BMX Bandit said:
Sorry that reality makes you so mad. Cowboy fans don't give a flying F about division titles. Only championships matter for certain teams. cowboys are one of those teams.
have we really fallen so far as a fan base that you are claiming super bowls aren't all that matters? sad times.
Panama Red said:
If he's Class of '11, then he probably does not even remember any Super Bowls. Looks like a generational thing. We olds expect more from America's Team than winning the Division and getting awards for good salary cap management.
And I admit, that its probably not a realistic exception. We were just spoiled I guess.
Veteran tackle Chuma Edoga suffered a toe injury in preseason opener vs. the Rams that will force him to miss time into the regular season, per sources. No determination has been made on possible surgery yet. First-round pick Tyler Guyton with path to a starting left tackle job.
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Infection_Ag11 said:Panama Red said:
If he's Class of '11, then he probably does not even remember any Super Bowls. Looks like a generational thing. We olds expect more from America's Team than winning the Division and getting awards for good salary cap management.
And I admit, that its probably not a realistic exception. We were just spoiled I guess.
It just represents a fundamental misunderstanding of the modern game. The current rule structures, FA rules and spending limitations make this a fundamentally different sport than the one played from the 60s through the mid-90s.
The NFL is a salary capped league with a single elimination postseason format. These together create an exceptional amount of parity and allow for random chance to have a huge impact on who wins titles. The goal of modern NFL franchise is to have a competitive team with a good QB as often as possible and continue making the postseason until the stars align for you. Outside of having a generational transcendent QB that can carry almost any roster consistently across time, of which there is currently only one in the league, that's just reality. And anyone claiming "titles are all that matter" have a dated an irrational view of professional football. Yes, 1990 was a failure for the San Francisco 49ers because they didn't win their third straight superbowl. They were the best team with a stacked roster and crazy high payroll in a pre-cap era. The game between them and the Giants was massive. But the sport is just different now.
Except Eli killed it in the playoffs in both years, in 2011 he averaged over 300 per game in the post season. Eli, like Flacco found a way to win the games. Eli has 2 of the 6 wins ever in Lambeau Field on the playoffs by a non Packers QB. Great teams find ways to win, Dallas never does because they are all finesse with no identity on defense.BassCowboy33 said:Infection_Ag11 said:Panama Red said:
If he's Class of '11, then he probably does not even remember any Super Bowls. Looks like a generational thing. We olds expect more from America's Team than winning the Division and getting awards for good salary cap management.
And I admit, that its probably not a realistic exception. We were just spoiled I guess.
It just represents a fundamental misunderstanding of the modern game. The current rule structures, FA rules and spending limitations make this a fundamentally different sport than the one played from the 60s through the mid-90s.
The NFL is a salary capped league with a single elimination postseason format. These together create an exceptional amount of parity and allow for random chance to have a huge impact on who wins titles. The goal of modern NFL franchise is to have a competitive team with a good QB as often as possible and continue making the postseason until the stars align for you. Outside of having a generational transcendent QB that can carry almost any roster consistently across time, of which there is currently only one in the league, that's just reality. And anyone claiming "titles are all that matter" have a dated an irrational view of professional football. Yes, 1990 was a failure for the San Francisco 49ers because they didn't win their third straight superbowl. They were the best team with a stacked roster and crazy high payroll in a pre-cap era. The game between them and the Giants was massive. But the sport is just different now.
I always think of the Giants as the extreme beneficiaries of this setup. They were exceedingly mid, I think 9-7, and dragged Eli Manning to two super bowls on the back of a terrifying defensive line.
VP at Pierce and Pierce said:Except Eli killed it in the playoffs in both years, in 2011 he averaged over 300 per game in the post season. Eli, like Flacco found a way to win the games. Eli has 2 of the 6 wins ever in Lambeau Field on the playoffs by a non Packers QB. Great teams find ways to win, Dallas never does because they are all finesse with no identity on defense.BassCowboy33 said:Infection_Ag11 said:Panama Red said:
If he's Class of '11, then he probably does not even remember any Super Bowls. Looks like a generational thing. We olds expect more from America's Team than winning the Division and getting awards for good salary cap management.
