*** GoT: House of the Dragon ***

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11:00a, 10/10/22
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Ned Stark did not underperform in the least seeing where his kids all ended up.
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11:03a, 10/10/22
Viserys is loyal to his decision naming Rhaenyra the heir of House Targaryen. It has been 20 years in the show since he named her heir.
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In reply to Brian Earl Spilner • 11:03a, 10/10/22
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Brian Earl Spilner said:
When Jace was toasting to Aegon and Aemond, he should've said "As men, I hope we can see eye to eye".



Also, i can't take Jace and Luke seriously because they look like hobbits.
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11:04a, 10/10/22
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Edit - Germans invaded my post - didn't read the previous posts - oops
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In reply to canadiaggie • 11:08a, 10/10/22
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I will not stand for Stannis slander here
I appreciate that Stannis was doing the right thing, and his "that'll do pig" head nod when Jon took off Janos Slynt's head, but his time as King could have been written as King Stannis: A series of unfortunate events"
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In reply to Brian Earl Spilner • 11:09a, 10/10/22
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Brian Earl Spilner said:
Ned Stark did not underperform in the least seeing where his kids all ended up.
Ned Stark failed in every way possible in his role as Hand of the King.
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In reply to Ol Jock 99 • 11:12a, 10/10/22
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Ol Jock 99 said:
Princess Rhaenys is one of my favorite minor characters. She is amazingly shrewd. Last week, she was ticked at her husband for keeping one of the Strong-boys are heir to Driftmark (and he replied with the best line so far "history doesn't remember blood, it remembers names" ) and this week she's pulling a quick-change on betrothals.

She'd be marrying her true-born granddaughters to the (illegitimate) second-in-line to the throne and to the heir of Drift(stone, mark... can't remember). Her husband gets his name remembered and the house gets its blood by way of the girls.
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11:13a, 10/10/22
Wow. Neat tidbit.



Also...
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11:14a, 10/10/22
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Princess Rhaenys was the big winner of the throne room scene. Didn't have to grovel, secured her granddaughter's legacy, and got rid of her biggest rival without lifting a finger.I find her the most likable character by a long stretch.
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In reply to CFTXAG10 • 11:14a, 10/10/22
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CFTXAG10 said:
"The boys are *******s !!" = stabbing through the back

"Their mother is a ***** !!" = Off with the head.
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In reply to The Porkchop Express • 11:15a, 10/10/22
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Princess Rhaenys was the big winner of the throne room scene. Didn't have to grovel, secured her granddaughter's legacy, and got rid of her biggest rival without lifting a finger.I find her the most likable character by a long stretch.
Except it seems 20 years seems to have been undone by his last words(I am guessing those are his last heard words).
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11:18a, 10/10/22
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Wow. The crown falling off and Daemon picking it up for his brother being an accident. Very well played, glad they kept it in.
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11:27a, 10/10/22
Whole thread AMA of Fabien Frankel aka Sir Criston Cole.

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In reply to OnlyForNow • 11:35a, 10/10/22
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Wow. The crown falling off and Daemon picking it up for his brother being an accident. Very well played, glad they kept it in.


I would have never guessed that was improvised. Those guys are such good actors.
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In reply to OnlyForNow • 11:36a, 10/10/22
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OnlyForNow said:
Wow. The crown falling off and Daemon picking it up for his brother being an accident. Very well played, glad they kept it in.
That's so freaking cool. Almost "Indy shoots the sword guy" level.
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In reply to Brian Earl Spilner • 11:37a, 10/10/22
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Brian Earl Spilner said:
When Jace was toasting to Aegon and Aemond, he should've said "As men, I hope we can see eye to eye".
I was hoping after his speech that they'd thank him for his compliment on their strength, and then compliment Aemond that he's always had an eye for strength. Maybe even go as far that the brothers would love to trade their favorite dagger for his discerning eye.
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12:22p, 10/10/22
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In reply to The Porkchop Express • 12:24p, 10/10/22
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The Porkchop Express said:
Brian Earl Spilner said:
Ned Stark did not underperform in the least seeing where his kids all ended up.
Ned Stark failed in every way possible in his role as Hand of the King.


