Rapier108 said:

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Wes97 said:

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I assume you are voting for DeSantis? You realize the policy differences between those 2 are pretty darn small, right?

Are maybe you are full blown neocon voting for Haley. In which case… oh Nevermind

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Of course, you had to toss in ad hominem instead of just asking a question. What is it with you MAGA types being incapable of any level of decorum? Oh yeah, I forgot for a second who you follow.

And DeSantis is far more conservative than Trump. He is what MAGA thinks Trump is.

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dmart90 said:

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Trump won in '16 for one reason and one reason only. He was running against Hilldawg - the MOST decisive candidate ever. Biden barely has a pulse and will still win head to head with Trump. Again.

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Old_Ag_91 said:

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I dont see desantis or any other republican winning against biden(dems will cheat against whoever it is regardless of the name to win). Trump has a slim chance because of major republican turnout (including votes from independent/democratic blacks and hispanics). Desantis might as well be a guaranteed loss.

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Dan Scott said:

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They need to change the way Iowa does Caucuses. The official vote shouldn't be released until all voting is completed in the state.

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JobSecurity said:

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So weird. I don't know anyone who actually wants to vote for trump. Or biden for that matter

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Old_Ag_91 said:

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I dont see desantis or any other republican winning against biden(dems will cheat against whoever it is regardless of the name to win). Trump has a slim chance because of major republican turnout (including votes from independent/democratic blacks and hispanics). Desantis might as well be a guaranteed loss.

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Rockdoc said:

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JobSecurity said:

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So weird. I don't know anyone who actually wants to vote for trump. Or biden for that matter

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What a situation we find ourselves in. The media seems to be in control.

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J. Walter Weatherman said:

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RGLAG85 said:

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J. Walter Weatherman said:

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cevans_40 said:

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J. Walter Weatherman said:

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AggieVictor10 said:

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FireAg said:

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Rockdoc said:

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Ag with kids said:

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Rockdoc said:

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Ag with kids said:

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Rockdoc said:

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BigRobSA said:

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when should we start hearing official results?

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Varies by precinct, but mine was always about 60-90mis in before counts started appearing.

Have to listen to each candidates speaker speak. And then, laugh at Trumps for like 10 minutes

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Well maybe you'll get to laugh at Biden for 4 more years!

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Only if we nominate Trump again.

Tried it once, got bad result. Let's try it again...yep, same bad result.

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Well I'm voting for Desantis if I get the chance. What do you suggest to defeat Trump. I'll listen.

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I didn't make a comment about defeating him.

I only commented that nominating him was a loser for the general.

But, the way to beat Trump is to get close in the first several caucuses (or is it cauci?) and primaries. This would show that the polls were WAY off.

His inevitability is his main selling point right now to everyone that isn't diehard MAGA. If that bubble gets popped, he'll be in a HUGE fight going forward. And he WILL have to debate and really campaign, not what he's been doing.

Tonight we'll see if that can happen.

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I hope it happens but I have my worries. I hope I'm wrong.

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Just don't think it's going to happen…33+ polling lead is insurmountable…

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I think ron can do it but if he can't, it'll be interesting to watch trump unite the party behind him. Maybe ron could be a VP pick.

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I hope Ron can get the nod. I just don't see it happening and what scares me even more is the stubbornness of the Never Trumpers who will cut off their noses just to show how smart they are.

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Or, maybe we shouldn't nominate someone that's hated by ~20% of the party? In case you missed it you need their votes in the general.

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Or maybe 20% of the party should unwad their panties and actually join a party.

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Insulting is a great way to win people over. Operating out of the Kari Lake playbook I guess. As a reminder Maga doesn't make up nearly enough votes to win the general.

You say this.....


Unless all you care about is just getting to vote for Dear Leader one more time, which seems likely at this point.

Then you come with this... leftist playbook...

Self awareness isn't your strong suit.

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LOL!

