Mother of NBC's Savannah Guthrie Missing

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I thought that I had dreamed this but then I found a screenshot that I'd made. Another interesting theory about the motive. Apologies if this was posted earlier (SIAP).

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If that is the theory, it makes no sense to take her. I don't buy it at all
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If this was the motivation, then yes, I think they must've panicked.

But, I could imagine
1) kids want her to move into assisted living and she resists
2) some realtor wants the house

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This investigation has so many leaks and political showings to tell people where stuff is happening is crazy. You think they would want to conduct investigative matters secretively. This is what happens when you involve political people, federal agencies, and start to perform for the media. Some investigations take months to a year to investigate and get lab work done. The sad thing to think about is if it was your family member and not a famous person would they get the same opportunities as this one?
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BlueMiles said:

I thought that I had dreamed this but then I found a screenshot that I'd made. Another interesting theory about the motive. Apologies if this was posted earlier (SIAP).



Sounds like a new tactic...I've watched a (few?) hundred police interrogation videos on YT - It's evident there's a typical line of questioning they use to get a perp to confess: "We know she's dead, we know you were there - you didnt mean for anything bad to happen...maybe it was an accident. Maybe the victim had a medical episode that lead to her demise...we don't care about your involvement, we just want to know what happened so the family can have closure".

The perp believes them and starts to talk...Then they throw the book at him when he inevitably breaks down under progressive scrutiny & stress and confesses.
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So they're deploying SWAT teams and moving on people based on AI generated matches?

They have no better leads?
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Sounds more like people just making **** up for clicks
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Ag_07 said:

So they're deploying SWAT teams and moving on people based on AI generated matches?

They have no better leads?


That's nuts, I'm surprised they'd even be able to get a search warrant based off that?
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I may have missed it, but who was trying to scare Nancy into selling her house?
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Prosperdick said:

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that supports maga and therefore gets lots of engagement from people who gobble that sort of tripe up.

From a poster who I presume supports the party of men who can get pregnant this is especially rich.
Haha. check my posting history, weirdo.

You know what they say you are when you make assumptions, and you and a few other posters have proven it!

Anyone who perpetuates fake news engagement bait is not so smart.

It happens to the best of us. Instead of owning up to white-knighting for a twitter attention seeking dork, it is easier to deflect with "TDS, TDS, TDS."

I don't mind when people are wrong but can't own up to it. I only hope to draw attention to the absolute truth that there are narcissists on twitter who espouse maga but are only looking for clicks/follows/engagement.

And proof I was right to question that twitter account: She posted hints and indications that a body was found.

Conclusion: she was dead-ass wrong but she doesn't care as long as the fake news is engaged with.

Respectfully, have fun with your crime obsession and the weird mental gymnastics you have to do when someone points out something a that destroys your assumptions.
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ABATTBQ11 said:

Sounds more like people just making **** up for BLUE STARS


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Mega Lops said:

Prosperdick said:

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that supports maga and therefore gets lots of engagement from people who gobble that sort of tripe up.

From a poster who I presume supports the party of men who can get pregnant this is especially rich.

Haha. check my posting history, weirdo.

You know what they say you are when you make assumptions, and you and a few other posters have proven it!

Anyone who perpetuates fake news engagement bait is not so smart.

It happens to the best of us. Instead of owning up to white-knighting for a twitter attention seeking dork, it is easier to deflect with "TDS, TDS, TDS."

I don't mind when people are wrong but can't own up to it. I only hope to draw attention to the absolute truth that there are narcissists on twitter who espouse maga but are only looking for clicks/follows/engagement.

And proof I was right to question that twitter account: She posted hints and indications that a body was found.

Conclusion: she was dead-ass wrong but she doesn't care as long as the fake news is engaged with.

Respectfully, have fun with your crime obsession and the weird mental gymnastics you have to do when someone points out something a that destroys your assumptions.


Seek help, loser.
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I didn't realize so many people watched cop shows
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boulderaggie said:

I may have missed it, but who was trying to scare Nancy into selling her house?