Elaborate?
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In reply to Brian Earl Spilner • 12:26p, 10/10/22
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Brian Earl Spilner said:
The Porkchop Express said:
Brian Earl Spilner said:
Ned Stark did not underperform in the least seeing where his kids all ended up.
Ned Stark failed in every way possible in his role as Hand of the King.


Elaborate?
It's explained in this book between pages 1 and 694

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In reply to The Porkchop Express • 12:27p, 10/10/22
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There's obvious things he could've handled better, but in the end there was a Stark on the Iron Throne and another in the North, is my point.
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In reply to Brian Earl Spilner • 12:30p, 10/10/22
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Brian Earl Spilner said:
There's obvious things he could've handled better, but in the end there was a Stark on the Iron Throne and another in the North, is my point.
So the end justifies the means?
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In reply to The Porkchop Express • 12:32p, 10/10/22
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I wouldn't consider Ned Stark a failure, but that's just me.

But back to HotD...
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In reply to Brian Earl Spilner • 12:39p, 10/10/22
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Brian Earl Spilner said:
There's obvious things he could've handled better, but in the end there was a Stark on the Iron Throne and another in the North, is my point.


"Ok, listen up kids. I'm going down to Kings Landing, I'm going to play the game poorly and get my head cut off. But don't worry, after a few of you die, one of you gets raped, and my wife gets killed, you'll end up in a good place in the end. Have a good rest of your life!"

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In reply to Ol Jock 99 • 12:44p, 10/10/22
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In one scene, we have Rhaenyra, Rhaenys, and Rhaena all talking.
It's not the number of names to remember, it's the names themselves. Would I like it if their names were Sally, Carol, and Tiffany? Probably not, but it would be easier.
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2:09p, 10/10/22
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In reply to Brian Earl Spilner • 2:11p, 10/10/22
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He nailed it. Best performance out of all the actors.
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In reply to Brian Earl Spilner • 2:22p, 10/10/22
Brian Earl Spilner said:
I wouldn't consider Ned Stark a failure, but that's just me.

But back to HotD...


Maybe always take this approach? It's a show discussion thread. You always end with, "agree to disagree" which goes without saying. Everyone has an opinion and I'm not sure why there is always need to debate one that differs from yours
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In reply to deer corn • 2:27p, 10/10/22
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It's a show discussion thread, so don't discuss the show? Okay.

Granted, in this case it was off-topic, which is why I dropped it. (But I didn't bring it up.)
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2:37p, 10/10/22
Carry on then! We love it.
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2:44p, 10/10/22
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So are we thinking that really was Plan T, or was that just flat out poison? I'm 90% sure it was just Plan T and Alicent hasn't gone full Cersei in this show, but I keep thinking about the line where the other servant girl comes in and says "Where is Dyana, she was supposed to help.......?". If it was just Plan T, wouldn't she be able to continue on with her job? But still, I'm leaning towards it just being Plan T and she was just too distraught and needed the rest of the day off.
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In reply to Phrasing • 2:45p, 10/10/22
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I would think Plan T. She doesn't seem like she is up for random murder yet.
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In reply to powerbelly • 2:47p, 10/10/22
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Not random. A threat to Aegon's image and the family name.
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2:48p, 10/10/22
Why give her a bag of coin if it was to kill her?

Hush money, and get her to leave Kings Landing.
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2:48p, 10/10/22
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I definitely agree that it was Plan T, but the only thing that seemed weird was the hug to her daughter at the end of the scene. It could be either sympathetic for her ******* husband, or for the fact that she is about to lose her servant / possibly friend?
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In reply to Phrasing • 2:48p, 10/10/22
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Phrasing said:
Not random. A threat to Aegon's image and the family name.
*******s aren't the threat like others that her house is facing.
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