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I'm not worried about converting Trump cultists, they will never leave him and are happy to vote for him in the primary just to guarantee another loss to Biden. Thankfully they will finally be gone after he loses again and actual conservatives can rebuild the party.

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J. Walter Weatherman said:

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Dan Scott said:

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They need to change the way Iowa does Caucuses. The official vote shouldn't be released until all voting is completed in the state.

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Agreed, seems pretty insane to release anything when people are still voting.

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Rapier108 said:

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Old_Ag_91 said:

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Apparently some think that if desantis was to win the nomination he would magically be strong enough to beat biden. If trump cant win against biden(i personally believe 2020 was illegitimate), desantis doesn't have a prayer. How can you believe the vote would mobilize for desantis if trump couldnt beat biden? It makes no sense.

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And why do you think the vote will mobilize for Trump?

Yes, he'll get his base, but that is at most 25% of the electorate. He has no path to win another 25%, especially in the states that will decide the election.

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oysterbayAG said:

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The economy, the border, the wars and Joe Biden's weakness and poor health will hopefully drive people to vote for Trump. Not as overwhelming as in 1980 for Reagan, but enough to win !

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RGLAG85 said:

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J. Walter Weatherman said:

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RGLAG85 said:

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J. Walter Weatherman said:

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cevans_40 said:

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J. Walter Weatherman said:

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AggieVictor10 said:

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FireAg said:

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Rockdoc said:

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Ag with kids said:

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Rockdoc said:

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Ag with kids said:

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Rockdoc said:

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BigRobSA said:

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PA24 said:

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when should we start hearing official results?

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Varies by precinct, but mine was always about 60-90mis in before counts started appearing.

Have to listen to each candidates speaker speak. And then, laugh at Trumps for like 10 minutes

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Well maybe you'll get to laugh at Biden for 4 more years!

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Only if we nominate Trump again.

Tried it once, got bad result. Let's try it again...yep, same bad result.

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Well I'm voting for Desantis if I get the chance. What do you suggest to defeat Trump. I'll listen.

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I didn't make a comment about defeating him.

I only commented that nominating him was a loser for the general.

But, the way to beat Trump is to get close in the first several caucuses (or is it cauci?) and primaries. This would show that the polls were WAY off.

His inevitability is his main selling point right now to everyone that isn't diehard MAGA. If that bubble gets popped, he'll be in a HUGE fight going forward. And he WILL have to debate and really campaign, not what he's been doing.

Tonight we'll see if that can happen.

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I hope it happens but I have my worries. I hope I'm wrong.

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Just don't think it's going to happen…33+ polling lead is insurmountable…

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I think ron can do it but if he can't, it'll be interesting to watch trump unite the party behind him. Maybe ron could be a VP pick.

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I hope Ron can get the nod. I just don't see it happening and what scares me even more is the stubbornness of the Never Trumpers who will cut off their noses just to show how smart they are.

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Or, maybe we shouldn't nominate someone that's hated by ~20% of the party? In case you missed it you need their votes in the general.

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Or maybe 20% of the party should unwad their panties and actually join a party.

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Insulting is a great way to win people over. Operating out of the Kari Lake playbook I guess. As a reminder Maga doesn't make up nearly enough votes to win the general.

You say this.....


Unless all you care about is just getting to vote for Dear Leader one more time, which seems likely at this point.

Then you come with this... leftist playbook...

Self awareness isn't your strong suit.

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LOL!

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I'm not worried about converting Trump cultists, they will never leave him and are happy to vote for him in the primary just to guarantee another loss to Biden. Thankfully they will finally be gone after he loses again and actual conservatives can rebuild the party.

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"Trump cultists" leftist saying, are truly few and far between, very, very few. It's the tweeners you and the DeSantis, circle jerking, fan boys are turning off to a great candidate with your constant, leftist, barrage of insults. Y'all are completely clueless and are already hedging and building a wall around your ignorance.

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Waffledynamics said:

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Wes97 said:

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Rapier108 said:

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Wes97 said:

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I assume you are voting for DeSantis? You realize the policy differences between those 2 are pretty darn small, right?

