******* Cowboys Official Season Thread 2024 *******

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Cowboys are sitting at 3-3 and look at their next five opponents. This thing could really unravel.

49ers - LOSS
Falcons - 25% chance of W
Eagles - 25% chance of win
Texans - BAD LOSS
Commanders - 50/50 tossup
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Regardless of the cowboys issues, who gives any credence to what cowherd says?
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3rd worst scoring differential over 4 consecutive home
games in NFL history…….

But Jerry was "shocked"…..



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He has absolutely zero pulse on this team. I truly believe that this season needs to go incredibly bad for him to recognize that there are issues.
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Unfortunately, the problem is management. Playing hardball with homegrown players only to roll over at the last minute drives up salaries. Backloaded contracts means you have cap issues every year. We give the longest contracts in football and that also means we're in cap trouble years down the road. We are penny pinchers in free agency and constantly scrape the bargain bin for depth. We refuse to tear down, reset the cap, and start over. All of these things have been true since the late 90s, except when Parcells briefly had personnel control for a few years.

None of the Jones' in charge can look at the situation for 20+ years and think, "Maybe we're doing this wrong?" and start to make smarter moves and changes. So they're going to keep doing things the same way, and we're going to keep being not quite good enough.

Edit: so you can trade Parsons, hire new coaches and all the rest, and it won't mean anything until the personnel management improves. And that's only going to happen when Jerry and Stephen eat a piece of humble pie and start trying to be better at that job. In other words, probably never
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I don't have a problem with shelling out the money to keep Dak and Ceedee in a vacuum. They are both deserving of big contracts; either by us or other teams, they were going to get paid. My problem is with them getting those contracts with this roster. The roster is trash, and now you've got 75+ million tied up in two players on a team that feels like 7-10. This team needs a major influx of young, cheap talent, especially on defense.
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Tksymm7 said:

I don't have a problem with shelling out the money to keep Dak and Ceedee in a vacuum. They are both deserving of big contracts; either by us or other teams, they were going to get paid. My problem is with them getting those contracts with this roster. The roster is trash, and now you've got 75+ million tied up in two players on a team that feels like 7-10. This team needs a major influx of young, cheap talent, especially on defense.
I agree. They are good and you're not going to get anyone that good for cheap. The stupid brinksmanship is the problem. They could have had both of those deals done as soon as last season ended, and then they would have had money to get half decent FAs for the D line and RB. But that's not the Cowboy way. Instead, we play "hardball" and then give them everything they want at the last possible second. I don't know who they think are kidding when they pretend to be tough negotiators
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The thing that has plagued this team for quite a while is being weak in the interior of the defense. They have historically invested very little in DT, and when they did, they picked the wrong guy in Mazi.

They also haven't invested in a really good MLBer.
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Years ago they had some measure of success shopping the DT and MLB bargain bin, and they keep trying that approach even though it had long stopped working
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And, with 3 losses, say they go 9-8, they still won't get a top ten draft pick.
"Real skill comes without effort" - Mu Bai
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This DL is quite possibly the worst in the league.

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And getting whipped going into a bye week is gonna linger. Good news is that maybe it's enough time to get their heads straight before playing SF away.
"Real skill comes without effort" - Mu Bai
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Southlake said:

And, with 3 losses, say they go 9-8, they still won't get a top ten draft pick.



I don't think this team finishes above .500. When you can get run on at will, that's a tough spot for the offense to cover, and our offense doesn't look particularly daunting
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The team has the wombo combo of subpar talent, poor coaching, and bad culture. There are 3 players on the team that I've seen play with 100% effort regardless of the situation: Dak, Dono, and Overshown. Unfortunately all 3 of those guys have flaws, and when they press they make mistakes although I think that's true for all players. The team culture is just soft. When they run into a hard nosed, physical team like Detroit they just crumble. Diggs was out there making business decisions in the 1st quarter, Ceedee routinely takes plays off (and continues to run the wrong routes), and both lines continually get whipped. I don't think it matters what individual player is at any given position, this team just sucks and it's entirely a culture issue
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Jets fire their HC and OC and immediately look significantly better
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FightinFarrier18 said:

Jets fire their HC and OC and immediately look significantly better


Yeah they look awesome. That 20 point output is going to have the whole league on notice.
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Jerry is losing his mind.