You haven't missed it. The author of the post (that I screenshotted) was suggesting that scaring her was a behavior modification tool to get her to engage in a specific action. With the circus that this has been, who knows.
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one safe place said:

I didn't realize so many people watched cop shows

Seriously?

Criminal Drama/Cop shows rule in most categories

Law & Order SVU 27-seasons
Law & Order - 25 seasons
NCIS - 23 seasons
CSI - 21 seasons
Blue Bloods - 19 seasons
FBI - 18 seasons


Think about that for a moment going back decades

In the 50's 77 Sunset Strip, Highway Patrol, Untouchables, Dragnet
In the 60's Dragnet, Adam 12, FBI, Man Hunt, The Fugitive, Mod Squad
In the 70's Columbo, Rockford FIles, Starsky and Hutch, Beretta, Kojak, Streets of San Francisco, Hawaii Five O.... that list goes on forever
In the 80's Miami Vice ruled the ratings, Columbo, Rockford FIles, Hawaii Five O, In the Heat of the night, TJ Hooker, Wise guy....... that's another endless list
in the 90's Miami Vice, Columbo, Law & Order SVU, Law & Order, Walker Texas Ranger, New York Undercover, NYPD Blue...... many many more

I'm sure you get my point, Criminal Drama, "Cop Shows" etc rule TV ratings to date, it's the most successful genre of TV category in history
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Look I'm not calling out any posters on here, but I have seen A LOT of people quoting and posting X posts and live stream from this guy JLR Investigates. Just take a minute to read this guys take on the guy, and rethink who you follow on social media



Full X Post:

I do my homework. I don't know why other people don't do their's. I would NEVER get involved with Jonathan Lee Riches aka JLR Investigates. He is a fraudster and a hoaxer with a long criminal history and shady, disgusting behavior. He was incarcerated for Federal wire fraud. He's also previously been indicted by a Federal grand jury and he has engaged in numerous incidents of impersonation. He is notorious for parasiting off of major criminal incidents like the University of Idaho students murder case involving Bryan Kohberger. He stalks the crime scenes of famous crimes to grift attention and clicks by pretending to be an investigative reporter.







https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jonathan_Lee_Riches
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Dirty_Mike&the_boys said:

one safe place said:

I didn't realize so many people watched cop shows

Seriously?

Criminal Drama/Cop shows rule in most categories

Law & Order SVU 27-seasons
Law & Order - 25 seasons
NCIS - 23 seasons
CSI - 21 seasons
Blue Bloods - 19 seasons
FBI - 18 seasons


Think about that for a moment going back decades

In the 50's 77 Sunset Strip, Highway Patrol, Untouchables, Dragnet
In the 60's Dragnet, Adam 12, FBI, Man Hunt, The Fugitive, Mod Squad
In the 70's Columbo, Rockford FIles, Starsky and Hutch, Beretta, Kojak, Streets of San Francisco, Hawaii Five O.... that list goes on forever
In the 80's Miami Vice ruled the ratings, Columbo, Rockford FIles, Hawaii Five O, In the Heat of the night, TJ Hooker, Wise guy....... that's another endless list
in the 90's Miami Vice, Columbo, Law & Order SVU, Law & Order, Walker Texas Ranger, New York Undercover, NYPD Blue...... many many more

I'm sure you get my point, Criminal Drama, "Cop Shows" etc rule TV ratings to date, it's the most successful jaundra of TV category in history



jaundra?

or genre?
El Hombre Mas Muerto
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I'm so over this stupid saga. Who cares.
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El Hombre Mas Muerto said:

I'm so over this stupid saga. Who cares.

Thanks for letting us know. Be sure to check back in tomorrow to let us know how much you still don't care.
Dirty_Mike&the_boys
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Ok
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Dirty_Mike&the_boys
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Anyone familiar with this "signal sniffer" thing. Now Bluetooth typically has a maximum range of about 30 feet. They claim they are flying around in helicopters in Tucson trying to detect her pacemaker? Those choppers are at the lowest 100ft off AGL. There's no way they are going to pick up the bluetooth from her pacemaker at that range. What's next a deving rod?

Honestly their best bet is CBP's Belgian Malinois, they are next level K9s and start scouring the desert





I found this one that will mount on a drone, which seems a lot more plausible application, they could fly drones really low.

