The Porkchop Express said:
Considering they got away with poisoning Jon Arryn and had Pycelle in their back pocket, you'd think Cersei could have dumped a bucket of the Tears of Lys into Robert's drink basically any time given how much that dummy was drinking all day long.
canadiaggie said:The Porkchop Express said:
Considering they got away with poisoning Jon Arryn and had Pycelle in their back pocket, you'd think Cersei could have dumped a bucket of the Tears of Lys into Robert's drink basically any time given how much that dummy was drinking all day long.
Technically I thought Littlefinger convinced Lysa to poison Jon Arryn and blame it on the Lannisters. I like the theory that Sweetrobin is Littlefinger's *******
bluefire579 said:
An ending I was kind of half rooting for was Littefinger ending up on the throne. I always envisioned it (stemming from the quote about him burning the kingdom down to rule over the ashes) as him sitting there on the Iron Throne, all the other main players either dead or fled from the realm, as the White Walkers descend on King's Landing. Littlefinger finally getting what he wants, ****ing over everyone else just to call himself king.
That might be too dark even for GRRM, but I always felt it would be absolutely fitting.
Wow, I made a similar comment before Season 8 of a final scene with a mad Qyburn on the throne laughing while the undead mountain fights off a million wights and the Night King enters the throne room - fade to black.bluefire579 said:
An ending I was kind of half rooting for was Littefinger ending up on the throne. I always envisioned it (stemming from the quote about him burning the kingdom down to rule over the ashes) as him sitting there on the Iron Throne, all the other main players either dead or fled from the realm, as the White Walkers descend on King's Landing. Littlefinger finally getting what he wants, ****ing over everyone else just to call himself king.
That might be too dark even for GRRM, but I always felt it would be absolutely fitting.
I get this but I thoroughly enjoyed his downfall with the Stark girlsbluefire579 said:
An ending I was kind of half rooting for was Littefinger ending up on the throne. I always envisioned it (stemming from the quote about him burning the kingdom down to rule over the ashes) as him sitting there on the Iron Throne, all the other main players either dead or fled from the realm, as the White Walkers descend on King's Landing. Littlefinger finally getting what he wants, ****ing over everyone else just to call himself king.
That might be too dark even for GRRM, but I always felt it would be absolutely fitting.
Should have sent him to the wall. Murdering him in cold blood in your father's hall is something the Boltons would do.Lonestar_Ag09 said:I get this but I thoroughly enjoyed his downfall with the Stark girlsbluefire579 said:
An ending I was kind of half rooting for was Littefinger ending up on the throne. I always envisioned it (stemming from the quote about him burning the kingdom down to rule over the ashes) as him sitting there on the Iron Throne, all the other main players either dead or fled from the realm, as the White Walkers descend on King's Landing. Littlefinger finally getting what he wants, ****ing over everyone else just to call himself king.
That might be too dark even for GRRM, but I always felt it would be absolutely fitting.
Aria nonchalantly slitting his throat was a great moment in the series.bluefire579 said:
Yeah, he, Tyrion, and Varys all went south when they stopped having book material to go off of.
I seem to recall that she had the goofy Lannister squire put milk of the poppy or something in his wine to make sure he was good and f-d up. Still kind of amounts to hoping, though.bluefire579 said:I don't believe so, but then again, we only get Cersei chapters starting in book 3 or 4, so we don't know her mindset, we only have Lancel's confession in book 2. It looking like an accident was always key.canadiaggie said:bluefire579 said:That's not true. He was going to tell Robert, but Robert got gored by a hog before he could tell him. His mistake was telling Cersei what he knew with the thought she'd flee the city, when instead she orchestrated Robert's death, gathered power, and took control of the throne.AgE2theBONE said:The Porkchop Express said:
Ned's problem was he pussed out on telling Robert that none of the kids were actually his. If he had told him that on his death bed, he would have either made Ned or Stannis the king, and the 7 kingdoms would have been run with an iron fist, all the BS squabbling kicked to the curb, and Dany wouldn't have known jack squat about how to take Westeros because Varya and Tyrion's asses would have been dead or at the Wall.
True.
Ned screwed up by not supporting Robert to deal with Dany. And he screwed up by not telling Robert his kids weren't really his. And made both those mistakes out of fear of kids being killed.
