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Joan Wilder
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12:44p, 5/25/06
Henry was very cryptic in his directions to Michael, "you will find rescue." I think that was vague and prescient for a reason. He almost pronounced it 'Rescue' with a capital R, that it might not mean what Michael thinks it will mean.

His speech on why Michael wouldn't rat out the location probably worked on Michael, but honestly, if Michael gets picked up by a ship would he really not say there are 40 other survivors of Flight 815 on this island that need help? I hope he wouldn't be that selfish.
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Sbisa04
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12:52p, 5/25/06
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I hope he wouldn't be that selfish


Umm...he just killed two people and betrayed 4 others to get to see his son again. I'm betting that he is a pretty selfish individual.
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Joan Wilder
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1:17p, 5/25/06
LOL. I guess I hit submit before I finished what I was planning to type, which was, "I hope he wouldn't be that selfish but knowing Michael he'll probably listen to Henry and screw all his fellow castaways."

Would Walt keep quiet? I wonder what they've been doing with Walt the last 2 months?
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Sbisa04
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1:23p, 5/25/06
Exactly, I thought Walt looked pretty calm considering their friends are on the dock with the Others bound and gagged. Knowing Walt, he should have been freaking out.
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aggiechick06
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3:50p, 5/25/06
i apologize if this question has already been addressed, but...the man who originally took desmond to the hatch. was he one of the "others" or just another man that was in the same situation on the island?
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NoACDamnit
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4:14p, 5/25/06
If he was one of the Others they gave us nothing to conclude that. He was also the same guy (or a twin) that interrogated Sayid in the gulf war.
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cone
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4:33p, 5/25/06
There's no indication on whether Kelvin is really dead or not. Desmond said he was dead and we saw him hit his head, but that could have been all been a ploy and we have no clues as to whether Desmond went back out and buried the body.

I've gotta believe that Desmond noticing the tear in the suit and following Kelvin out of the hatch and consequently not pressing the button was not simply a random event. Else it would make the plane crash totally random.
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Sbisa04
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4:39p, 5/25/06
wouldn't it be hard to guess how someone will react in that situation though? what if he just spoke up about the tear and then Inman just changed suits? nothing would have happened.
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cone
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5:01p, 5/25/06
There's no question it would be hard to guess. But, to me, this show is anything but random. There's a reason this group of people is on the island... Locke stopped believing and he was admittedly wrong.
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5:32p, 5/25/06
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If he was one of the Others they gave us nothing to conclude that. He was also the same guy (or a twin) that interrogated Sayid in the gulf war.


Some other people on the internet seem to think he is a "twin." Not sure why, could just as easily be the same guy using a different name, unless there is something they caught regarding the timing.

Also, I agree, it was never made clear exactly why he was in the hatch with Radlinsky or whatever. When he said "instead I was recruited into the Dharma Initiative" or whatever, its possible it was sarcasm. I.e. John Locke could say he was recruited into the Dharma Initiative.
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06thMan
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5:35p, 5/25/06
i dont get to watch the season finale till I get back to my DVR at school...
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NoACDamnit
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6:41p, 5/25/06
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There's no question it would be hard to guess. But, to me, this show is anything but random. There's a reason this group of people is on the island... Locke stopped believing and he was admittedly wrong.


You only have half of it though. This show is about opposing forces that coexist together. Faith and science. Randomness and fate. We're constantly questioning which is which. It's far too simple to say "It's all faith" or "It's all random."
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AgShaun00
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7:06p, 5/25/06
06, download it on abc.com
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Dro07
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7:25p, 5/25/06
alright here goes...

Desmond crashed because the Island pointed him to north and he didnt see it.

I think the explosion caused a reverse magnet thus throwing the hatch like an explosion when there wasnt.

I think the gf father is behind it. He made it seem that he needed to stay there and push the button or else the world would explode or whatever. He knew that he would do this because it would mean he would be saving Pen's life. So he would stay there FOOOOOOOOORRRR EEEEVVVVEEEERR!!
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nelson muntz
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9:48p, 5/25/06
I also think that Libby had something to do with everyone coming to the island. I think she worked for the Dharma Initiative and was responsible for getting people there. For whatever reason, she decided to get on the plane also.

I also think the Others somehow took control of the project and issued a call for more people for their own research. They knew the names and bios of the people coming before they even crashed.

Of course, all of this assumes that the plane crash was not random. Did we ever get the full story as to why the plane was so far off course before it crashed?
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cone
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10:13p, 5/25/06
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It's far too simple to say "It's all faith" or "It's all random."


I kind of agree. There's certainly a competing duality of predestination and random luck. It's just hard for me to believe that the writers would concede the entire premise of the show (that being an severely interconnected group of travelers surviving a plane crash) was the result of being in the wrong place at the wrong time... especially given what the island has done to them all in the time they've been there. I guess you could speculate that the writers are trying to express that every plane-load of people is interconnected in a similarly oblique manner (and in ways that few of them have grasped in their two month stretch of intimate contact)... but the conspiracy angle is way cooler.
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Squirrel Master
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11:22p, 5/25/06
It's safe to say that this show is unlike anything that has ever been on TV before. An incredibly in-depth and fascinating character study combined with an extremely mysterious and compelling plot, that while at times slow-moving, can generate a season-long texags thread that goes 48 pgs(to date).

