I love following all these threads on potential coaches but man it drives me bonkers that we'll have to wait probably 2-3 weeks until whoever we get is done playing. My nerves will be shot haha.

TXAggie2011 said:

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The ND coach has only been there for like 2 years and was previously successful at UNC Greensboro. And I think if there was something particularly special about ND's scholarship situation, they wouldn't have wallowed in mediocrity for the 15 years since Paul Manieri left.

Arizona State and LSU both hired successful Notre Dame coaches and it was among the best things either program has ever done. Although yes, its been awhile since both of those hires.

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Notre Dame has the exact same financial situation as Vanderbilt. It still takes the right coach to make it work but those schools are different. I don't know when ND went to this financial model so I can't comment on those other coaches I just know that their current coach has a financial advantage compared to us. LSU does as well so Manierri succeeding there isn't as significant as it looks. Maybe two years isn't sufficient to milk that advantage and yes his time at Greensboro is good. It's possible the ND financial advantage is somewhat offset offset by geography, I can't answer that either. I just know we can look at Vanderbilt under Corbin and simultaneously acknowledge that he's a hell of a coach who is probably recruiting with the equivalent of 20-25 scholarships. Likewise anyone at ND has that same opportunity and given that you have to question how effective he would be at a school playing with much closer to the 11.7 that is actually allowed.

My point is that in a sport with a significant variance in scholarship situations from school to school my preference is to hire a guy that has succeeded in as similar a position to A&M as possible. That's what Tadlock was my first choice and why Schloss is my second. I can't find any significant advantage that either of those schools have over A&M. Vitello, Godwin and several others all have some sort of advantage and we need to be aware of those things. Doesn't make them deal breakers but it is significant information.

LOYAL AG said:

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Jarrin' Jay said:

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Unless Schloss is looking for a new challenge or wants to compete in the SEC I don't think our job is better than what he has right now, and that was obviously proven over the weekend and the NCAA announcement.

Just don't be surprised if the hire is from a mid-major or an assistant coach, either of which I am fine with. This is not football, it's a different dynamic, and we could very well strike out on many of the targets mentioned in this thread.

If we were going to poach a HC my $$ would be on the ND coach. I don't see any reason Schloss of Vitello would make the move, though I would be happy with either.

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....If he's content to keep coaching minor league ball then this job isn't better than TCU....

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I'm as big an SEC homer and anti little 12 guy there is, but that statement is a stretch. frog knocked us out of 2 SRs and also gave us a 2nd L in the CWS, the top 8 seed they were just awarded, current ranking, etc., etc. is not done playing minor league ball.

100% agree the SEC is a better conference but if you were ranking college baseball conferences it would go SEC, little 12, ACC, etc.

Most definitely the SEC is a tougher challenge week in and week out and is a better conference, but the cow conference is a good baseball conference overall.

BIDS BY CONFERENCESoutheastern
9 (Alabama, Arkansas, Florida, LSU, Mississippi St., Ole Miss, South Carolina, Tennessee, Vanderbilt)
Atlantic Coast
8 (Duke, Florida St., Georgia Tech, Miami-FL, NC State, North Carolina, Notre Dame, Virginia)
Pac-12
6 (Arizona, Arizona St., Oregon, Oregon St., Stanford, UCLA)
Big 12
4 (Oklahoma St., TCU, Texas, Texas Tech)
Conference USA
4 (Charlotte, Louisiana Tech, Old Dominion, Southern Miss.)
Big Ten
3 (Maryland, Michigan, Nebraska)

Jarrin' Jay said:

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LOYAL AG said:

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Jarrin' Jay said:

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Unless Schloss is looking for a new challenge or wants to compete in the SEC I don't think our job is better than what he has right now, and that was obviously proven over the weekend and the NCAA announcement.

Just don't be surprised if the hire is from a mid-major or an assistant coach, either of which I am fine with. This is not football, it's a different dynamic, and we could very well strike out on many of the targets mentioned in this thread.

If we were going to poach a HC my $$ would be on the ND coach. I don't see any reason Schloss of Vitello would make the move, though I would be happy with either.

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....If he's content to keep coaching minor league ball then this job isn't better than TCU....

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I'm as big an SEC home and anti little 12 guy there is, but that statement is a stretch. frog knocked us out of 2 SRs and also gave us a 2nd L in the CWS, the top 8 seed they were just awarded, current ranking, etc., etc. is not done playing minor league ball.

100% agree the SEC is a better conference but if you were ranking college baseball conferences it would go SEC, little 12, ACC, etc.

Most definitely the SEC is a tougher challenge week in and week out and is a better conference, but the cow conference is a good baseball conference overall.

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Great post.

And I think we get Schloss.

