Deandre Hopkins was traded for a fifth rounder last week…Titans should've been more intentional in reaching out to Jerry. They probably could've gotten a second.
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Well, I don't have an issue, at face value.
The guy is a physical freak that most of the league thought was a top 50 type player. He's on a rookie cheap contract for two more years. They also got a 7th rounder back so the value chart makes this essentially a 5th rounder. Maybe a bit rich, but it's not crazy on the surface.
The issue, and rightly so, is you can't just take this deal at face value and not factor in the other failures by this organization.
The guy is a physical freak that most of the league thought was a top 50 type player. He's on a rookie cheap contract for two more years. They also got a 7th rounder back so the value chart makes this essentially a 5th rounder. Maybe a bit rich, but it's not crazy on the surface.
The issue, and rightly so, is you can't just take this deal at face value and not factor in the other failures by this organization.
Zachary Klement said:
Deandre Hopkins was traded for a fifth rounder last week…Titans should've been more intentional in reaching out to Jerry. They probably could've gotten a second.
he's also old and expensive.
Mingo is young and cheap.
No, I know. It could end up being worth it, I just highly doubt there were many other teams offering a fourth or better for Mingo…it feels like he could've been had for cheaper than that.Macarthur said:Zachary Klement said:
Deandre Hopkins was traded for a fifth rounder last week…Titans should've been more intentional in reaching out to Jerry. They probably could've gotten a second.
he's also old and expensive.
Mingo is young and cheap.
Yeah, it's prob a round rich but getting a 7th back helps a little.
The other thing is the cowboys have like 10 picks in next years draft. I don't have an isssue turning one of those into Mingo and getting a jump start on seeing if he's got anything.
Again, would have preferred it be one of those 5th rounders instead of 4th.
The other thing is the cowboys have like 10 picks in next years draft. I don't have an isssue turning one of those into Mingo and getting a jump start on seeing if he's got anything.
Again, would have preferred it be one of those 5th rounders instead of 4th.
This - waves arms in every direction – is what happens when your franchise loses credibility with the public. The benefit of the doubt has left the building and rightfully so. But, I don't hate a trade like this personally. 😀
— Bob Sturm (@SportsSturm) November 5, 2024
Why are sending away draft picks? We're not on the cusp of anything
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This is my thing. Why on Earth are we trading FOR players and sending draft picks away. Even if Mingo is cheap and young, you can get that IN THE NEXT DRAFT IF YOU ACQUIRE MORE PICKS.
should be sellers, not buyers.
My view of these things is sort of skewed by fantasy football...there is a decent amount of data that shows that if a WR flops their rookie year, it is unlikely they amount to much later in their career...but I guess that is me looking at things more from a perspective of can they be a fantasy WR1 or WR2 rather than a serviceable NFL WR.Macarthur said:
Yeah, it's prob a round rich but getting a 7th back helps a little.
The other thing is the cowboys have like 10 picks in next years draft. I don't have an isssue turning one of those into Mingo and getting a jump start on seeing if he's got anything.
Again, would have preferred it be one of those 5th rounders instead of 4th.
Maybe it ends up being worth it, it just still feels like they could have gotten him cheaper.
Tksymm7 said:
This is my thing. Why on Earth are we trading FOR players and sending draft picks away. Even if Mingo is cheap and young, you can get that IN THE NEXT DRAFT IF YOU ACQUIRE MORE PICKS.
Again, Dallas has 10 picks. They have plenty of picks in the draft. I think most agree this was about a round too rich, but you're not going to find anyone with Mingo's athletic profile in the 4th round of next years draft.
Feel like this is Trey Lance all over again.Macarthur said:Tksymm7 said:
This is my thing. Why on Earth are we trading FOR players and sending draft picks away. Even if Mingo is cheap and young, you can get that IN THE NEXT DRAFT IF YOU ACQUIRE MORE PICKS.
Again, Dallas has 10 picks. They have plenty of picks in the draft. I think most agree this was about a round too rich, but you're not going to find anyone with Mingo's athletic profile in the 4th round of next years draft.