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Not a huge Dak fan but I think he's capable of winning it all if surrounded by strong pieces and a good culture . Hes got neither . At this point though signing ANY big name guy is a waste of money because no single player can overcome that poor culture and terrible ownership.

The only chance this organization has is bringing in a massive presence at head coach that can overcome the organizational culture like Parcells and Jimmy did. Someone ownership literally fears and will not tread over. To me the only 2 people who can possibly be that answer are Belicek or Saban. Even those 2 guys are far from being slam dunks. I really just don't see this team winning a championship while Jerry or NepoBaby Stephen are in charge.

On a side note do we still have people on the boards saying "blaming ownership is beating a dead horse so stop " Because there's absolutely nobody else to blame but them.
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Fired up is quite the spin.

He threatened their jobs for asking him why the Cowboys didn't do more over the summer to improve the team through free agency.
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Here's the audio




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ol jer bear starting to show his true colors...
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Panama Red said:

Here's the audio





Yes, yes Jerry we are going to question you idiotic decisions ......The whole NFL world knows you haven't made a significant off season - free agency moves in years, AND that no team in this decade or more has made a Super Bowl run or won a Super Bowl whiteout making big moves outside of the draft.....

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He appears to be completely oblivious that he doesn't have a clue.
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TxAG#2011 said:

He appears to be completely oblivious that he doesn't have a clue.
he is 82......and I am sure in the Jones kingdom no one will tell the emperor he's not wearing any clothes....
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Orlando Ayala Cant Read said:

Not a huge Dak fan but I think he's capable of winning it all if surrounded by strong pieces and a good culture . Hes got neither . At this point though signing ANY big name guy is a waste of money because no single player can overcome that poor culture and terrible ownership.

The only chance this organization has is bringing in a massive presence at head coach that can overcome the organizational culture like Parcells and Jimmy did. Someone ownership literally fears and will not tread over. To me the only 2 people who can possibly be that answer are Belicek or Saban. Even those 2 guys are far from being slam dunks. I really just don't see this team winning a championship while Jerry or NepoBaby Stephen are in charge.

On a side note do we still have people on the boards saying "blaming ownership is beating a dead horse s9 stop " Because there's absolutely nobody else to blame but them.


Yeah, lots of Dak blaming but I will point out two very big points.

I saw on X that the PFF grades for each of the 5 OL, are well below average. So Dak has a below average OL.

Now for the second year in a row, he has the worst or close to the worst WR corp when it comes to separation rate.

So, two things that are critical for a QB to succeed, a quality OL and WRs that get open, are the bottom of the league.
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And a run game that can manage more than 1-3 ypc
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gigem1223 said:

And a run game that can manage more than 1-3 ypc

Absolutely, I was lumping that in with poor OL, but 100%.
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It might be time to upgrade our long-running refrain and start calling for Jerry the Owner to fire….Jerry the Owner.
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It will never matter, and nothing will change...

Even if Jerry makes moves, it'll be his "see, I did something", and he'll still have the final say on everything

Why anyone would want to coach this team under his leadership is beyond me
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Do any of y'all have faith that Stephen would hire a GM?
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Just a perfect example of why the cowboys haven't and won't win anything of note with Jerry at the helm. I'm right, you're wrong, and if you disagree I'm gonna fire you and hire someone who will
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Go to the 12:50 point and listen to Jerry get very small and petty with these guys. This guy is outrageous.

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God will have to fire Jerry the Owner and Jerry the GM. Unfortunately, the successor is likely not to be any better
TxAG#2011
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He kept talking about the good decisions. Wish they had pressed him more on that, other than a few good draft picks what good decisions has the GM made?

The cowboys haven't made the NFC championship in forever.
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His ego killed the golden goose when he got in a pissing match with Jimmy. And now it won't let him see how he has been mediocre at best since the mid 90's.
You do not have a soul. You are a soul that has a body.

We sing Hallelujah! The Lamb has overcome!
 
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