Are maybe you are full blown neocon voting for Haley. In which case… oh Nevermind

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Of course, you had to toss in ad hominem instead of just asking a question. What is it with you MAGA types being incapable of any level of decorum? Oh yeah, I forgot for a second who you follow.

And DeSantis is far more conservative than Trump. He is what MAGA thinks Trump is.

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Oh cry me a river. You need to put on your big boy pants if you are going to be involved in politics.

I like DeSantis. I would have been perfectly happy for him to win. But his campaign has been run pretty incompetently.

And a very large % of his online supporters are complexly insufferable. So I enjoy watching them look silly.

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Imagine looking at nauseating Trump voters and saying the DeSantis ones are insufferable. You people just suffer from massive cognitive dissonance and find it unpleasant.

DeSantis is a better candidate, executive, and man that Trump ever was or ever will be, and we are a deeply unserious country.

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Waffledynamics said:

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Wes97 said:

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Rapier108 said:

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Wes97 said:

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I assume you are voting for DeSantis? You realize the policy differences between those 2 are pretty darn small, right?

Are maybe you are full blown neocon voting for Haley. In which case… oh Nevermind

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Of course, you had to toss in ad hominem instead of just asking a question. What is it with you MAGA types being incapable of any level of decorum? Oh yeah, I forgot for a second who you follow.

And DeSantis is far more conservative than Trump. He is what MAGA thinks Trump is.

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Oh cry me a river. You need to put on your big boy pants if you are going to be involved in politics.

I like DeSantis. I would have been perfectly happy for him to win. But his campaign has been run pretty incompetently.

And a very large % of his online supporters are complexly insufferable. So I enjoy watching them look silly.

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Imagine looking at nauseating Trump voters and saying the DeSantis ones are insufferable. You people just suffer from massive cognitive dissonance and find it unpleasant.

DeSantis is a better candidate, executive, and man that Trump ever was or ever will be, and we are a deeply unserious country.

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Agthatbuilds said:

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Ain't happening. None of those issues will matter when it's simply Trump on the ballot.

Can't wait for the debate. Or right, neither biden nor Trump have any balls.

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RGLAG85 said:

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J. Walter Weatherman said:

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RGLAG85 said:

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J. Walter Weatherman said:

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cevans_40 said:

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J. Walter Weatherman said:

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cevans_40 said:

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AggieVictor10 said:

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FireAg said:

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Rockdoc said:

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Ag with kids said:

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Rockdoc said:

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Ag with kids said:

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Rockdoc said:

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BigRobSA said:

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PA24 said:

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when should we start hearing official results?

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Varies by precinct, but mine was always about 60-90mis in before counts started appearing.

Have to listen to each candidates speaker speak. And then, laugh at Trumps for like 10 minutes

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Well maybe you'll get to laugh at Biden for 4 more years!

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Only if we nominate Trump again.

Tried it once, got bad result. Let's try it again...yep, same bad result.

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Well I'm voting for Desantis if I get the chance. What do you suggest to defeat Trump. I'll listen.

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I didn't make a comment about defeating him.

I only commented that nominating him was a loser for the general.

But, the way to beat Trump is to get close in the first several caucuses (or is it cauci?) and primaries. This would show that the polls were WAY off.

His inevitability is his main selling point right now to everyone that isn't diehard MAGA. If that bubble gets popped, he'll be in a HUGE fight going forward. And he WILL have to debate and really campaign, not what he's been doing.

Tonight we'll see if that can happen.

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I hope it happens but I have my worries. I hope I'm wrong.

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Just don't think it's going to happen…33+ polling lead is insurmountable…

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I think ron can do it but if he can't, it'll be interesting to watch trump unite the party behind him. Maybe ron could be a VP pick.

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I hope Ron can get the nod. I just don't see it happening and what scares me even more is the stubbornness of the Never Trumpers who will cut off their noses just to show how smart they are.

