I really enjoyed both episodes.
The first two Obi Wan Kenobi >>>>> The first two Book of Boba Fett
The first two Obi Wan Kenobi >>>>> The first two Book of Boba Fett
*** OBI-WAN KENOBI *** (Disney+ Series)
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PatAg said:I don't know that this sentiment makes sense.Brian Earl Spilner said:JDUB08AG said:
Not going to lie, I really didn't love it. Something just felt off and I can't explain it. I get how they tied it directly to episodes 1-3 as a stage setter, but I don't look too fondly on that trilogy. Linking it so closely just lumps this in and makes me realize how poorly it was executed. Maybe that's not fair to this, but I can't escape it.
If you didn't like the prequels you will not like this series.
Saved you 5 weeks.
It makes perfect sense. It was clearly made for people who loved the prequels and it will tie in to them very closely.
He didn't like them and doesn't want them to tie in.
Seems pretty straightforward?
Really like the Ben / Owen exchanges. Very interesting dynamic. Hope to see more of that.
I'm landing somewhere in B- or C+ territory at the moment. I think just the brightness of the lighting or how clean everyone looks makes it look so different than EP4. Good grief Lucas nailed his craft.
I'm landing somewhere in B- or C+ territory at the moment. I think just the brightness of the lighting or how clean everyone looks makes it look so different than EP4. Good grief Lucas nailed his craft.
i think it was made for people that love Obi-Wan, and I think most people who dislike the prequels had an issue with how it was written and directed.Brian Earl Spilner said:PatAg said:I don't know that this sentiment makes sense.Brian Earl Spilner said:JDUB08AG said:
Not going to lie, I really didn't love it. Something just felt off and I can't explain it. I get how they tied it directly to episodes 1-3 as a stage setter, but I don't look too fondly on that trilogy. Linking it so closely just lumps this in and makes me realize how poorly it was executed. Maybe that's not fair to this, but I can't escape it.
If you didn't like the prequels you will not like this series.
Saved you 5 weeks.
It makes perfect sense. It was clearly made for people who loved the prequels and it will tie in to them very closely.
He didn't like them and doesn't want them to tie in.
Seems pretty straightforward?
Unless Lucas is writing and directing this, I don't see why it would make you dislike this series.
Now I guess you may be saying people like this person are predisposed to dislike it, which definitely tracks.
I just don't think a blanket statement of "if you disliked the sequels you will dislike this" makes sense.
Yea, i was not expect that much hostility in that exchange, but it immediately made sense. They conveyed a lot of context in a few sentences and body language.wcb said:
Really like the Ben / Owen exchanges. Very interesting dynamic. Hope to see more of that.
I'm landing somewhere in B- or C+ territory at the moment. I think just the brightness of the lighting or how clean everyone looks makes it look so different than EP4. Good grief Lucas nailed his craft.
Agree to disagree I suppose.
But side point, massive difference between writing, and dialogue. I think most people's issues were specifically with the dialogue, not the story.
But side point, massive difference between writing, and dialogue. I think most people's issues were specifically with the dialogue, not the story.
Brian Earl Spilner said:PatAg said:I don't know that this sentiment makes sense.Brian Earl Spilner said:JDUB08AG said:
Not going to lie, I really didn't love it. Something just felt off and I can't explain it. I get how they tied it directly to episodes 1-3 as a stage setter, but I don't look too fondly on that trilogy. Linking it so closely just lumps this in and makes me realize how poorly it was executed. Maybe that's not fair to this, but I can't escape it.
If you didn't like the prequels you will not like this series.
Saved you 5 weeks.
It makes perfect sense. It was clearly made for people who loved the prequels and it will tie in to them very closely.
He didn't like them and doesn't want them to tie in.
Seems pretty straightforward?
I'd argue that most people didn't like the prequels. Maybe I'm wrong on that, I have no idea. Even though I fully understood that it tied directly to the prequels, I was hoping for a different feel to it. It's not as straightforward as you made it.
PatAg said:Yea, i was not expect that much hostility in that exchange, but it immediately made sense. They conveyed a lot of context in a few sentences and body language.wcb said:
Really like the Ben / Owen exchanges. Very interesting dynamic. Hope to see more of that.
I'm landing somewhere in B- or C+ territory at the moment. I think just the brightness of the lighting or how clean everyone looks makes it look so different than EP4. Good grief Lucas nailed his craft.
Pretty obvious why Owen hates Ben. Dude got an anchor baby and it's not even his
Bunch of 40 year olds forgetting that they saw the original series when they were 7 years old and are over analyzing these shows and judging them with less generosity than they do those films. If they saw Star Wars with fresh eyes today they'd hit it with just as much criticism.cbr said:
Im surprised at the negative vibes, man
I enjoyed it. It wasnt a huge WOW, but a very solid sw show. So far so goood.
