Mother of NBC's Savannah Guthrie Missing

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So this entire thing is still an incredible **** show?

And some of it might have to do with Savannah's influence to keep the FBI out of the investigation?

OK. At some point you have to realize that having TDS leads to poor outcomes.

I think Nancy was murdered the-night-of, but preferring ******ed people to investigate it all was not on my bingo card, I guess.

If my mom was missing like this, I would want all the help I could get, and would not call the night-of and attempt to box out any investigator, political alignment be damned.
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BadMoonRisin said:

So this entire thing is still an incredible **** show?

And some of it might have to do with Savannah's influence to keep the FBI out of the investigation?

OK. At some point you have to realize that having TDS leads to poor outcomes.

I think Nancy was murdered the-night-of, but preferring ******ed people to investigate it all was not on my bingo card, I guess.

If my mom was missing like this, I would want all the help I could get, and would not call the night-of and attempt to box out any investigator, political alignment be damned.

shes keeping the FBI out because she hates Trump? Thats a deranged level of TDS if true.
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She would not have any say so in that regard.
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Got a Natty! said:

She would not have any say so in that regard.

I didn't make that claim poster above did. Also, its a local issue they most definitely dont need the FBI if they dont' ask for it.
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HoustonAggie11 said:

BadMoonRisin said:

So this entire thing is still an incredible **** show?

And some of it might have to do with Savannah's influence to keep the FBI out of the investigation?

OK. At some point you have to realize that having TDS leads to poor outcomes.

I think Nancy was murdered the-night-of, but preferring ******ed people to investigate it all was not on my bingo card, I guess.

If my mom was missing like this, I would want all the help I could get, and would not call the night-of and attempt to box out any investigator, political alignment be damned.

shes keeping the FBI out because she hates Trump? Thats a deranged level of TDS if true.

No, that's my speculation. I should delete that post. I dont know what to think anymore and I feel terribly for the Guthrie family, but they certainly didnt do themselves any favors by preferring the Pima County invalids instead of the FBI.
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Trump said he is leaving it to the family and locals, so yes Savannah and family absolutely have a say how much or whether the FBI takes over.

Two things. Yes, the FBI can take over. Trump has deferred to the locals / family.

The locals / family have decided to not let the FBI lead.
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The Guthrie's have any say in who investigates what.

That's not how it works.

And I thought I saw the other day there was talk that they were actually frustrated with how Pima County SD was handling things.

IMO the narrative that they're keeping Feds out is false and based on nothing but rumors.
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The amount of time people have spent on the never ending made up claims, "news" and gossip is incredible.
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If we could get just a little more media coverage of this, I bet it will be solved.
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The idea that the feds and sheriff are at odds is a false narrative and has been overblown.

Whether and to what extent the Guthries have influenced the sheriffs dept seems to be an unknown. But the fact he's a flaming lib with TDS, she represents NBC, and her first call was to an astronaut then it is absolutely feasible politics have played a role in how this has played out.

And it's the Ds again being petty whilst Trump takes the high road.
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Fox has become unwatchable even for me with the nonstop coverage. Starting to think they are making the long bet on the ultimate narrative. Whether it involves a border related issue or it's about a bungled crooked cop investigation they seem to be heavily invested at this point.

Can't speak to other news outlets.
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Don't feel bad. 95% of the posts on this gossip thread should be deleted.
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flown-the-coop
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I nominate the one above mine.

These threads are about breaking events which always is going to include speculation, bad real time information.

As facts develop, the thread cleans itself up. I think it works great.
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flown-the-coop said:

Trump said he is leaving it to the family and locals, so yes Savannah and family absolutely have a say how much or whether the FBI takes over.

Two things. Yes, the FBI can take over. Trump has deferred to the locals / family.

The locals / family have decided to not let the FBI lead.

Which is probably the best thing for him to do.

If Trump would act more like he has when discussing this case (much to my surprise) he'd have a better approval rating, and the Democrats would have less ammo to use against him.
"If you will not fight for right when you can easily win without blood shed; if you will not fight when your victory is sure and not too costly; you may come to the moment when you will have to fight with all the odds against you and only a precarious chance of survival. There may even be a worse case. You may have to fight when there is no hope of victory, because it is better to perish than to live as slaves." - Sir Winston Churchill
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If only we could get this kind of attention for the thousands of missing kids.

I feel for the Guthrie family. I truly do. But the coverage this is getting is having a deleterious effect on my sympathies/interest....I guess that says more about me than anything, but I'm just being honest.
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TheCurl84 said:

If we could get just a little more media coverage of this, I bet it will be solved.


This one made my sweet tea exit me nostril's!!!
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Could not agree more. I like his jabbing, but he can become petty and obsessive.

