jokershady said:

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Yeah but that's actually hilarious….

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Brian Earl Spilner said:

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You may need to adjust your tv if Tatooine looked gray to you.

Looked brown to me, the same color deserts have always been.

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AliasMan02 said:

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The thing is, I'm sure the bigots convinced themselves Ewan would somehow agree with them. Delusion and hate go so hand in hand.

Seeing very few anti-Moses Twitter posts and those that exist are getting ratioed to hell. Love to see it.

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Brian Earl Spilner said:

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You may need to adjust your tv if Tatooine looked gray to you.

Looked brown to me, the same color deserts have always been.

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Chipotlemonger said:

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TCTTS said:

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Seriously. And it's not like Disney/Lucasfilm doesn't have the money to shoot on location. Even Moon Knight shot in the Jordan desert (as did Episode IX, of course). I just can't comprehend the overall bargain basement vibe here. Of all projects.

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There needs to be a serious study into Rogue One and why that movie was such a step above everything else since 1983. (Or maybe even 1980 for that matter!)

Was wondering when you would be in here with your thoughts. I have been okay with the show so far, but definitely closer to average than great. FWIW, this is my first live action SW show to watch.

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TCTTS said:

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Yeah, I'm sorry, but that was bad. Like, really bad.

After a busy holiday weekend, and all the negative reactions, I only just got now around to watching the first episode, and it was somehow even worse than I was expecting.

I mean, it really does look like something that belongs on the SyFy channel. In terms of the cinematography, I still can't believe how bland and dull and TV-ish it all appears. Why all the hand-held, shaky cam crap? Since when has Star Wars ever done that? And why are they seemingly going out of their way to make everything look like a set? Also, why in the hell is Tatooine gray? This should be one of the most cinematic projects Star Wars has ever done - Obi-Wan as Lawrence of Arabia, with rich, golden sand, sprawling, heat-hazed vistas, etc - but instead, this thing just *screams* sound stage in Manhattan Beach, and then they decided to desaturate everything, to really bring out the digital quality of the picture, just to make sure we got the point.

Then of course there's the acting. I love Benny Safdie, but that dude does not belong in something like this - certainly not as a Jedi - and despite being good/entertaining elsewhere, he just straight up can't act in this world. Ooof. Then, yeah, despite everything that's gone down today, I hate to say it, but Moses Ingram is horribly miscast as well. Her version of Reva is just baaad, to the point of almost being cringeworthy. Like, when a semi-famous athlete is cast in an action a movie, and against everyone's better judgment, is given way more to do than otherwise should have been allowed.

Man.

I just can't believe THAT was the pilot for something we've been anticipating for so long; something that should have been a home run and handled with so much more care and reverence. Instead, what we got was a TV director doing her best SyFy impression, with one of the best actors/characters of the entire franchise somehow surrounded by a godawful supporting cast, and hardly anything compelling happening narratively.

That didn't even feel like Star Wars. At best, it came across as something Star Wars-adjascent, and just the slightest bit of an uptick from the prequels. How we're all the way back there again, after 17 years, is beyond me.

I'm sure there are kick-ass moments yet to come, and I'll no doubt be wowed by them in the moment, but good gosh, that was depressing as hell.

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Brian Earl Spilner said:

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How does something get ratio'd on Twitter when there's no dislikes?

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Urban Ag said:

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So let's all be fair here.

I agree with TCCTS completely in regards to the Reva character. I have nothing against this woman. I had no idea who she was until the last week. But the character was cringy. And when I say cringy I don't mean terrible. More like Anakin/Padme cringy. There is nothing wrong with pointing that out. What is wrong is beta losers who troll social media making it personal or even racist.

But here is my point. Many of you on this board made these same accusations at me and others when we didn't pop champagne corks for Black Panther. And we didn't even make anything remotely personal and absolutely not racist. The film just couldn't keep my interest. And as I noted, I felt the same about several MCU films including Thor 1 and 2 (and Hemsworth is about as close to "my peeps" as you can be), Dr Strange, Hulk, Captain Marvel, and both Iron Man 2 and 3 (and RDJ's "Stark" literally became my favorite franchise character of all time), I just didn't care for those films.

I loved the Tony Stark character 10x more in the Avengers films, Civil War, and Spiderman. Likewise, Black Panther and the whole Wakanda thing was cool AF in Civil War, Infinity War, and Endgame.

So I just wish everyone would tap the breaks and chill before making wild ass assumptions. Not being a big fan of Black Panther didn't mean you're an F16 pissed off white guy that can't stand the notion of an African centric MCU film. Likewise, not being impressed with the Reva character.

I'm all for taking out the trash. But too many of you on this board have been teed up to make bull**** accusations and implications towards posters who were critical of the performance of a person of color or a film they were featured in.

Sad really. I am in the generation that made Eddie Murphy, Halle Berry, Will Smith, Denzel, Martin Lawrence, Arsenio, on and on, the very wealthy stars they became. All we cared about was the product and it was good.

I really miss the 80's and 90's. We were on such a better trajectory.

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Brian Earl Spilner said:

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I do find it interesting that of all your complaints, one wasn't the chase scenes, by far the worst part of the show so far imo.

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Urban Ag said:

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So let's all be fair here.

I agree with TCCTS completely in regards to the Reva character. I have nothing against this woman. I had no idea who she was until the last week. But the character was cringy. And when I say cringy I don't mean terrible. More like Anakin/Padme cringy. There is nothing wrong with pointing that out. What is wrong is beta losers who troll social media making it personal or even racist.

But here is my point. Many of you on this board made these same accusations at me and others when we didn't pop champagne corks for Black Panther. And we didn't even make anything remotely personal and absolutely not racist. The film just couldn't keep my interest. And as I noted, I felt the same about several MCU films including Thor 1 and 2 (and Hemsworth is about as close to "my peeps" as you can be), Dr Strange, Hulk, Captain Marvel, and both Iron Man 2 and 3 (and RDJ's "Stark" literally became my favorite franchise character of all time), I just didn't care for those films.

I loved the Tony Stark character 10x more in the Avengers films, Civil War, and Spiderman. Likewise, Black Panther and the whole Wakanda thing was cool AF in Civil War, Infinity War, and Endgame.

So I just wish everyone would tap the breaks and chill before making wild ass assumptions. Not being a big fan of Black Panther didn't mean you're an F16 pissed off white guy that can't stand the notion of an African centric MCU film. Likewise, not being impressed with the Reva character.

I'm all for taking out the trash. But too many of you on this board have been teed up to make bull**** accusations and implications towards posters who were critical of the performance of a person of color or a film they were featured in.

Sad really. I am in the generation that made Eddie Murphy, Halle Berry, Will Smith, Denzel, Martin Lawrence, Arsenio, on and on, the very wealthy stars they became. All we cared about was the product and it was good.

I really miss the 80's and 90's. We were on such a better trajectory.

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