Leia is just what she figured to be. Take the good with the bad.
By far the weakest is the sister. The i quisitors are kind of weak too. But they came from a pretty weak cartoon
Brian Earl Spilner said:JDUB08AG said:
Not going to lie, I really didn't love it. Something just felt off and I can't explain it. I get how they tied it directly to episodes 1-3 as a stage setter, but I don't look too fondly on that trilogy. Linking it so closely just lumps this in and makes me realize how poorly it was executed. Maybe that's not fair to this, but I can't escape it.
If you didn't like the prequels you will not like this series.
Saved you 5 weeks.
Regarding the Ben/Owen sceneI really wish the trailer hadn't spoiled the "like you trained his father" line. From a performance standpoint, that exhange has been the highlight.
Another great acting piece by Ewan was when he was talking to the Organas on the holo-com, and the line was something like "I'm not the man I was 10 years ago" and Ewan's face perfectly captured the man with a shattered spirit. Gut wrenching.
Another great acting piece by Ewan was when he was talking to the Organas on the holo-com, and the line was something like "I'm not the man I was 10 years ago" and Ewan's face perfectly captured the man with a shattered spirit. Gut wrenching.
Oh yea, and Im sure a lot of it depends on your age when it released.Brian Earl Spilner said:
Agree to disagree I suppose.
But side point, massive difference between writing, and dialogue. I think most people's issues were specifically with the dialogue, not the story.
Either way, Ewan is just such a great actor its great to see him in the role again.
This is gross.
Exhibit A
Just watched episode 1 and aside from it being cool to see some of the old cast back was pretty badly made. The scene of the bad guys chasing down the little girl was legit almost Power Rangers level corny stunt work and directing. Hoping this gets better because the story obviously has potential.
That's how you troll a thread
Finally just watched both episodes. Loved it.
They did a good job hiding what this was really going to be about. Luke is, at least at this point, not relevant to the show.
Something I thought about is how this show is setting up to tie into Episode IV when Leia calls Obi Wan for help (you're my only hope)
Well as viewers of episode 4, we never really get why Leia sent that to Obi Wan, other than the vague connection he realizes with Luke.
Seems like to me, 2 episodes in, this will explain that. Leia was saved by a mysterious "Obi wan Kenobi" she learns her father was able to get to come help her the first time.
At the start of Episode IV, Leia reaches the ultimate desperation move to seek out the Obi Wan Kenobi that saved her in her childhood; who she only vaguely remembers but her parents always spoke highly of.
I'm stoned. Sorry for the stream of consciousness.
They did a good job hiding what this was really going to be about. Luke is, at least at this point, not relevant to the show.
Something I thought about is how this show is setting up to tie into Episode IV when Leia calls Obi Wan for help (you're my only hope)
Well as viewers of episode 4, we never really get why Leia sent that to Obi Wan, other than the vague connection he realizes with Luke.
Seems like to me, 2 episodes in, this will explain that. Leia was saved by a mysterious "Obi wan Kenobi" she learns her father was able to get to come help her the first time.
At the start of Episode IV, Leia reaches the ultimate desperation move to seek out the Obi Wan Kenobi that saved her in her childhood; who she only vaguely remembers but her parents always spoke highly of.
I'm stoned. Sorry for the stream of consciousness.
CNN is an enemy of the state and should be treated as such.
Garrelli 5000 said:
Compared to the other Disney SW series. This is horrible. Is it Intentional? Tribute to Lucas?
I don't know what it the most awful - the acting, screenplay, or directing v
Phantom menace is smiling. Post Jedi Lucas was blasted for how bad it was but the history made it endure. If this is purposely a throwback to the "good old days" pretending phantom menace was worth repeating…episodes one and most of two were justifiably panned at the time. You're fooling yourselves if you suddenly think they needed to be repeated.
This is dog *****
Wow. So much to unpack here. From the anger out of nowhere to the freezing cold take.
Your opinion is bad; and you should feel bad.
CNN is an enemy of the state and should be treated as such.
Agree this was great. I am 48. I can attest to how true this is. Things break down in this stage of life. And it does shatter your spirit.Vince Blake said:
Regarding the Ben/Owen sceneI really wish the trailer hadn't spoiled the "like you trained his father" line. From a performance standpoint, that exhange has been the highlight.
Another great acting piece by Ewan was when he was talking to the Organas on the holo-com, and the line was something like "I'm not the man I was 10 years ago" and Ewan's face perfectly captured the man with a shattered spirit. Gut wrenching.
Just for fun, every time I hear the name Flea this scene IMMEDIATELY pops into my head
BenFiasco14 said:
Finally just watched both episodes. Loved it.