Wiles may have him walking a finer line between now and the midterms. Threatening him that legacy and lifetime of work can be undone by a disastrous November 2026 may be enough to keep him focused.
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Given his recent unhinged post about Maher, a liberal who has actually been defending him, I'd say Wiles doesn't have any leash on him and he's continuing to damage his (and the GOP) brand.
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AnScAggie said:

This is the strangest disappearance in a while, only to be outdone by the apparent incompetence of the Pima Co. Sheriff's Office. I think there's only three possibilities:
1. Daughter and SIL argument gone wrong or money issues or something related
2. Targeted home invasion and she either recognized the perp or had a medical event that led to her death
3. Rando burglary gone wrong

My money is on # 1 because I just don't see why 2 or 3 would take the body with them. It would have been simpler to set the house on fire to destroy evidence than carry a body and hide it somewhere else.


If it was some random burglary, maybe they thought they could take her to an ATM or bank to get more money, and she died quick after getting her in the car due to the bleeding?

It could have been a true kidnapping, and they planned to hold her hostage for ransom, but she died of the injuries. Or maybe they just got cold feet because of all the media exposure/ FBI, etc and just decided to kill and dump her.

Maybe they thought they could get her across the border alive, but she died from the injuries.

It would have to be a really dumb or chicken$h!t amateur if they kept her body in the back of a vehicle like some of the videos in social media are implying. Theres like a million places they could have went in the desert to get rid of it.
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TheCurl84 said:

If we could get just a little more media coverage of this, I bet it will be solved.



I'm dead. You killed me.
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Sure. Bill pissed him off.

If Savannah wants to come out and spout some TDS about him, I am sure he would oblige her with a rant.
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AnScAggie said:

This is the strangest disappearance in a while, only to be outdone by the apparent incompetence of the Pima Co. Sheriff's Office. I think there's only three possibilities:
1. Daughter and SIL argument gone wrong or money issues or something related
2. Targeted home invasion and she either recognized the perp or had a medical event that led to her death
3. Rando burglary gone wrong

My money is on # 1 because I just don't see why 2 or 3 would take the body with them. It would have been simpler to set the house on fire to destroy evidence than carry a body and hide it somewhere else.

Not to mention having her DNA in the car. I suppose they could have stolen a car to transport her body. I think they took her with plans for ransom but she died early on in the process.
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Rapier108 said:

flown-the-coop said:

Trump said he is leaving it to the family and locals, so yes Savannah and family absolutely have a say how much or whether the FBI takes over.

Two things. Yes, the FBI can take over. Trump has deferred to the locals / family.

The locals / family have decided to not let the FBI lead.

Which is probably the best thing for him to do.

If Trump would act more like he has when discussing this case (much to my surprise) he'd have a better approval rating, and the Democrats would have less ammo to use against him.

The democrats have all the ammo they have or need solely because he is Trump. Nothing he can do or say will change that.
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Page 41… holy sheet.
MsDoubleD81
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I think mods need to clean this thread up.
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All the know nothings trying to defend Nanos and all the bungling that was done before the FBI was ever involved take note, the person detained in the traffic stop last night outside Culver's, which we were made to believe to be involved driving the grey Range Rover, was a person of interest, and we had all this drama with the yellow paper sheets, to block the viewers from anll the horror contained in the back of that SUV



Well the poor guy they handcuffed and did all that, and towed his vehicle too, was was "cooperative" and released not long ago.

And the other two people at the residence that was "detained" which is standard procedure in this joke of an investigation, weren't "drug out of the house as reported in multiple networks, a local station even reported one shot themself in the head, that's all been deleted, those two people walked out of the house, voluntarily allowed investigators serving a search warrant the freedom to conduct their search. The people were detained, but no one was arrested and more importantly…no sign of Nancy was found. They are no longer detained and the goat roping continues.

Everyday moving forward there will be a lot of police activity throughout the Tucson, and the caravan of media and online sleuths will have everything on the chip with drama and next level of activity, rolling multiple Lenco Bearcat SWAT trucks and a caravan of forensic support vehicles, sometimes even the Bomb Squad disposal team in their own Lenco Bearcat, depending on what lead they chase and how it develops. This entire circle jerk is turning almost comedic, other than the fact the 84 year olds body is or had nearly almost certainly decomposed somewhere in the Arizona desert.

These leads start in the Prima County Sheriff's command post and move to the field as needed. That is one reason you're seeing activity build up as the day goes on that can ultimately lead to a search warrant looking for Nancy and any suspect involved. And the majority of the audience were all spoiled growing up watch CSI and the DIck Wolf Law and Order and FBI dramas, where they solve all the crimes like magic with state of the art Forensics, and that magical computer CODIS.

Rest in Peace Nancy
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Tceh playing Arizona in basketball this evening. No Nancy Guthrie sightings (yet).
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How bout Nanos?
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I was away for the day. I log on and see 128 posts on this thread. I scroll through and..... nothing happened?
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Bring in the A-Team:
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MsDoubleD81 said:

How bout Nanos?


Haven't seen anyone in the Arizona student section wearing a clown suit, so I'm going with no.
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I think someone's trolling on this thread is probably better served over on the General board. That's where I would expect to find multiple driveby posts lamenting how lame posters are…
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The Collective said:

Page 41… holy sheet.


30 of them are people complaining about the media coverage but still taking the time to find this thread and come post about it.
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Funny how that Moscow Idaho, population 25,000+, has a police department that runs circles around this clown show.

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