Kliff has a track record of never winning dick as a head coach. When you have Pat Mahomes on your team in the B12 and still can't win, you suck. Love the idea of KK as OC, but no thanks on HC
Oh my. Washington was the last team with a longer stretch of no nfc championship games. Now it is Dallas. 16th worst drought in a 16 team conference.
— Bob Sturm (@SportsSturm) January 19, 2025
Last NFC Championship Game appearance:
— RJ Ochoa (@rjochoa) January 19, 2025
- Dallas Cowboys, 1995
- Chicago Bears, 2010
- New York Giants, 2011
- Seattle Seahawks, 2014
- Carolina Panthers, 2015
- Arizona Cardinals, 2015
- Atlanta Falcons, 2016
- Minnesota Vikings, 2017
- New Orleans Saints, 2018
- Green Bay…
J.P. 03 said:
Not only do we have the longest drought, if this tweet is accurate, the gap between us and the 15th place team is 15 years:Last NFC Championship Game appearance:
— RJ Ochoa (@rjochoa) January 19, 2025
- Dallas Cowboys, 1995
- Chicago Bears, 2010
- New York Giants, 2011
- Seattle Seahawks, 2014
- Carolina Panthers, 2015
- Arizona Cardinals, 2015
- Atlanta Falcons, 2016
- Minnesota Vikings, 2017
- New Orleans Saints, 2018
- Green Bay…
BMX Bandit said:
But guys, Jerry has 5 division titles in 10 years. Exceptional job! (according to some)
BMX Bandit said:
The reality is competing for and winning championships is what the Cowboys (used) to be known for.
The reality is every team in NFC has been closer to playing in the Super Bowl this century than the cowboys have.
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Bragging about winning division titles is something bad franchises do.
Infection_Ag11 said:BMX Bandit said:
The reality is competing for and winning championships is what the Cowboys (used) to be known for.
The reality is every team in NFC has been closer to playing in the Super Bowl this century than the cowboys have.
Not really, as many teams that make the conference title game have no shot whatsoever of winning a title. That's often just about fortune in terms of seeding draw and injuries.
For example, the 2007, 2014 and 2022 Cowboys were FAR better and more equipped to win a title than the 2019 Titans or the 2024 Redskins.
Making the conference title game in a vacuum doesn't really mean anything.Quote:
Bragging about winning division titles is something bad franchises do.
Bragging about doing anything short of winning a title is what teams that don't win titles do.
And for the record, by no metric is Dallas a bad franchise unless you're willing to label about 22 other franchises bad.
Tksymm7 said:
While I don't disagree that it's a marker of success and improvement, especially for the cowboys who haven't made one in 30 years, at the end of the day it's all about super bowls for every NFL franchise. Nobody gives a rats ass that the bills won four straight AFC conference championships. Everyone just remembers that they lost four super bowls. It's an arbitrary stat in the NFL.
VP at Pierce and Pierce said:Infection_Ag11 said:BMX Bandit said:
The reality is competing for and winning championships is what the Cowboys (used) to be known for.
The reality is every team in NFC has been closer to playing in the Super Bowl this century than the cowboys have.
Not really, as many teams that make the conference title game have no shot whatsoever of winning a title. That's often just about fortune in terms of seeding draw and injuries.
For example, the 2007, 2014 and 2022 Cowboys were FAR better and more equipped to win a title than the 2019 Titans or the 2024 Redskins.
Making the conference title game in a vacuum doesn't really mean anything.Quote:
Bragging about winning division titles is something bad franchises do.
Bragging about doing anything short of winning a title is what teams that don't win titles do.
And for the record, by no metric is Dallas a bad franchise unless you're willing to label about 22 other franchises bad.
Being able to say your team made the conference championship game shows they have taken big steps forward and knew how to advance in the playoffs despite not expected to; which is the opposite of the Cowboys.
Infection_Ag11 said:VP at Pierce and Pierce said:Infection_Ag11 said:BMX Bandit said:
The reality is competing for and winning championships is what the Cowboys (used) to be known for.
The reality is every team in NFC has been closer to playing in the Super Bowl this century than the cowboys have.
Not really, as many teams that make the conference title game have no shot whatsoever of winning a title. That's often just about fortune in terms of seeding draw and injuries.
For example, the 2007, 2014 and 2022 Cowboys were FAR better and more equipped to win a title than the 2019 Titans or the 2024 Redskins.
Making the conference title game in a vacuum doesn't really mean anything.Quote:
Bragging about winning division titles is something bad franchises do.
Bragging about doing anything short of winning a title is what teams that don't win titles do.
And for the record, by no metric is Dallas a bad franchise unless you're willing to label about 22 other franchises bad.
Being able to say your team made the conference championship game shows they have taken big steps forward and knew how to advance in the playoffs despite not expected to; which is the opposite of the Cowboys.
No it doesn't
Infection_Ag11 said:
And again, let's stop pretending that if they correctly call it a catch in 2014 and Dallas goes on to lose to Seattle in the conference title game any of you would be behaving differently. None of our fans that go on about this actually care about that as a meaningful metric, it's just about being incessantly negative. If it weren't that it would be something else. It's just so preposterously transparent:
Infection_Ag11 said:BMX Bandit said:
The reality is competing for and winning championships is what the Cowboys (used) to be known for.
The reality is every team in NFC has been closer to playing in the Super Bowl this century than the cowboys have.
Not really, as many teams that make the conference title game have no shot whatsoever of winning a title. That's often just about fortune in terms of seeding draw and injuries.
For example, the 2007, 2014 and 2022 Cowboys were FAR better and more equipped to win a title than the 2019 Titans or the 2024 Redskins.
Making the conference title game in a vacuum doesn't really mean anything.Quote:
Bragging about winning division titles is something bad franchises do.
Bragging about doing anything short of winning a title is what teams that don't win titles do.
And for the record, by no metric is Dallas a bad franchise unless you're willing to label about 22 other franchises bad.
I agree, but let's not base that on a game being played in the driving snow.Trucker 96 said:
Please please please do not hire Kellen Moore.
Trucker 96 said:
Please please please do not hire Kellen Moore.