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Obi Wan Ginobili said:

I don't think Zion is going to help anyone with his broken ass jumpshot. He's not tall enough to be a 4/5, and he's going to be too slow to guard the top SFs of the league.

I just don't get the appeal. Because he dunks the ball hard? He's built like LeBron but the comparison ends there. SFs need to be able to shoot 3s in todays game and he shoots what I imagine AzulAg shoots like.


Everyone keeps hoping for the next Charles Barkley, but he's not nearly skilled enough for that. I've said this before, but he's a knee injury away from being Dejuan Blair. I think his ceiling (with a ton of work on his shot and handles) is a more athletic Paul Millsap. A very good player, but he's not a franchise changer.
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He's gotta try to be Barkley, which I think could be a good compliment to Davis, if Davis decides to give it a go.
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AD may have burned that bridge, no?
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No clue. He's a tough one because he's WAY better than what you will get for him, but at the same time, he is injured a lot and Zion doesn't address their main need of solid wing players.
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Guitarsoup said:

He's gotta try to be Barkley, which I think could be a good compliment to Davis, if Davis decides to give it a go.
he ain't Barkley. He's turrible. Like a t-Rex playing basketball with those short arms in the nba.
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mike_ags_fan12 said:

AD may have burned that bridge, no?


If I'm the Pelicans, that bridge is never burned no matter what AD does.
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DSAg44 said:

Guitarsoup said:

He's gotta try to be Barkley, which I think could be a good compliment to Davis, if Davis decides to give it a go.
he ain't Barkley. He's turrible. Like a t-Rex playing basketball with those short arms in the nba.
He's also 18. With the right coaching, he could be killer in the NBA.

But right coaching and New Orleans basketball teams don't exactly go hand in hand.
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Obi Wan Ginobili said:

mike_ags_fan12 said:

AD may have burned that bridge, no?


If I'm the Pelicans, that bridge is never burned no matter what AD does.
Agree. It isn't like he sat out like a ***** to get a huge shoe deal from Nike New Balance.
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One of the stars of John Wick 3 at the premiere. I'm guessing Keanu was there too.

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LawHall88 said:


**** Kawhi
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Dougie G with truth bombs

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Iowaggie said:

One of the stars of John Wick 3 at the premiere. I'm guessing Keanu was there too.


Did anyone else see this? It was a pretty cool scene!
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Hey Soup. Spurs are hiring for a full time team photographer.
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flashplayer said:

Hey Soup. Spurs are hiring for a full time team photographer.


They should have called a few years ago. I've got something better going. They would have to pay way more than I'm worth.

That was a dream job of mine for a long, long time, though
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A friend of mine shot for the Spurs in the early 2000s. He was the assistant to the main photographer and shot opposite side of the court for home games. Always cool to see him during games. The travel schedule would be brutal if you were the main guy.
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I don't think they bring the photographer everywhere. At least the Rockets don't. They might bring him for important games or close games like Dallas, Houston, OKC, New Orleans.

I was friends with the OKC/NOPelicans photographer and he didn't travel except in the playoffs.
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The draft is right around the corner and this year we have 3 picks this year (19, 29, 49). Drafting as low as we are is always a crap shoot; do you take the best player available, draft for what you need, draft and stash, take a chance on a guy that super raw, or go with a guy who could contribute but is about tapped out. All that to say, there's no sure things and no one will have a clue until draft night.

Needs: wing defender, 3 point shooting, and an athletic big with the potential to switch on the perimeter.

Wings I like:
Rui Hachimura- I've seen him projected anywhere from 5-20, so we'd have to hope he falls to us, but he's got a lot to like. 6'8" with a 7'2" wingspan, good athlete with some bounce, good midrange jumper and post up game, finishes well around the rim with both hands, and has a reputation as a hard worker. Could play the 3 or small ball 4. His jumper needs a little work (shot 41% from 3, but on less than 1 attempt per game), he doesn't rebound as well as a guy as big, strong and, athletic as he is should, and He doesn't have great vision. I think at minimum he could be what Rudy Gay is right now, with the potential to be a very good SF if his 3 point shot develops.

Cameron Johnson- shot nearly 46% from 3 this past season at UNC, quick release, and he's 6'9" so no one is going to bother his shot. He's a solid defender who I think can be adequate in the NBA. However, he's already 23 and about tapped out. Lots of shooting, but he won't ever be a lock down defender. I like him a lot better if we could get him at 29.

Matisse Thybulle- another guy I like at 29 but not 19, he's Danny Green 2.0 imo. Washington played a Syracuse style zone this last season, but he averaged 3.5 steals and 2.2 blocks per game. That kind of disruptiveness should translate very well. He's more of a 2 guard at 6'6" but has a 7' wingspan and like Danny, I think could guard bigger wings. He shot 35% from 3 and almost 80% from the free throw line, so a little work and I think those numbers would both improve. He's another older player that won't develop a whole lot more to his offensive game, but should contribute early and won't eat up touches.

