*** GoT: House of the Dragon ***

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Continues to be spot on.
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He had real Augie Garrido vibes this episode.
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It's great how similarly shot that scene was to the episode of Season 1 of GoT where Arya and Nymeria **** up Joffrey and throw his sword in the river (not sure if that happened in the show). But regardless, the scene happens outside of King's Landing where the King is a guest, not in his own comforts, and thus things get even more chaotic and you've got 50-100 onlookers peering on to see the show, whereas in KL - beyond the fact that it probably never would have happened anyways - there's a real set protocol where all the servants and staff and guards are pushing out the riff-raff. Too much happened at once for them the Targs to really think about what they were doing at Driftmark.

And 2 points for King Viserys for having bigger balls than Robert Baratheon and put the queen in her place. And also 2 points to Otto for evolving in his plotting and staying 100% silent in that situation, letting the chips fall where they may without him getting accused of anything.

We had to rewind to rewatch Christon Cole's face when the queen demands he get "an eye for an eye." He looks like the guy who's been casually hooking up with a girl and suddenly sees her in the middle of the bar loudly calling him her boyfriend.

EDIT to add - last night was the first time I felt the older casting of Rhaenyra was a big miss. The chemistry between the younger actress and Matt Smith was undeniable and made the attraction a lot more believable. To only get 1 scene together with the older actress before they're knocking it out did not capture that chemistry. No fault on the actors, just hard to do.
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option short side said:

combat wombat said:

The king really needs to get Alicent in check.
and Christon Cole. I get he is the queen's protector but his first allegiance is to the King

How was his first allegiance not to the king last night (wondering if I missed something)? He told the queen he was her protector when she ordered him to take the kid's eye. That was out of his role of responsibilities and he told her .
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Stive said:

option short side said:

combat wombat said:

The king really needs to get Alicent in check.
and Christon Cole. I get he is the queen's protector but his first allegiance is to the King

How was his first allegiance not to the king last night (wondering if I missed something)? He told the queen he was her protector when she ordered him to take the kid's eye. That was out of his role of responsibilities and he told her .
iirc he looked to the guard commander who gave him a "WTF" look before he said that.
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I think the Sea Snake and the old ass dragon are my favorite characters in this show.
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I may hate Alicent but Olivia Cooke has that Emmy nom locked up for next year imo.
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Rhea!
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Brian Earl Spilner said:

I may hate Alicent but Olivia Cooke has that Emmy nom locked up for next year imo.
I hope not. I don't care for her acting or maybe just the way they wrote her character.
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Yeah hoping Rhea wins it. Overdue.
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The dagger that Alicent used and dropped, is that the dagger they tried to kill Bran with?
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AgsMnn said:

The dagger that Alicent used and dropped, is that the dagger they tried to kill Bran with?

That's the impression I got.
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Where y'all been on this.

They made a huge show of it in the first episode - literally the same set piece from GOT.
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AgsMnn said:

The dagger that Alicent used and dropped, is that the dagger they tried to kill Bran with?


Pretty sure Viserys is also sitting on the same throne that Joffrey did in GoT.
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Brian Earl Spilner said:

AgsMnn said:

The dagger that Alicent used and dropped, is that the dagger they tried to kill Bran with?


Pretty sure Viserys is also sitting on the same throne that Joffrey did in GoT.
How did I miss that?
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Brian Earl Spilner said:

Yeah hoping Rhea wins it. Overdue.


Daemons first wife?
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Played Kim on Better Call Saul.
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easttexasaggie04 said:

I think the Sea Snake and the old ass dragon are my favorite characters in this show.
Don't watch the next episode then.

THE Sea Snake is mentioned in the preview for the next episode by name.
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powerbelly said:

Brian Earl Spilner said:

AgsMnn said:

The dagger that Alicent used and dropped, is that the dagger they tried to kill Bran with?


Pretty sure Viserys is also sitting on the same throne that Joffrey did in GoT.
How did I miss that?


Haha

Did not catch it in the first episode. Lighting was too bright.

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Looks like we are at the point where we can all check out of this thread and wait until next week. The "off season" stage is about to set in for the next 6 days.
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Definitely Not A Cop said:

Brian Earl Spilner said:

Yeah hoping Rhea wins it. Overdue.


Daemons first wife?
Nahhh...DeVito's.
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A big thank you to this episode for not having a child birthing scene requiring this thread to s**t itself for the next week.
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The Porkchop Express said:

It's great how similarly shot that scene was to the episode of Season 1 of GoT where Arya and Nymeria **** up Joffrey and throw his sword in the river (not sure if that happened in the show). But regardless, the scene happens outside of King's Landing where the King is a guest, not in his own comforts, and thus things get even more chaotic and you've got 50-100 onlookers peering on to see the show, whereas in KL - beyond the fact that it probably never would have happened anyways - there's a real set protocol where all the servants and staff and guards are pushing out the riff-raff. Too much happened at once for them the Targs to really think about what they were doing at Driftmark.