Liucci said on the radio that Bjork is conducting in-person interviews. Anyone looking at Flightaware? haha

CrottyKid said:

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Liucci said on the radio that Bjork is conducting in-person interviews. Anyone looking at Flightaware? haha

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I had it on good authority an A&M branded Learjet was in Fort Worth but during the Big 12 tournament so I assume it was unrelated

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Liucci said on the radio that Bjork is conducting in-person interviews.

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Right now? While teams are preparing for the postseason? That's a bit surprising. I would think a coach wouldn't want to talk about a new job until his current team is finished with the post season.

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There was a post on Premium quoting Craig Way as saying that Bjork was in OKC during the Big XII tournament, presumably to interview someone (Schloss) for the baseball opening.

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That's where he signed the napkin.

This one...

I dont believe we get down to him as an option. And he has done a fabulous job at DBU. I drove by there on the way out to Fort Worth National Cemetary last week. I don't think folks realize that school is not much more than a glorified JUCO.

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I dont believe we get down to him as an option. And he has done a fabulous job at DBU. I drove by there on the way out to Fort Worth National Cemetary last week. I don't think folks realize that school is not much more than a glorified JUCO.

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He's the hire that you would expect to do great things with some serious facilities and budget based off what he's done with their tiny athletic department.

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I dont believe we get down to him as an option. And he has done a fabulous job at DBU. I drove by there on the way out to Fort Worth National Cemetary last week. I don't think folks realize that school is not much more than a glorified JUCO.

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False. They offer four-uear degrees which some previous community colleges like Collin just now are competing with. And masters and two doctoral programs. Their business school is not world caliber but is a good place for Metroplex managers to get basic business and MBA degrees. The size is workable though I'll acknowledge they have satellite classes and not all undergraduates are on campus but quite a few are. Over 4K students so not tiny. Only about 700 per undergraduate class so at least some courses have more personal instruction. Kind of on the path for what Houston Baptist turned into over the years. And now gradually building athletics.

Their baseball program has been a perennial winner since entering Div I. Not necessarily an overachiever, but have been in a NCAA Regional all but four years Heefner has been there. It was a VERY solid hire and their admin have supported him and gotten funds raised.

I don't understand why we use put downs to discuss information that deserves a less emotional and less biased look.

Because we have a bunch of posters who think if we do not hire Schloss or Vitello we "whiffed".

Even if after interviews we feel like another coach is a better hire.

And you can not change their minds. It is like they personally lost "hand" with their sip buds.

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austinag1997 said:

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I dont believe we get down to him as an option. And he has done a fabulous job at DBU. I drove by there on the way out to Fort Worth National Cemetary last week. I don't think folks realize that school is not much more than a glorified JUCO.

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False. They offer four-uear degrees which some previous community colleges like Collin just now are competing with. And masters and two doctoral programs. Their business school is not world caliber but is a good place for Metroplex managers to get basic business and MBA degrees. The size is workable though I'll acknowledge they have satellite classes and not all undergraduates are on campus but quite a few are. Over 4K students so not tiny. Only about 700 per undergraduate class so at least some courses have more personal instruction. Kind of on the path for what Houston Baptist turned into over the years. And now gradually building athletics.

Their baseball program has been a perennial winner since entering Div I. Not necessarily an overachiever, but have been in a NCAA Regional all but four years Heefner has been there. It was a VERY solid hire and their admin have supported him and gotten funds raised.

I don't understand why we use put downs to discuss information that deserves a less emotional and less biased look.

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First, it was meant to recognize what a great job their coach has done with limited resources.

Second, drive by the campus. It looks like a community college. I didn't say thar they dont provide a quality education did I?

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austinag1997 said:

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I dont believe we get down to him as an option. And he has done a fabulous job at DBU. I drove by there on the way out to Fort Worth National Cemetary last week. I don't think folks realize that school is not much more than a glorified JUCO.

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False. They offer four-uear degrees which some previous community colleges like Collin just now are competing with. And masters and two doctoral programs. Their business school is not world caliber but is a good place for Metroplex managers to get basic business and MBA degrees. The size is workable though I'll acknowledge they have satellite classes and not all undergraduates are on campus but quite a few are. Over 4K students so not tiny. Only about 700 per undergraduate class so at least some courses have more personal instruction. Kind of on the path for what Houston Baptist turned into over the years. And now gradually building athletics.

Their baseball program has been a perennial winner since entering Div I. Not necessarily an overachiever, but have been in a NCAA Regional all but four years Heefner has been there. It was a VERY solid hire and their admin have supported him and gotten funds raised.

I don't understand why we use put downs to discuss information that deserves a less emotional and less biased look.

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You sure are proud of your masters from DBU.

Luke The Drifter said:

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If we go with Heefner, he just got more expensive.

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Not really.

My younger daughter - no Rule #1 - is a sophomore at DBU. They work very hard to make it affordable, so much to the point where we'll actually pay less for her to attend DBU than we paid for the older daughter - still no Rule #1 - to attend A&M (class of '14.)