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In reply to West Texan • 7:27p, 6/16/19
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DeRozan for Ingram+#4?

Spurs get an actual SF and another young piece to rebuild with.

New Orleans gets a proven all Star that can create his own shot and create for others.


If I'm NO, I turn that one down pretty quick.


This.

Plus Demar definitely isn't resigning with the pelicans when he becomes a free agent. Our best bet for a Derozan trade would be someone that thinks they're a contender but missed out on other big free agents.


Two years of DD isnt a terrible move for the Pels. They'd have a veteran starting backcourt to groom all the kids they just acquired. I dont think they'd give up Ingram for him though.


Ingram really doesn't do anything for me. He's already missed a bunch of games for a kid only 3 years into his career and he's not a very good shooter. He's a career sub 33% from 3 and 66% from the free throw line, and while he does some nice things on offense, why would we swap a non shooting all star for a non shooting young guy. That #4 pick with the possibility to draft De'Andre Hunter is way more interesting to me than Brandon Ingram.


From The Ringer's story on the trade:


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The biggest prize in this deal is Ingram, who is somehow still 21 years old and would be, at worst, the third pick of this year's draft. In his last 25 games before his 2018-19 season ended because of a blood clot in his shoulder, Ingram averaged 20.7 points per game, 5.8 rebounds, and 3.5 assists on 52.3 percent field goal shooting and 36.6 percent from 3, despite not fully grasping what constitutes a good shot or how easily he can score at the rim. Even if Ingram plateaus from herewhich seems unlikely given his age and burgeoning ability as a playmakerit's hard to overstate just how much of an upgrade he is on the wing over the never-ending cascade of below-replacement-level small forwards that preceded him in New Orleans.
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2:43p, 6/17/19
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Pelicans are reportedly eyeing Beal for the 4th. If that falls through maybe they'd settle for DeMar.
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3:33p, 6/17/19
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Washington has a monumental rebuilding challenge. Only 171mm left on John Wall's contract.
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In reply to DeangeloVickers • 5:31p, 6/17/19
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Nashville and St Louis should get an NBA team
That will never happen in St. Louis.

The former owners of the "Spirit of St. Louis" from the ABA are still to happy to cash their TV revenue checks from the NBA each year.
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5:33p, 6/17/19
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So Kawhi and raptors talking crap about pop and SA at their parade?
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5:33p, 6/17/19
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We will rise again my friends
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5:34p, 6/17/19
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Maybe it's just me, but I would rather keep a good core group together for 5+ years and hope that they could win one vs. going all-in for a 2-year championship run with an entire team of short-term mercenaries followed by a long, painful rebuild.

Edit: this was meant for the Anthony Davis thread.
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In reply to BlackLab • 6:04p, 6/17/19
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So Kawhi and raptors talking crap about pop and SA at their parade?


Vanvleet is trash. That's just complete disrespect for the game from a guy who should be on his knees thanking Pop for giving them the player that single handedly won them a championship. We better come for him hard when we play them next year.

Edit: And for him to say it right in front of Kawhi and Castleberry tells me that They probably repeatedly ran Pop's name through the mud over the season. In a year that was probably the toughest in Pop's life. Very classy.
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6:40p, 6/17/19
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No amount of Finals MVP awards will erase the quitter that Kawhi Leonard is as it concerns the Spurs. That is etched into history.
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6:52p, 6/17/19
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Here's the video.

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In reply to Sports-Ag • 7:05p, 6/17/19
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Here's the video.





Who cares what Fred Van Vleet thinks.
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7:14p, 6/17/19
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I'm pretty sure the fans at the ATT Center will when Van Vleet comes to town.
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3:34p, 6/18/19
Chris Paul has made it known he wants out of Houston now. Seems like the Spurs may have dodged a bullet by just missing out on him two summers ago considering he really wasn't reliable for them down the stretch. He's also owed $125 million over the next 3 years. YIKES
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In reply to s13fenton • 3:35p, 6/18/19
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He's a prima donna
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5:16p, 6/18/19
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According to the Athletic multiple sources say Gay is going to re-sign with the Spurs. I guess it's okay. Good for continuity and to keep DeMar happy. Not as bad as Richard Jefferson.
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5:21p, 6/18/19
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Gay gave us 14/7/3 in 27mpg last year on .504/.402/.816 shooting plus hit 48% of his corner threes. He made 57% of his 10-16ft mid range jumpers and 50% of his 16-23ft mid range jumpers.

Well worth the $10mm or whatever we are giving him for a year.
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In reply to Guitarsoup • 5:25p, 6/18/19
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Guitarsoup said:
Gay gave us 14/7/3 in 27mpg last year on .504/.402/.816 shooting plus hit 48% of his corner threes. He made 57% of his 10-16ft mid range jumpers and 50% of his 16-23ft mid range jumpers.

Well worth the $10mm or whatever we are giving him for a year.