Bigs:
Bol Bol- another guy that's project anywhere from the mid lottery to 20s, and would be a big time high risk/high reward type of pick. Manute's son is 7'2" with a 7'7" wingspan, has legit 3 point range, and some very surprising ball skills for a guy that big. Could be a real difference maker blocking shots and spacing the floor. Now, he is Manute's son so he's built just like him, so he'll get bullied by bigger posts. He had a foot injury and only played 9 college games (putting up crazy numbers in those games). He also has a reputation as not the hardest worker. Most likely he's gone before 19, but he'd be hard to pass up if he was still there.

Mfiondu Kabengele- nephew of Dikembe Mutombo, so more NBA blood lines. 6'10" with a 7'3" wingspan, and weighs 250 lbs of muscle, so he's already built for the NBA. Being that big, he's a really good athlete. Runs well, moves latterly, quick jumper. Also has a nice shooting touch, shot almost 37% from 3 and 76 from the line. He needs some work between the ears. No passing ability, needs help learning rotations, and has to cut down on turnovers. Would be a nice pick at 29.
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West Texan said:

Obi Wan Ginobili said:

I don't think Zion is going to help anyone with his broken ass jumpshot. He's not tall enough to be a 4/5, and he's going to be too slow to guard the top SFs of the league.

I just don't get the appeal. Because he dunks the ball hard? He's built like LeBron but the comparison ends there. SFs need to be able to shoot 3s in todays game and he shoots what I imagine AzulAg shoots like.


Everyone keeps hoping for the next Charles Barkley, but he's not nearly skilled enough for that. I've said this before, but he's a knee injury away from being Dejuan Blair. I think his ceiling (with a ton of work on his shot and handles) is a more athletic Paul Millsap. A very good player, but he's not a franchise changer.


I think Zion can be a more athletic Draymond Green, which is absolutely worth spending a #1 draft pick on. He is far more than a dunker, and has good handles and excellent court vision. He plays super hard and can defend on the perimeter. The only flaw in his game is his outside shot...just like Draymond, but surround Zion with some shooters and I think good chance he will do very well in the league.
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Pumpkinhead said:

West Texan said:

Obi Wan Ginobili said:

I don't think Zion is going to help anyone with his broken ass jumpshot. He's not tall enough to be a 4/5, and he's going to be too slow to guard the top SFs of the league.

I just don't get the appeal. Because he dunks the ball hard? He's built like LeBron but the comparison ends there. SFs need to be able to shoot 3s in todays game and he shoots what I imagine AzulAg shoots like.


Everyone keeps hoping for the next Charles Barkley, but he's not nearly skilled enough for that. I've said this before, but he's a knee injury away from being Dejuan Blair. I think his ceiling (with a ton of work on his shot and handles) is a more athletic Paul Millsap. A very good player, but he's not a franchise changer.


I think Zion can be a more athletic Draymond Green, which is absolutely worth spending a #1 draft pick on. He is far more than a dunker, and has good handles and excellent court vision. He plays super hard and can defend on the perimeter. The only flaw in his game is his outside shot...just like Draymond, but surround Zion with some shooters and I think good chance he will do very well in the league.
I wonder how well his knees will hold up given his build.
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Hopefully better than his shoes...
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Zion has got enough skill and especially enough motor that he'll end up a contributor. I'll bet on anyone who hustles like he does.
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Ulrich said:

Zion has got enough skill and especially enough motor that he'll end up a contributor. I'll bet on anyone who hustles like he does.


There's no doubt he'll be a contributor, but there's a mile of difference between contributor and the guy who's gonna keep Anthony Davis around and turn New Orleans around. I'm not sure he'll live up to the hype.
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West Texan said:



Bigs:
Bol Bol- another guy that's project anywhere from the mid lottery to 20s, and would be a big time high risk/high reward type of pick. Manute's son is 7'2" with a 7'7" wingspan, has legit 3 point range, and some very surprising ball skills for a guy that big. Could be a real difference maker blocking shots and spacing the floor. Now, he is Manute's son so he's built just like him, so he'll get bullied by bigger posts. He had a foot injury and only played 9 college games (putting up crazy numbers in those games). He also has a reputation as not the hardest worker. Most likely he's gone before 19, but he'd be hard to pass up if he was still there.

Mfiondu Kabengele- nephew of Dikembe Mutombo, so more NBA blood lines. 6'10" with a 7'3" wingspan, and weighs 250 lbs of muscle, so he's already built for the NBA. Being that big, he's a really good athlete. Runs well, moves latterly, quick jumper. Also has a nice shooting touch, shot almost 37% from 3 and 76 from the line. He needs some work between the ears. No passing ability, needs help learning rotations, and has to cut down on turnovers. Would be a nice pick at 29.