My interest in this show was initially piqued by the way they all interacted after the crash. To me it seemed very realistic in how a group of survivors in a situation like that would behave. Now that has evolved into a complex, crazy story about a bizarre island and some mysterious co-inhabitants. While the show and its characters are maturing, and we feel we know them much better, through the genius use of flashbacks we still are learning more and more about who they are and why they behave the way they do.
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ham98
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11:59p, 5/25/06
Observation and a question. If there were survivors from the ship they got the dynamite from, there could have been people on the island for a long time. How did the ship get so far inland?
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12:16a, 5/26/06
im not positive but i think that roussoue(sp) told them about the ship and how it got there... not 100% on that though
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12:59a, 5/26/06
that episode was insane. it made me feel like i need to go back and watch every other episode to look for things i may have missed the first time. those bastards. all of you who keep saying that michael is sailing right into sayid's path are assuming that sayid gets back on that boat and keeps moving forward. i bet the first episode of next season

1. shows us a little bit about where they take jack, kate and sawyer

2. shows a little about sayid exploring the ghost town

3. shows a LOT about what happened in & to the hatch.

they'll expand on 1 & 2 in the following episode(s)

[This message has been edited by sterlicious (edited 5/25/2006 11:59p).]
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NoACDamnit
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1:45a, 5/26/06
Rousseau didn't tell them how the ship got there. When Hurley asked about it she replied "Are you on the same island I am?"
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4th and Inches
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2:43p, 5/26/06
I think it is safe to say that we have all been MIND F***ed!!!!
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3:57p, 5/26/06
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Agracer, someone suggested the smoke was coming from the hatch explosion. I was explaining that it couldn't have been, since that happened later. My point was that the smoke was Sayid's signal.

OK thanks. You were confusing the hell out of me there!

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There's no indication on whether Kelvin is really dead or not. Desmond said he was dead and we saw him hit his head, but that could have been all been a ploy and we have no clues as to whether Desmond went back out and buried the body.

If he didn't die, why was Desmond's boat still there? Would he not just get on it and sail away like he was going to do anyway?

[This message has been edited by agracer (edited 5/26/2006 3:01p).]
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cone
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4:08p, 5/26/06
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why was Desmond's boat still there? Would he not just get on it and sail away like he was going to do anyway?


Because he's part of the charade? Possibly recruited to convince Desmond to press the button for the rest of his life (and thereby keep him far away from Penny). Bottom line is there's no clear indication what is real and what is fake at this point.

[This message has been edited by SuperDave03 (edited 5/26/2006 3:09p).]
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Tabasco
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4:11p, 5/26/06
So Desmond said his last name is Hume. I remember that name from undergrad philosophy. David Hume, did stuff on causality, determinism, and free will.

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NoACDamnit
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4:13p, 5/26/06
Kelvin had massive amounts of blood pouring out of the back of his skull while he was unconscious.

Kelvin's dead.
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4:36p, 5/26/06
Where was Jin the whole time Sayid was exploring the ghost town? I don't think he would just leave Sayid to go alone and stay and chill on the boat.

"The difference between the impossible and the possible lies in determination."
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Sbisa04
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4:40p, 5/26/06
when the magnet explosion went off and everyone was holding their ears, there was a scene of him and sun sitting on the sailboat.
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cone
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5:11p, 5/26/06
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Kelvin had massive amounts of blood pouring out of the back of his skull while he was unconscious.


Massive? Man, I need to rewatch it when I get home because I didn't notice that. All I recall is him going limp and having a head wound that was briefly shown.
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6:27p, 5/26/06
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8:22p, 5/26/06
Via Lostpedia:



"Headlong Hall" by Thomas Love Peacock, chapter 4 notes:

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Here you see is the pedestal of a statue, with only half a leg and four toes remaining: there were many here once. When I was a boy, I used to sit every day on the shoulders of Hercules: what became of him I have never been able to ascertain.
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cone
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8:28p, 5/26/06
I re-watched the segment where Kelvin hits his head on the rock and I don't see any definitive evidence that says whether Kelvin is alive or dead.

He bangs his head, goes limp, the back of his head is all bloody and there's some blood on the rocks... but there's really nothing that satisifies my skepticism and makes me immediately conclude he's dead... not with regard to this particular show.
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TK03
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12:40p, 5/27/06
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So Desmond said his last name is Hume. I remember that name from undergrad philosophy. David Hume, did stuff on causality, determinism, and free will.


Desmond's middle name was David, wasn't it?
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Whoop05
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4:07p, 5/28/06
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So Desmond said his last name is Hume. I remember that name from undergrad philosophy. David Hume, did stuff on causality, determinism, and free will.
What about John Locke? British philosopher, maybe?
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NoACDamnit
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4:29p, 5/28/06
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What about John Locke? British philosopher, maybe?


Hi, I'm 2 years ago. Have we met?
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