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Or, maybe we shouldn't nominate someone that's hated by ~20% of the party? In case you missed it you need their votes in the general.

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Or maybe 20% of the party should unwad their panties and actually join a party.

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Insulting is a great way to win people over. Operating out of the Kari Lake playbook I guess. As a reminder Maga doesn't make up nearly enough votes to win the general.

You say this.....


Unless all you care about is just getting to vote for Dear Leader one more time, which seems likely at this point.

Then you come with this... leftist playbook...

Self awareness isn't your strong suit.

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LOL!

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I'm not worried about converting Trump cultists, they will never leave him and are happy to vote for him in the primary just to guarantee another loss to Biden. Thankfully they will finally be gone after he loses again and actual conservatives can rebuild the party.

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"Trump cultists" leftist saying, are truly few and far between, very, very few. It's the tweeners you and the DeSantis, circle jerking, fan boys are turning off to a great candidate with your constant, leftist, barrage of insults. Y'all are completely clueless and are already hedging and building a wall around your ignorance.

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Ag with kids said:

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J. Walter Weatherman said:

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Old_Ag_91 said:

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I guess they thinks independents/dems/libs will magically vote for desantis.

Its laughable but whatever.

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They did in 2022, when he won Miami of all places and performed much better than Trump did in 2020. Trump turned Georgia and Arizona blue.

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Trump turns red areas blue.

DeSantis turns blue areas red.

MAGA: I WANT TRUMP!!!! PROVEN WARRIOR!

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FireAg said:

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Waffledynamics said:

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Wes97 said:

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Rapier108 said:

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Wes97 said:

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I assume you are voting for DeSantis? You realize the policy differences between those 2 are pretty darn small, right?

Are maybe you are full blown neocon voting for Haley. In which case… oh Nevermind

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Of course, you had to toss in ad hominem instead of just asking a question. What is it with you MAGA types being incapable of any level of decorum? Oh yeah, I forgot for a second who you follow.

And DeSantis is far more conservative than Trump. He is what MAGA thinks Trump is.

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Oh cry me a river. You need to put on your big boy pants if you are going to be involved in politics.

I like DeSantis. I would have been perfectly happy for him to win. But his campaign has been run pretty incompetently.

And a very large % of his online supporters are complexly insufferable. So I enjoy watching them look silly.

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Imagine looking at nauseating Trump voters and saying the DeSantis ones are insufferable. You people just suffer from massive cognitive dissonance and find it unpleasant.

DeSantis is a better candidate, executive, and man that Trump ever was or ever will be, and we are a deeply unserious country.

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And as much as that might be true, he didn't connect with enough voters to have them see things his way and give him their vote…

He chose the wrong things to campaign on, and he did not connect with the electorate very well…

Folks may not like that explanation, but that's what happened…

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Waffledynamics said:

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AggieVictor10 said:

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Rapier108 said:

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Old_Ag_91 said:

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Apparently some think that if desantis was to win the nomination he would magically be strong enough to beat biden. If trump cant win against biden(i personally believe 2020 was illegitimate), desantis doesn't have a prayer. How can you believe the vote would mobilize for desantis if trump couldnt beat biden? It makes no sense.

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And why do you think the vote will mobilize for Trump?

Yes, he'll get his base, but that is at most 25% of the electorate. He has no path to win another 25%, especially in the states that will decide the election.

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Seems like getting desantis supporters in his corner would help him

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I'm less and less inclined to vote for Trump the more he and his supporters act like children.

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Quote:

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He chose the wrong things to campaign on, and he did not connect with the electorate very well…

Folks may not like that explanation, but that's what happened…

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FireAg said:

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Waffledynamics said:

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AggieVictor10 said:

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Rapier108 said:

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Old_Ag_91 said:

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Apparently some think that if desantis was to win the nomination he would magically be strong enough to beat biden. If trump cant win against biden(i personally believe 2020 was illegitimate), desantis doesn't have a prayer. How can you believe the vote would mobilize for desantis if trump couldnt beat biden? It makes no sense.