I agree. But maybe we should limit his minutes even more. He faded in a lot of the playoff games.
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In reply to Enzo The Baker • 6:01p, 6/18/19
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Enzo The Baker said:
Guitarsoup said:
Gay gave us 14/7/3 in 27mpg last year on .504/.402/.816 shooting plus hit 48% of his corner threes. He made 57% of his 10-16ft mid range jumpers and 50% of his 16-23ft mid range jumpers.

Well worth the $10mm or whatever we are giving him for a year.


I agree. But maybe we should limit his minutes even more. He faded in a lot of the playoff games.


He played more in the playoffs than he was in the regular season. Especially once Bertans got himself benched. Gay has been great and it's good to hear that he wants to stay. Hes pretty much the ideal NBA 2019 PF.
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10:56a, 6/19/19
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In reply to Guitarsoup • 11:13a, 6/19/19
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Conley is a good fit for Utah and Memphis gets a couple shooters to put around Morant and Jaren Jackson.
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In reply to West Texan • 11:20a, 6/19/19
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This looks like a salary dump to me. Utah with a steal. I wonder if they'll be looking to trade Rubio now
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In reply to Ag Natural • 11:36a, 6/19/19
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This looks like a salary dump to me. Utah with a steal. I wonder if they'll be looking to trade Rubio now


I think Rubio is a FA. Indy rumored to be targeting him.
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12:26p, 6/19/19
I wish the Spurs would go hard after Middleton but I know they won't he is the literal definition of the type of player Pop likes.
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In reply to Guitarsoup • 1:04p, 6/19/19
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Wait a second... you telling me Utah traded two white guys for a black guy?
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1:20p, 6/19/19
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Alright fellas, the draft is tomorrow and the Spurs have 3 picks (19, 29, and 49). Call your shot. Who do we pick, do we trade up and if so for who, etc.

I think we stand pat and pick Luke Samanic at 19, Darius Bazley at 29, and Jontay Porter at 49.
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In reply to Aggie_3 • 1:33p, 6/19/19
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I wish the Spurs would go hard after Middleton but I know they won't he is the literal definition of the type of player Pop likes.
Not sure he would take the mid-level exception.
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In reply to Guitarsoup • 8:22p, 6/19/19
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I came hear to ask if there was a chance, and you already shot my dream down. I knew the answer though.

Probably, perfect timing on his part to get as much as he can. One of those classic and superb last year of contract seasons.
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8:40p, 6/19/19
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Middleton is probably getting a max deal somewhere. Which is crazy
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In reply to West Texan • 8:48p, 6/19/19
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West Texan said:
Alright fellas, the draft is tomorrow and the Spurs have 3 picks (19, 29, and 49). Call your shot. Who do we pick, do we trade up and if so for who, etc.

I think we stand pat and pick Luke Samanic at 19, Darius Bazley at 29, and Jontay Porter at 49.
OK I'll play.

19- I would like Rui hachimura but since he probably won't be there I'll go with Goga Bitzade
29- Dylan Windler
49- who knows. Jontay Porter sounds as good as anybody else that will be there.
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In reply to OlRock • 7:18a, 6/20/19
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I came hear to ask if there was a chance, and you already shot my dream down. I knew the answer though.

Probably, perfect timing on his part to get as much as he can. One of those classic and superb last year of contract seasons.


Thing is statistically his 2017-2018 season was better for him than this season.
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In reply to HummingbirdSaltalamacchia • 8:18a, 6/20/19
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HummingbirdSaltalamacchia said:
Middleton is probably getting a max deal somewhere. Which is crazy
'With Bucks offloading Snell and some draft picks to free up more space, likely resigning with the Bucks for big money.
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8:27a, 6/20/19
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Some dude Amico is reporting that the Spurs are trying to trade their first rounders for a proven veteran. Apparently you have to take what that guy says with a grain of salt.
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In reply to Enzo The Baker • 10:32a, 6/20/19
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Enzo The Baker said:
Some dude Amico is reporting that the Spurs are trying to trade their first rounders for a proven veteran. Apparently you have to take what that guy says with a grain of salt.
Pop doesn't exactly have a long history of loving to use picks 15-30.

I would 100% believe Pop would move both picks to a veteran.

Patty + 19 for Robert Covington?
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In reply to Guitarsoup • 10:39a, 6/20/19
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Guitarsoup said:
Enzo The Baker said:
Some dude Amico is reporting that the Spurs are trying to trade their first rounders for a proven veteran. Apparently you have to take what that guy says with a grain of salt.
Pop doesn't exactly have a long history of loving to use picks 15-30.

I would 100% believe Pop would move both picks to a veteran.

Patty + 19 for Robert Covington?


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In reply to Enzo The Baker • 11:29a, 6/20/19
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Enzo The Baker said:
Some dude Amico is reporting that the Spurs are trying to trade their first rounders for a proven veteran. Apparently you have to take what that guy says with a grain of salt.
Sam Amico has about as many reliable sources about the Spurs as CNN has about Trump.
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