PatAg said:

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I hate to be a broken record, but how is this show just so clearly a step above the others in terms of the technical aspects?

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I suspect a lot of it deals with the Volume. They have learned how to use it to a better and more seamless effect. And they have more processing power now than they did 3 years ago.

Someone on the Force.net said the paddles that led to the World between the Worlds were in Luthen's shop but I did not see them on first glance.

TCTTS said:

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Well said. This also has the advantage of needing to feature the same general aesthetic as Rogue One, which was shot by Greg Fraser, who also shot Dune and The Batman, two of the best-looking blockbusters of the century. So, luckily, this had to keep with the same, gorgeous standard, so it feels in line with Rogue One, and can lead directly into it.

But yeah, Lucasfilm definitely needs to drop the Deborah Chows of the industry and start going after the Gilroys. Hopefully now that they're seeing what can be achieved, and how over-the-moon well-received Andor is, other filmmakers of Gilroy's caliber will be more willing as well.

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Although its definitely not as simple as getting just any movie director, as some of the films have proven. (and some of the shows have had people with movie experience)

I'm not even sure it needs to be a "movie broken into 45 minute segments", as there is no reason they cant be made in the format of a tv show. I think its more of a fundamental/artistic approach, and some of the people chosen to run the shows so far are just lacking vision perhaps.
This definitely removes any excuse anyone could make for the other shows, as it proves you CAN do it in this universe.

schmidthead said:

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Who is Cousin? I must've missed this.

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Thee guy with the buzzcut as the rebel camp (alliance?) who catches the other guy sleeping.
That actor was in the tv show The Bear that was really popular this summer, and he would say "Cousin" a lot instead of calling the other character by his name.

This episode pissed me off because it felt too short, I wanted more.

Weird. It felt the longest to me, especially with the cutting back and forth between the three stories.

RIP in peace

I'm assuming at some point in these 2 seasons we're going to see more of Bail Organa and Alderaan. This is a real opportunity to showcase the beauty and peacefulness of Alderaan and how someone like Palpatine would view that as a massive threat. No offense to Cassian, but I'm so excited about the Coruscant/Rebellion formation stuff!

I have a prediction that at some point in this series, Alderaan or Bail Organa in particular does something that really shows the Empire up in a non-violent way, maybe even personally humiliates Palpatine in the public forum.

Like something the equivalent of a viral video showing Palpatine transforming from kindly Senator to military despot, or even something wild like stolen footage of him fighting Yoda with his Sith Powers in the Senate chamber and calling him a SIth Lord or whatever. Something that loyal Imperialists will call a trick and oppressed systems will see as the truth that makes them want to stand up. For anyone who remembers the original "V" back in the 1980s, there was a part on the mini-series where the Resistance takes over some hospital gala where the Visitors announce a cure for cancer and rip off their leader's human mask to show the lizard face below.

Nothing that dramatic, since Palpatine would straight kill anyone who did that, but something really jarring and extreme that leads him to disbanding the Senate and very specifically targeting Alderaan for revenge.

One of the more interesting things from ANH was Tarkin blowing up Alderaan. I have to think if Lucas had it to do over he would pick another random planet.

Something along these lines would be so cool.

Right. But it could still add to the why, and give the decision a bit more history.

PatAg said:

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I hate to be a broken record, but how is this show just so clearly a step above the others in terms of the technical aspects?

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They're not using The Volume (LED stage). Everything is shot in a location. All of the other shows have used The Volume for budget reasons.

Haven't looked into it but I'm fairly sure it's both.

Exactly.

ABATTBQ11 said:

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This wouldn't really make any sense. Tarkin chose Alderaan to get Leia to talk in A New Hope. That's the only reason it specifically was destroyed by the Death Star.

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It seems like too big of a decision to be on the whim of Grand Moff. I'd like to see something tying Palpatine to that decision. Tarkin shouldn't have been in position to throw the switch on annihilating a Core World. Feels more like 2 birds with one stone.

ABATTBQ11 said:

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PatAg said:

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I hate to be a broken record, but how is this show just so clearly a step above the others in terms of the technical aspects?

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They're not using The Volume (LED stage). Everything is shot in a location. All of the other shows have used The Volume for budget reasons.

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To add to this, there were some pretty cool set leak photos that surfaced of them filming at different locations. I would link the Reddit thread, but there's some spoilers on potential plot points and whatnot in it .