"He is a freak athlete and has tools"
"Yeah, but hes played like garbage so far hes been in the league"
"But look, hes a freak athlete that you are not going to find in the 4th"
...
still garbage.
Rather use those picks to trade up for in the draft for something we at least know is not garbage already.
Trading a fourth for a bum WR who hasn't shown anything when we could have gotten guys like Hop or Diontae, on the heels of Dak out four weeks minimum news? With where we are in the standings?
Jerry and Stephen are complete idiots.
Jerry and Stephen are complete idiots.
You could have had Diontae for a 6/7 swap.Macarthur said:Tksymm7 said:
This is my thing. Why on Earth are we trading FOR players and sending draft picks away. Even if Mingo is cheap and young, you can get that IN THE NEXT DRAFT IF YOU ACQUIRE MORE PICKS.
Again, Dallas has 10 picks. They have plenty of picks in the draft. I think most agree this was about a round too rich, but you're not going to find anyone with Mingo's athletic profile in the 4th round of next years draft.
This trade is so bad.
m-all-ingo
Other than QB and maybe CB, is there any position on this team that couldn't use an upgrade? I think our entire team is an area of need. I wouldn't mind 20 draft picks at this point, even if we need to spend 8 of them at defensive tackleMacarthur said:Tksymm7 said:
This is my thing. Why on Earth are we trading FOR players and sending draft picks away. Even if Mingo is cheap and young, you can get that IN THE NEXT DRAFT IF YOU ACQUIRE MORE PICKS.
Again, Dallas has 10 picks. They have plenty of picks in the draft. I think most agree this was about a round too rich, but you're not going to find anyone with Mingo's athletic profile in the 4th round of next years draft.
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Why is it so hard for this organization to just accept that it isn't happening this year, keep the picks and tank into the top 5?
I mean, it is one thing to be bad. Stuff happens man. But it is another thing to be stupid. I think the problem with Jones is his age won't allow him to not "try" even at the detriment to the future.
I mean, it is one thing to be bad. Stuff happens man. But it is another thing to be stupid. I think the problem with Jones is his age won't allow him to not "try" even at the detriment to the future.
I wouldn't argue your point. I guess since you have this guy cheap for two more years, I see this pretty much like a WR pick in the 25 draft that you're getting half a half a season early.
I guess it beats Jerry taking a guy with a horrible injury with that 4th round pick. Lucky we still have our 2nd rounder for that
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Cooper Rush to Trey LanceTyHolden said:Trey Lance hearing the Dak Prescott injury news pic.twitter.com/GZsFA2Qg4E
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ALL IN98Ag99Grad said:
should be sellers, not buyers.
There's absolutely no reason Cooper Rush should take starting snaps. We need to be sucking as much as possible.
Who are we to question the longest tenured GM in all of pro sports?
Yea, it was one thing to attempt to win that game.Tksymm7 said:
There's absolutely no reason Cooper Rush should take starting snaps. We need to be sucking as much as possible.
At this point, just see what Lance has in real games
Broaddus was talking about showcasing Lance in hopes that someone signs him next year so we earn a better comp pick.Macarthur said:
Perfect opportunity to showcase Lance and see what you got for the future or maybe a team sends you something for him.
Maybe the Mingo aitcha draft pick
But will Jerry do thatTksymm7 said:
There's absolutely no reason Cooper Rush should take starting snaps. We need to be sucking as much as possible.
The Panthers were willing to move Mingo because he got passed on the depth chart by a UDFA who played college football at Holy Cross. I wouldn't give a 4th for Mingo in a dynasty FF league and Jerry just did it in real life.
@NFLPlayerProps said:
The Panthers were willing to move Mingo because he got passed on the depth chart by a UDFA who played college football at Holy Cross. I wouldn't give a 4th for Mingo in a dynasty FF league and Jerry just did it in real life.
Someone should put a call out to APS, because Jerry is getting abused by players and other GMs based on the last few trades and signings.
NFL Live just spent the last 5 minutes going around the table saying that Jerry is a moron.
Sounds like us!
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I know what you're getting at, but this is a **** throw.
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