Instead, countless thousands were killed.
Nice job Eddard.
The crazy part is that Cersei's plot to have Robert killed was just to get him really drunk and HOPE something went wrong during the hunt.
Am I forgetting something in the book? Was there a contingency?
KidDoc said:
Just caught up on the series and thread after a trip. I'm loving it but Daemon's big charge was dumb. I get why they did it and such but it required marvel level of suspension of reality.
Are we sure crab feeder had grayscale? I thought he had burn scars from past dragon encounters and that was why he was more cautious about the sky when Daemon was charging.
Thanks for the response. I've only read the original GoT stuff, not the later stuff he wrote instead of finishing the saga.AgE2theBONE said:KidDoc said:
Just caught up on the series and thread after a trip. I'm loving it but Daemon's big charge was dumb. I get why they did it and such but it required marvel level of suspension of reality.
Are we sure crab feeder had grayscale? I thought he had burn scars from past dragon encounters and that was why he was more cautious about the sky when Daemon was charging.
He may not have had grayscale in the show. He did in the source material.
he was executed for crimes against the Starks, though technically Sansa should have wielded the blade to be true to Ned's beliefs of the one passing judgement should wield the blade. It's very much something that the Starks would have done to a traitor.The Porkchop Express said:Should have sent him to the wall. Murdering him in cold blood in your father's hall is something the Boltons would do.Lonestar_Ag09 said:I get this but I thoroughly enjoyed his downfall with the Stark girlsbluefire579 said:
An ending I was kind of half rooting for was Littefinger ending up on the throne. I always envisioned it (stemming from the quote about him burning the kingdom down to rule over the ashes) as him sitting there on the Iron Throne, all the other main players either dead or fled from the realm, as the White Walkers descend on King's Landing. Littlefinger finally getting what he wants, ****ing over everyone else just to call himself king.
That might be too dark even for GRRM, but I always felt it would be absolutely fitting.
But not in the hall of their forefathers.Icecream_Ag said:he was executed for crimes against the Starks, though technically Sansa should have wielded the blade to be true to Ned's beliefs of the one passing judgement should wield the blade. It's very much something that the Starks would have done to a traitor.The Porkchop Express said:Should have sent him to the wall. Murdering him in cold blood in your father's hall is something the Boltons would do.Lonestar_Ag09 said:I get this but I thoroughly enjoyed his downfall with the Stark girlsbluefire579 said:
An ending I was kind of half rooting for was Littefinger ending up on the throne. I always envisioned it (stemming from the quote about him burning the kingdom down to rule over the ashes) as him sitting there on the Iron Throne, all the other main players either dead or fled from the realm, as the White Walkers descend on King's Landing. Littlefinger finally getting what he wants, ****ing over everyone else just to call himself king.
That might be too dark even for GRRM, but I always felt it would be absolutely fitting.
The Porkchop Express said:But not in the hall of their forefathers.Icecream_Ag said:he was executed for crimes against the Starks, though technically Sansa should have wielded the blade to be true to Ned's beliefs of the one passing judgement should wield the blade. It's very much something that the Starks would have done to a traitor.The Porkchop Express said:Should have sent him to the wall. Murdering him in cold blood in your father's hall is something the Boltons would do.Lonestar_Ag09 said:I get this but I thoroughly enjoyed his downfall with the Stark girlsbluefire579 said:
An ending I was kind of half rooting for was Littefinger ending up on the throne. I always envisioned it (stemming from the quote about him burning the kingdom down to rule over the ashes) as him sitting there on the Iron Throne, all the other main players either dead or fled from the realm, as the White Walkers descend on King's Landing. Littlefinger finally getting what he wants, ****ing over everyone else just to call himself king.
That might be too dark even for GRRM, but I always felt it would be absolutely fitting.
The Porkchop Express said:
Yeah it's a small quibbble in the grand scheme of bizarre decisions. I just remember thinking how far gone that was from the way the Starks handled their affairs.
Jimmy McNulty said:
I assumed daemon intentionally didn't go through with it and assumed Rhy would have to lie to cover up the truth.
The Dog Lord said:Jimmy McNulty said:
I assumed daemon intentionally didn't go through with it and assumed Rhy would have to lie to cover up the truth.
I thought it was intentional as well, but that is definitely not what they said in the Inside the Episode piece
