by protocol it should have been ruled inconclusive. This is the only time in her career that DNA that should have been ruled inconclusive was asked for an exception to rule it a match.

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I don't think he shot her in the fire pit and then drug her back into garage. I think he may have shot her as she burned. She was probably already dead.

I have no idea exactly how it happened obviously and to get a conviction, the prosecution does not have to prove exactly how it happened.

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The only bullet with taxes of her DNA was in the garage after days of searching. It was just trace DNA, the test could not be replicated and the DNA Tech had to apply for an exception to say it was her DNA because there sample had been contaminated and by protocol it should have been ruled inconclusive. This is the only time in her career that DNA that should have been ruled inconclusive was asked for an exception to rule it a match.

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So another professional that decided o put their career on the line in order to frame Steve Avery?? Damn this dude is unlucky

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I don't think he shot her in the fire pit and then drug her back into garage. I think he may have shot her as she burned. She was probably already dead.

I have no idea exactly how it happened obviously and to get a conviction, the prosecution does not have to prove exactly how it happened.

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The only bullet with taxes of her DNA was in the garage after days of searching. It was just trace DNA, the test could not be replicated and the DNA Tech had to apply for an exception to say it was her DNA because there sample had been contaminated and by protocol it should have been ruled inconclusive. This is the only time in her career that DNA that should have been ruled inconclusive was asked for an exception to rule it a match.

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So another professional that decided o put their career on the line in order to frame Steve Avery?? Damn this dude is unlucky

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This was after that person received a memo saying they needed to find something to nail Avery.

Yes, it was read into evidence and is in the documentary.

Just finished episode 5.

Interesting to see the theories about the brother being involved.

I haven't really followed many national murder stories that closely in my time, but I find it odd that so far after every day in court he was calm and comfortable enough to give a statement to the media. Just seems so off to me to see such a close family member do that.

Also what seems more interesting to me is the scene where the brother and ex-boyfriend are tripping over their ****s trying to explain where they were when the car/evidence was found and who actually found it.

Yeah, I admit I have 7 more hrs to go and will keep watching with an open mind, but keeping in mind I am basically watching the defenses unrefuted theory of the case, so I won't just accept what is presented without question.

Bone stuff sounds interesting. Were the bones found in other places also burned? Seems like the pelvis would be one of largest chunks so I would imagine after the fire went out he decided he needed to get rid of the large pieces and took them elsewhere.

Where did they find the skull? Don't know anything about the bullet they found yet, is it possible it was in the skull and made its way into garage when Avery took the larger remaining pieces to dispose of elsewhere?

But how did Avery move the body parts undetected?

While the found the bones in 3 sites, they couldn't figure out a murder location (It was the garage in the SA trial, and the bedroom in the BD trial).

The RAV 4 had SA blood, but not TH, so he didn't use that.

They never mention the other vehicles that SA had access to, but we can guess they were tested as well.

So did he carry the burned body parts around?

And how did he do that while also answering two phone calls during the timeframe that he would have been hiding the body?

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While the found the bones in 3 sites, they couldn't figure out a murder location (It was the garage in the SA trial, and the bedroom in the BD trial).

The RAV 4 had SA blood, but not TH, so he didn't use that.

They never mention the other vehicles that SA had access to, but we can guess they were tested as well.

So did he carry the burned body parts around?

And how did he do that while also answering two phone calls during the timeframe that he would have been hiding the body?

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He wouldn't have had to hide the bones that night. They didn't start searching his place for a few days. Also, if she had already burned up so that there was nothing but charred bones remaining, would there be any blood to get anywhere when he transported them?

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But how did Avery move the body parts undetected?

While the found the bones in 3 sites, they couldn't figure out a murder location (It was the garage in the SA trial, and the bedroom in the BD trial).

The RAV 4 had SA blood, but not TH, so he didn't use that.

They never mention the other vehicles that SA had access to, but we can guess they were tested as well.

So did he carry the burned body parts around?

And how did he do that while also answering two phone calls during the timeframe that he would have been hiding the body?

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He wouldn't have had to hide the bones that night. They didn't start searching his place for a few days. Also, if she had already burned up so that there was nothing but charred bones remaining, would there be any blood to get anywhere when he transported them?

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But BD made the claim (somewhat supported by Bobby Dassey) that they had a "huge" bonfire that night which is when the prosecution claimed the bones were burned.

So if they are to be believed, he at minimum burned the body that same day which would have meant he needed to do something with the bones pretty quickly to avoid any suspicion.

As for her blood...it depends on where she actually died which nobody really knows. During the trial, they focused on the garage...but there was zero evidence (other than the bullet). During BD trial, it was in the bedroom, where there was still no evidence.

If it was in the fire pit, there should have been some blood evidence right?

And that's the contradiction of all of this. He was so thorough to not lot leave any blood evidence of where this murder took place (and sexual assault), but careless enough to leave just enough blood in the RAV 4 and the bones in plain site.

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The Avery brothers look pretty damn suspicious...

http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2016/01/10/making-a-murderer-meet-the-men-steven-avery-thinks-may-have-killed-teresa-halbach.html 2
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Wow, very good read. Pretty convincing as well.

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The Avery brothers look pretty damn suspicious...

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Wow, very good read. Pretty convincing as well.

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http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2016/01/10/making-a-murderer-meet-the-men-steven-avery-thinks-may-have-killed-teresa-halbach.html

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The court deemed the introduction of any other suspects inadmissible "because the defendant does not contend any of the other persons present at the Avery property on October 31, 2005, had a motive to murder Teresa Halbach or commit the other crimes alleged to have been committed against her."

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Also how about all the dime pieces in post courtroom pressers? Where did these ladies come from?

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The chick with the Malaysian glasses that she stole from Jake Jarmel.... Who is she and how can I marry her

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The chick with the Malaysian glasses that she stole from Jake Jarmel.... Who is she and how can I marry her

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