If y'all want to find them, YOU WERE WARNED. Just Google 'andor leaks & information compilation reddit' and it should be the first link to pop-up.

The Porkchop Express said:

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ABATTBQ11 said:

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This wouldn't really make any sense. Tarkin chose Alderaan to get Leia to talk in A New Hope. That's the only reason it specifically was destroyed by the Death Star.

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It seems like too big of a decision to be on the whim of Grand Moff. I'd like to see something tying Palpatine to that decision. Tarkin shouldn't have been in position to throw the switch on annihilating a Core World. Feels more like 2 birds with one stone.

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Puts the cart before the horse. If Palpatine wanted Alderaan destroyed with the Death Star, it would have been going there regardless of Leia and probably have been mentioned when Vader was meeting with the admirals and Tarkin since Palpatine had already dissolved the Senate. Neither of those is the case.

With the Senate or of the way, the Tarkin, Vader, et al were free to do whatever they wanted in pursuit of the rebels.

I think it's open to interpretation. Just like when Vader tells Obi-Wan "When I left you I was but the learner, now I am the Master."

ABATTBQ11 said:

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https://www.thedigitalfix.com/star-wars/andor-writer-volume-technology

No, they didn't use it. Didn't work with their workflow. It can be both, but they choose not to use it.

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In an interview with The Digital Fix, Gilroy, who also wrote the Star Wars movie Rogue One, told us exactly why The Volume wasn't part of the production process for Andor.

"There's a lot of misinformation about that. The Volume is an amazing development in filmmaking, and it's just going to get better and better and cheaper and easier to use. The problem with it is, you kind of have to make a choice about what kind of show you're going to make. Maybe a big movie like Bond or something can say 'okay we're going to do these three scenes on The Volume and the rest we're going to do for real.' We didn't have that opportunity," Gilroy said.

"Our workflow is very much an either-or situation. The Volume means you do all the post-production work first, and then you shoot your plates and do everything on the stage and then you're done," Gilroy explained. "For us, we go out and shoot, shoot, shoot, and then we add all the post after. It's not a good workflow mix, so there's no opportunity to do both; there's times we'd like to but you just can't."

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Good to know.

ABATTBQ11 said:

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https://www.thedigitalfix.com/star-wars/andor-writer-volume-technology

No, they didn't use it. Didn't work with their workflow. It can be both, but they chose not to use it.

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In an interview with The Digital Fix, Gilroy, who also wrote the Star Wars movie Rogue One, told us exactly why The Volume wasn't part of the production process for Andor.

"There's a lot of misinformation about that. The Volume is an amazing development in filmmaking, and it's just going to get better and better and cheaper and easier to use. The problem with it is, you kind of have to make a choice about what kind of show you're going to make. Maybe a big movie like Bond or something can say 'okay we're going to do these three scenes on The Volume and the rest we're going to do for real.' We didn't have that opportunity," Gilroy said.

"Our workflow is very much an either-or situation. The Volume means you do all the post-production work first, and then you shoot your plates and do everything on the stage and then you're done," Gilroy explained. "For us, we go out and shoot, shoot, shoot, and then we add all the post after. It's not a good workflow mix, so there's no opportunity to do both; there's times we'd like to but you just can't."

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I always appreciate it when they share an inside look at the process.
I miss Directors Commentaries

ABATTBQ11 said:

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The Porkchop Express said:

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ABATTBQ11 said:

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This wouldn't really make any sense. Tarkin chose Alderaan to get Leia to talk in A New Hope. That's the only reason it specifically was destroyed by the Death Star.

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It seems like too big of a decision to be on the whim of Grand Moff. I'd like to see something tying Palpatine to that decision. Tarkin shouldn't have been in position to throw the switch on annihilating a Core World. Feels more like 2 birds with one stone.

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Puts the cart before the horse. If Palpatine wanted Alderaan destroyed with the Death Star, it would have been going there regardless of Leia and probably have been mentioned when Vader was meeting with the admirals and Tarkin since Palpatine had already dissolved the Senate. Neither of those is the case.

With the Senate or of the way, the Tarkin, Vader, et al were free to do whatever they wanted in pursuit of the rebels.

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They could still depict Alderaan and the Organa's being a thorn in his side, which they would definitely be.

I do think trying to to tie the shows back to the movies is how we generally end up with crappy movies/shows, though. So might not be the best thing to hope for.

if something makes sense to include in the story you are trying to tell, there is no harm in doing so. Just dont force it.