Something I thought about is how this show is setting up to tie into Episode IV when Leia calls Obi Wan for help (you're my only hope)
Well as viewers of episode 4, we never really get why Leia sent that to Obi Wan, other than the vague connection he realizes with Luke.
Seems like to me, 2 episodes in, this will explain that. Leia was saved by a mysterious "Obi wan Kenobi" she learns her father was able to get to come help her the first time.
At the start of Episode IV, Leia reaches the ultimate desperation move to seek out the Obi Wan Kenobi that saved her in her childhood; who she only vaguely remembers but her parents always spoke highly of.
I'm stoned. Sorry for the stream of consciousness.
By the same token, now we have 2 instances where the Empire captured Leia and it brought out Obi-wan. The question is going to be why didn't they exploit that link more between the end of this series and episode 4?
I like the story as well but quality is a mixed bag.
I still can't get over how bad the chase scenes are. How in the world does everyone approve that because you know all eyes were on this series more than any other?
Obi Wan literally standing adjacent to her yelling at her to stop and she runs off and then he walks off after her. Extend your arm 6 inches and put your hand on her shoulder!!!
Lol. Most ridiculous two cuts of Star Wars in any SW show or movie made to date. Granted, I stopped watching Boba Fett so maybe it had equally bad scenes.
I still can't get over how bad the chase scenes are. How in the world does everyone approve that because you know all eyes were on this series more than any other?
Obi Wan literally standing adjacent to her yelling at her to stop and she runs off and then he walks off after her. Extend your arm 6 inches and put your hand on her shoulder!!!
Lol. Most ridiculous two cuts of Star Wars in any SW show or movie made to date. Granted, I stopped watching Boba Fett so maybe it had equally bad scenes.
How far did you get in BoBF?
I thought the girl inquisitor was bad. Acting, writing, direction for her. You have people called inquisitors and a guy called a grand inquisitor who has an insubordinate subordinate and he just chides her?!?!?! The people that killed kids?!?!?
Then they show her see the shooting between and obi wan and the hunters on the roof top and it is literally about 4 rooftops away and we get a montage of her doing parkour for 3 minutes but taking forever to get there.
Then we get the equivalent of Darth Vader's "Nooooooooooooo" as Obi Wan flies away on what appears to be a sublight-speed cargo barge, but she just stands there yelling cheesy lines at the departing ship. Go get on a fast ship and catch him!!
Ugh. I can see people saying Meh and the ones who really dislike it. I just cannot imagine the mental gymnastics some of the fanboys are having to do to defend this as really great.
And yeah the Leia chase scenes were so dumb. At no time before she floated through space in one of the last movies was it ever hinted she had some super running speed power... this was literally a 4 or 5 year old girl outrunning adults.
Then they show her see the shooting between and obi wan and the hunters on the roof top and it is literally about 4 rooftops away and we get a montage of her doing parkour for 3 minutes but taking forever to get there.
Then we get the equivalent of Darth Vader's "Nooooooooooooo" as Obi Wan flies away on what appears to be a sublight-speed cargo barge, but she just stands there yelling cheesy lines at the departing ship. Go get on a fast ship and catch him!!
Ugh. I can see people saying Meh and the ones who really dislike it. I just cannot imagine the mental gymnastics some of the fanboys are having to do to defend this as really great.
And yeah the Leia chase scenes were so dumb. At no time before she floated through space in one of the last movies was it ever hinted she had some super running speed power... this was literally a 4 or 5 year old girl outrunning adults.
jokershady said:
How far did you get in BoBF?
Two.
91_Aggie said:
I thought the girl inquisitor was bad. Acting, writing, direction for her. You have people called inquisitors and a guy called a grand inquisitor who has an insubordinate subordinate and he just chides her?!?!?! The people that killed kids?!?!?
Then they show her see the shooting between and obi wan and the hunters on the roof top and it is literally about 4 rooftops away and we get a montage of her doing parkour for 3 minutes but taking forever to get there.
Then we get the equivalent of Darth Vader's "Nooooooooooooo" as Obi Wan flies away on what appears to be a sublight-speed cargo barge, but she just stands there yelling cheesy lines at the departing ship. Go get on a fast ship and catch him!!
Ugh. I can see people saying Meh and the ones who really dislike it. I just cannot imagine the mental gymnastics some of the fanboys are having to do to defend this as really great.
And yeah the Leia chase scenes were so dumb. At no time before she floated through space in one of the last movies was it ever hinted she had some super running speed power... this was literally a 4 or 5 year old girl outrunning adults.
She's supposedly 10 in this show but looks like a 3 yr old running. Look at her running in episode one. It's why I said she may have a disability or she's just highly behind her age on the developmental scale.
um……help me out chief….YouBet said:jokershady said:
How far did you get in BoBF?
Two.
Watched first two episodes only.