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And why do you think the vote will mobilize for Trump?

Yes, he'll get his base, but that is at most 25% of the electorate. He has no path to win another 25%, especially in the states that will decide the election.

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Seems like getting desantis supporters in his corner would help him

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I'm less and less inclined to vote for Trump the more he and his supporters act like children.

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Apparently "Trumpers", "Trumpeters", "MAGA" aren't the 20% minority so many have claimed them to be…

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Wes97 said:

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The poor texags Cruz/DeSantis board once again shows that it completely has its finger on the pulse of the average conservative voter.

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taterchip said:

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Agthatbuilds said:

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Ain't happening. None of those issues will matter when it's simply Trump on the ballot.

Can't wait for the debate. Or right, neither biden nor Trump have any balls.

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Trump with "no balls"?

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Waffledynamics said:

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FireAg said:

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Waffledynamics said:

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Wes97 said:

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Rapier108 said:

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Wes97 said:

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I assume you are voting for DeSantis? You realize the policy differences between those 2 are pretty darn small, right?

Are maybe you are full blown neocon voting for Haley. In which case… oh Nevermind

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Of course, you had to toss in ad hominem instead of just asking a question. What is it with you MAGA types being incapable of any level of decorum? Oh yeah, I forgot for a second who you follow.

And DeSantis is far more conservative than Trump. He is what MAGA thinks Trump is.

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Oh cry me a river. You need to put on your big boy pants if you are going to be involved in politics.

I like DeSantis. I would have been perfectly happy for him to win. But his campaign has been run pretty incompetently.

And a very large % of his online supporters are complexly insufferable. So I enjoy watching them look silly.

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Imagine looking at nauseating Trump voters and saying the DeSantis ones are insufferable. You people just suffer from massive cognitive dissonance and find it unpleasant.

DeSantis is a better candidate, executive, and man that Trump ever was or ever will be, and we are a deeply unserious country.

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And as much as that might be true, he didn't connect with enough voters to have them see things his way and give him their vote…

He chose the wrong things to campaign on, and he did not connect with the electorate very well…

Folks may not like that explanation, but that's what happened…

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No, what happened was the heaviest media campaign along with a heavy Trump campaign and a ******ed electorate.

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JWinTX said:

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oysterbayAG said:

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The economy, the border, the wars and Joe Biden's weakness and poor health will hopefully drive people to vote for Trump. Not as overwhelming as in 1980 for Reagan, but enough to win !

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Please explain how you think Trump is going to do any different this time when we all know the Dems playbook of ballot harvesting, mail-in balloting, precinct delays at GOP precincts, and adding abortion and recreational drug legalizing on the ballots? Since 2020, every major election has gone the Dems way in all but red states. And abortion lovers are drowning out pro-lifers at the ballot box so they can continue killing their babies.

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aggiehawg said:

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Quote:

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He chose the wrong things to campaign on, and he did not connect with the electorate very well…

Folks may not like that explanation, but that's what happened…

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Disagree. DeSantis had the issues, he just didn't have the right year and started too late to make it his year.

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FireAg said:

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Waffledynamics said:

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AggieVictor10 said:

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Rapier108 said:

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Old_Ag_91 said:

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Apparently some think that if desantis was to win the nomination he would magically be strong enough to beat biden. If trump cant win against biden(i personally believe 2020 was illegitimate), desantis doesn't have a prayer. How can you believe the vote would mobilize for desantis if trump couldnt beat biden? It makes no sense.

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And why do you think the vote will mobilize for Trump?

Yes, he'll get his base, but that is at most 25% of the electorate. He has no path to win another 25%, especially in the states that will decide the election.

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Seems like getting desantis supporters in his corner would help him

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I'm less and less inclined to vote for Trump the more he and his supporters act like children.

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Apparently "Trumpers", "Trumpeters", "MAGA" aren't the 20% minority so many have claimed them to be…

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