What do you think about Bruno Fernando?
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jteagle said:

West Texan said:



Bigs:
Bol Bol- another guy that's project anywhere from the mid lottery to 20s, and would be a big time high risk/high reward type of pick. Manute's son is 7'2" with a 7'7" wingspan, has legit 3 point range, and some very surprising ball skills for a guy that big. Could be a real difference maker blocking shots and spacing the floor. Now, he is Manute's son so he's built just like him, so he'll get bullied by bigger posts. He had a foot injury and only played 9 college games (putting up crazy numbers in those games). He also has a reputation as not the hardest worker. Most likely he's gone before 19, but he'd be hard to pass up if he was still there.

Mfiondu Kabengele- nephew of Dikembe Mutombo, so more NBA blood lines. 6'10" with a 7'3" wingspan, and weighs 250 lbs of muscle, so he's already built for the NBA. Being that big, he's a really good athlete. Runs well, moves latterly, quick jumper. Also has a nice shooting touch, shot almost 37% from 3 and 76 from the line. He needs some work between the ears. No passing ability, needs help learning rotations, and has to cut down on turnovers. Would be a nice pick at 29.

What do you think about Bruno Fernando?


He's another interesting big that the Spurs have a very realistic shot at landing at either pick. Physically, dudes a freak. 6'10" with a 7'4" wingspan, explosive jumper, runs the floor like a guard, and he's built like a brick house. He's got some nice touch around the rim, but I love that he looks to dunk everything. He's got some pretty good handles for a big guy and can take defenders off the bounce. He shot 77% from the line which suggests that he shoots the ball fairly well, but his highlights are almost exclusively dunks. He was 3-10 from 3 this last season, so small sample size, but that along with his free throw percentage lends to the idea that he could develop some range, possibly even out to 3. He's got all the tools to be disruptive on D. The biggest knock on Fernando is that he seems to be missing something between the ears and processes the game slow. This does worry me, because when you watch his size, athleticism, and skills he should be an obvious lottery pick. Perhaps a year in Austin and working with Pop, Timmy, and co. could help fix his IQ short comings. He's the type of big that I think we need to be targeting. Athletic with the ability to switch. I wouldn't be upset at all if we drafted him, though I'd prefer if he could be picked up at 29.
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Wow. Ime Udoka leaving the Spurs to take the lead assistant job in Philly. I guess that pretty clearly puts Messina as the successor. Which is kind of a shame as he isn't too young either.
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Will Hardy expected to move up the line with the Spurs.
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Does that mean Becky moves up or they go after a assistant above her ranks?
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Sports-Ag said:

Does that mean Becky moves up or they go after a assistant above her ranks?
I would think it means Becky slides to Ime's seat next to Pop and Hardy is a permanent fixture on the front row.
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SAN ANTONIO During an interview with ESPN's "Russillo Show" podcast, ESPN's NBA Front Office Insider Bobby Marks claims he is hearing from sources the San Antonio Spurs are targeting Pacers free-agent to be Bojan Bogdanovic.

Marks goes on to opine that Spurs guard DeMar DeRozan could be on the market in July thus making financial space for the Spurs to chase Bogdanovic.


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"I think the one guy who's not a free agent to keep an eye on is DeMar DeRozan in San Antonio. I can see DeRozan being on the market come the first week of July. Almost like a free agent but being under contract.
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And then San Antonio going out and creating some room. And I've heard this from three different people that they (Spurs) have circled Bojan Bogdanovic as their target there. To do that you'd have to move a contract like DeRozan's expiring.
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I don't see an extension in play for him.


DeMar could be on the move already.

https://news4sanantonio.com/sports/content/espns-bobby-marks-spurs-targeting-bojan-bogdanovic-could-move-demar-derozan
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Meh, bye Felicia.
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Not sure I believe that Pop is targeting a foreign spot-up three point shooter.
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A few thoughts on that potential situation.

-I really like Demar, he was put in a tough situation, he was by far the best player we were going to get in return for Kawhi, he expanded his role as a play maker, but his lack of shooting and the fact that he's at best a below average defender really kill building a legit contender around him. It's why the raptors couldn't get over the humo before, and s team led by Derozan and Aldridge don't space the floor enough to really compete. He's got a 90s game 20 years too late.

-I like Bojan a lot and hoped there would be a way we could target him this offseason. He's not a creator,m though, so if Demar were moved for him, someone would have to fill that void.

-I have a hard time seeing PATFO going into a full on tank mode. They want to stay competitive. So I'm guessing they think pretty highly of the Murray, White, Walker combination going forward.

-regardless of if we get rid of Demar and add Bojan, or keep it how we have it, we still need more depth and length on the wing that's not a 6'5" guard.
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I could see the brass deciding they want to move forward with the young guards and DD would need to be moved for a legit SF.
 
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