I'm so glad I wasn't alone in noticing all of that. Figured I was gonna get ratiod by fanboys.
Another thing I hated that I hate about quite a few shows/movies. When Leia is dissed at that event by her older cousin and she responds with level 10 intelligent sass. I always HATE it when a child character is written to speak with advanced adult dialogue. She would have been like "awww you hurt my feelings. Stop being mean to me." But this show has her like "Ha, quite to the contrary, my dear cousin, it is YOU who has a convoluted perspective on this situation." Writer please.
Another thing I hated that I hate about quite a few shows/movies. When Leia is dissed at that event by her older cousin and she responds with level 10 intelligent sass. I always HATE it when a child character is written to speak with advanced adult dialogue. She would have been like "awww you hurt my feelings. Stop being mean to me." But this show has her like "Ha, quite to the contrary, my dear cousin, it is YOU who has a convoluted perspective on this situation." Writer please.
Teacher_Ag said:
I'm so glad I wasn't alone in noticing all of that. Figured I was gonna get ratiod by fanboys.
Another thing I hated that I hate about quite a few shows/movies. When Leia is dissed at that event by her older cousin and she responds with level 10 intelligent sass. I always HATE it when a child character is written to speak with advanced adult dialogue. She would have been like "awww you hurt my feelings. Stop being mean to me." But this show has her like "Ha, quite to the contrary, my dear cousin, it is YOU who has a convoluted perspective on this situation." Writer please.
I'm expecting them, based on what is happened so far, to reveal Leia is already unknowingly using the force to sense people's emotions, which makes her seem more advanced intellectually. I think she was sensing her cousins and Kenobi's emotions in both of the first two episodes.
It isn't about what she can sense, it's about shows/movies that write dialogue where kids who look 8 speak like college students with an instant, witty, over the top response. It reminds me of the youngest daughter from 7th Heaven who solved all over her families problems. It's just corny writing.
Good call and I agree. Easy way to tie in her force abilities.Definitely Not A Cop said:Teacher_Ag said:
I'm so glad I wasn't alone in noticing all of that. Figured I was gonna get ratiod by fanboys.
Another thing I hated that I hate about quite a few shows/movies. When Leia is dissed at that event by her older cousin and she responds with level 10 intelligent sass. I always HATE it when a child character is written to speak with advanced adult dialogue. She would have been like "awww you hurt my feelings. Stop being mean to me." But this show has her like "Ha, quite to the contrary, my dear cousin, it is YOU who has a convoluted perspective on this situation." Writer please.
I'm expecting them, based on what is happened so far, to reveal Leia is already unknowingly using the force to sense people's emotions, which makes her seem more advanced intellectually. I think she was sensing her cousins and Kenobi's emotions in both of the first two episodes.
ROTJ - "I know. Somehow, I've always known."
YouBet said:91_Aggie said:
I thought the girl inquisitor was bad. Acting, writing, direction for her. You have people called inquisitors and a guy called a grand inquisitor who has an insubordinate subordinate and he just chides her?!?!?! The people that killed kids?!?!?
Then they show her see the shooting between and obi wan and the hunters on the roof top and it is literally about 4 rooftops away and we get a montage of her doing parkour for 3 minutes but taking forever to get there.
Then we get the equivalent of Darth Vader's "Nooooooooooooo" as Obi Wan flies away on what appears to be a sublight-speed cargo barge, but she just stands there yelling cheesy lines at the departing ship. Go get on a fast ship and catch him!!
Ugh. I can see people saying Meh and the ones who really dislike it. I just cannot imagine the mental gymnastics some of the fanboys are having to do to defend this as really great.
And yeah the Leia chase scenes were so dumb. At no time before she floated through space in one of the last movies was it ever hinted she had some super running speed power... this was literally a 4 or 5 year old girl outrunning adults.
She's supposedly 10 in this show but looks like a 3 yr old running. Look at her running in episode one. It's why I said she may have a disability or she's just highly behind her age on the developmental scale.
What?!?!? 10?!?!?
Glad the posts that follow agreed.BenFiasco14 said:Garrelli 5000 said:
Compared to the other Disney SW series. This is horrible. Is it Intentional? Tribute to Lucas?
I don't know what it the most awful - the acting, screenplay, or directing v
Phantom menace is smiling. Post Jedi Lucas was blasted for how bad it was but the history made it endure. If this is purposely a throwback to the "good old days" pretending phantom menace was worth repeating…episodes one and most of two were justifiably panned at the time. You're fooling yourselves if you suddenly think they needed to be repeated.
This is dog *****
Wow. So much to unpack here. From the anger out of nowhere to the freezing cold take.
Your opinion is bad; and you should feel bad.
Bad acting, writing, and directing.
Sorry your Santa isn't real.
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