And I admit, that its probably not a realistic exception. We were just spoiled I guess.
It just represents a fundamental misunderstanding of the modern game. The current rule structures, FA rules and spending limitations make this a fundamentally different sport than the one played from the 60s through the mid-90s.
The NFL is a salary capped league with a single elimination postseason format. These together create an exceptional amount of parity and allow for random chance to have a huge impact on who wins titles. The goal of modern NFL franchise is to have a competitive team with a good QB as often as possible and continue making the postseason until the stars align for you. Outside of having a generational transcendent QB that can carry almost any roster consistently across time, of which there is currently only one in the league, that's just reality. And anyone claiming "titles are all that matter" have a dated an irrational view of professional football. Yes, 1990 was a failure for the San Francisco 49ers because they didn't win their third straight superbowl. They were the best team with a stacked roster and crazy high payroll in a pre-cap era. The game between them and the Giants was massive. But the sport is just different now.
I always think of the Giants as the extreme beneficiaries of this setup. They were exceedingly mid, I think 9-7, and dragged Eli Manning to two super bowls on the back of a terrifying defensive line.
VP at Pierce and Pierce said:
Yup I know but at the end of the day when he had the chance he seized it.
jr15aggie said:
Finally got around to watching 3 quarters of the game. My first thought after watching:
Overshown was the best player on the field in that game! I said it last year and I'll say it again... It's only preseason and we haven't seen him play "real NFL football" yet, but that guy looks like a Pro Bowl linebacker. Fast and very physical. He's really really good.
Tksymm7 said:
Are the Cowboys and the Joneses Cheap? Or are they just a little too pragmatic when it comes to handing out contracts or free agency to improve the team?
A lot of NFL teams hand out contracts to WRs coming off acl surgery or to a runningback that shows up out of shape, is known to party too much and has off the field trouble? Or hands out a big contract to a linebacker after 1 good year (contract year) that has drop foot?Macarthur said:
Just like anything, I think we judge them so much because they're our team.
There are lots of NFL teams that hand out bad contracts.
That's just the Cowboys PR. They rank in the bottom of the league when is comes to spending money on the roster, whether you're talking about extensions, trades or FA contracts. Given the franchise value, they are the very definition of cheapjr15aggie said:Tksymm7 said:
Are the Cowboys and the Joneses Cheap? Or are they just a little too pragmatic when it comes to handing out contracts or free agency to improve the team?
They certainly aren't cheap. You could argue that they are terrible at managing the cap, but they aren't cheap.
I personally don't think they are bad at managing the cap, but they've certainly given out their fair share of bad contracts (Zeke, Gallup, & Jaylon Smith are the most recent bombs).
If the NFL didn't have the salary cap, the Jones's would be trying to buy championships like the Yankees and Dodgers do every year. And like those teams, it wouldn't work all the time, but we'd certainly have a couple more trophies in our case.
VP at Pierce and Pierce said:A lot of NFL teams hand out contracts to WRs coming off acl surgery or to a runningback that shows up out of shape, is known to party too much and has off the field trouble? Or hands out a big contract to a linebacker after 1 good year (contract year) that has drop foot?Macarthur said:
Just like anything, I think we judge them so much because they're our team.
There are lots of NFL teams that hand out bad contracts.
"Uh I dont know" - Tony Romo
cman1494 said:
Any updates on Overshown's injury? I hope nothing serious….
they have to be cheap in free agency because all of the money is wasted on re-signing their own players to bad contractsTksymm7 said:
I ask because I saw Mike Greenberg on the McAfee Show today just berating the Cowboys and calling them cheap. I disagreed on pretty much everything except free agency.
justnobody79 said:they have to be cheap in free agency because all of the money is wasted on re-signing their own players to bad contractsTksymm7 said:
I ask because I saw Mike Greenberg on the McAfee Show today just berating the Cowboys and calling them cheap. I disagreed on pretty much everything except free agency.