And 2 points for King Viserys for having bigger balls than Robert Baratheon and put the queen in her place. And also 2 points to Otto for evolving in his plotting and staying 100% silent in that situation, letting the chips fall where they may without him getting accused of anything.

We had to rewind to rewatch Christon Cole's face when the queen demands he get "an eye for an eye." He looks like the guy who's been casually hooking up with a girl and suddenly sees her in the middle of the bar loudly calling him her boyfriend.

EDIT to add - last night was the first time I felt the older casting of Rhaenyra was a big miss. The chemistry between the younger actress and Matt Smith was undeniable and made the attraction a lot more believable. To only get 1 scene together with the older actress before they're knocking it out did not capture that chemistry. No fault on the actors, just hard to do.


In ref to your last paragraph. I'm pretty sure in the BTS video of that episode the show runners mention that the funeral/post funeral reception scene is the first scene shot of the whole series. So that could be why the actors/actresses don't have a lot of chemistry going on.
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They could have had one in the background, but it was too dark to see
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How long do dragon's live? Seems like a bold move for Aemond to claim Vhagar, considering Vhagar looks like he's getting up there in dragon years and humans can only bond with one dragon in their lifetime.
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Teddy Perkins said:

How long do dragon's live? Seems like a bold move for Aemond to claim Vhagar, considering Vhagar looks like he's getting up there in dragon years and humans can only bond with one dragon in their lifetime.
Why? It seems the limiting factor is the number of dragons, not the ability to bond with a dragon.
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Aemond is young, if Vhagar dies of old age next year, that's it for his dragon riding days. And are we sure there is a shortage of dragons or is it that Aemond has just had issues bonding with the available dragons?
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Teddy Perkins said:

Aemond is young, if Vhagar dies of old age next year, that's it for his dragon riding days. And are we sure there is a shortage of dragons or is it that Aemond has just had issues bonding with the available dragons?
I thought there was some dialog about not having a dragon for all the kids, but if they found more then they would be next in line.
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He couldn't hatch an egg; I believe he was given a few - as stated in the show.
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The Porkchop Express said:



EDIT to add - last night was the first time I felt the older casting of Rhaenyra was a big miss. The chemistry between the younger actress and Matt Smith was undeniable and made the attraction a lot more believable. To only get 1 scene together with the older actress before they're knocking it out did not capture that chemistry. No fault on the actors, just hard to do.


Now that we know there's a second time jump next week and the kids are aged up again, the kids would have looked older than Milly's Rhaenyra! (But I completely agree with what you're saying)
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Teddy Perkins said:

How long do dragon's live? Seems like a bold move for Aemond to claim Vhagar, considering Vhagar looks like he's getting up there in dragon years and humans can only bond with one dragon in their lifetime.


Balerion lived to be 200. Vhagar is about 170 right now give or take a few years.

That being said, Balerion had the misfortune of being flown to the ruin of Valyria by Aerea Targaryen when he was around 150-160 years old. When they returned, Aerea was half burned and was infested with parasites like chestbursters from Alien, and Balerion had severe wounds. After that, Balerion never flew again until Viserys claimed him, after which Balerion died in less than a year. It's possible that being cooped up in the Dragonpit after the flight to Valyria hastened his death.

So Vhagar could be a few decades away from death by old age, possibly more.
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Stive said:

option short side said:

combat wombat said:

The king really needs to get Alicent in check.
and Christon Cole. I get he is the queen's protector but his first allegiance is to the King

How was his first allegiance not to the king last night (wondering if I missed something)? He told the queen he was her protector when she ordered him to take the kid's eye. That was out of his role of responsibilities and he told her .
Obviously the King did not want him to take the eye. When the queen moved in on the kid, Cole had to be restrained by Daemon and other members of the king's guard. I got the impression Cole was going for the eye.
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I got the impression he was moving in to protect the Queen when she and Rhaenyra were facing off. It wasn't about the eye…that was earlier and he was still standing still when that happened. He didn't move until the ladies were attacking each other.
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Agreed
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Daemon v Ser Criston Cole a decade and a half later - who do you have?

Daemon has been battle tested beyond any man in Westeros at this point. When not at war, he likely does not train regularly.

Ser Criston has probably been training. Not sure if he is as hungry as he was in the early days, after the princess popped his cherry/vows. A different mental space than fighting with a chip on your shoulder.
 
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