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El Hombre Mas Muerto said:

I'm so over this stupid saga. Who cares.


Thanks for the heads up. Now we can all update our spreadsheet.
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There are different versions of Bluetooth. Most are used to the basic one with the distance you mentioned, but that's not the case across all the versions. Some can reach up to 250 meters, reliably.
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boulderaggie said:

I may have missed it, but who was trying to scare Nancy into selling her house?



Her kids were trying to scare her to get her to move into a care facility because she couldn't take care of herself and didn't want to move?

Maybe?
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I'm confused about the Range Rover. Was the guy driving it, or did they stumble on it while doing the traffic stop? Was the guy driving the white van? I lost interest after it was all nothing.
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MsDoubleD81 said:

I'm confused about the Range Rover. Was the guy driving it, or did they stumble on it while doing the traffic stop? Was the guy driving the white van? I lost interest after it was all nothing.

He was driving it
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Lathspell said:

There are different versions of Bluetooth. Most are used to the basic one with the distance you mentioned, but that's not the case across all the versions. Some can reach up to 250 meters, reliably.

I can't imagine implanting something in someone with a bad ticker that could possibly give off enough RF to reach 250 meters.


According to the NIH
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The Bluetooth transmitter in most modern pacemakers, which typically uses Bluetooth Low Energy (BLE), is designed for close-range communication, generally operating effectively within a range of 6 to 10 feet (approximately 2 to 3 meters) from the monitor or paired device. While Bluetooth technology can technically operate up to 100 meters (Class 1) or 10 meters (Class 2), medical devices utilize lower-power settings for security and battery longevity.

Key points regarding pacemaker Bluetooth range:
  • Optimal Range: For successful, consistent data transmission between a pacemaker and its home monitor, the recommended distance is often very short, frequently within 10 feet.
  • Safety Distance: To avoid interference, it is generally recommended to keep active Bluetooth devices (like phones or smartwatches) at least 6 inches (15 cm) to 12 inches (30 cm) away from the implanted device.
  • Technology Type: Many modern pacemakers use Bluetooth Low Energy (BLE) to communicate with apps on smartphones or bedside monitors, which is optimized for short-range transmission to save power.
  • Reliability: While Bluetooth 5.0 and later versions can have a range of up to 40 meters (120 feet) indoors, the medical application ensures that the connection is tight and secure, usually failing to connect if the patient is too far from the monitor.


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MsDoubleD81
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So who was in the white van?
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I think this guy has inadvertently identified MFBarnes as JLR!
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Dirty_Mike&the_boys said:

Anyone familiar with this "signal sniffer" thing. Now Bluetooth typically has a maximum range of about 30 feet. They claim they are flying around in helicopters in Tucson trying to detect her pacemaker? Those choppers are at the lowest 100ft off AGL. There's no way they are going to pick up the bluetooth from her pacemaker at that range. What's next a deving rod?

Honestly their best bet is CBP's Belgian Malinois, they are next level K9s and start scouring the desert





I found this one that will mount on a drone, which seems a lot more plausible application, they could fly drones really low.



Probably a highly directional antenna on the helicopter or drone directed towards the ground. And it probably doesn't try to establish a data link, just detect the signal.
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MsDoubleD81 said:

So who was in the white van?

What van? People in the general area of Nancy's neighborhood reported seeing an unmarked van on their street a days before she vanished. Then the media wildfire started looking at every white van in Tucson, and evidently there are A LOT of them. It became the boogie man, of sorts. Just like when they released the ring video of the masked guy, everyone started reviewing their clouds and have now released they have *******s combing their neighborhoods digging in mailboxes and checking cars to see if their locked or have keys in them. X is full of people posting their ring videos they are finding. And evidently up until now these liberal elites paid no attention and had no situational awareness of living an hour from the border in a section of AZ that is crawling with illegals.
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Ok, well maybe it was the initial shot of culvers where they kept showing a live shot of the restaurant. And then the bogus news about the guy in it shooting himself.
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Gloves? I thought only 1 was found 2 miles away?
 
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