***ONCE UPON A TIME IN HOLLYWOOD***

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I finally watched this last week as time is definitely on our viewing side these days.

I don't know what to make of it honestly. The look and feel of it was simply amazing. I was entertained the entire way through and never lost interest. And then the psycho hippies show and get their asses stomped and its over.
Help me out. Is this a captain obvious statement? The film felt to me like Tarantino wanted to pay homage to a time (late 60's) and place (Hollywood/Southern Cal) that he has probably been enamored with his entire life and the whole tie in to Manson and murders was just kind of a subtle vehicle rolling along in the background that provided a small but satisfying payoff to close the film out. Am I close? A period piece that is really about the period and not the story.

Truthfully, I could watch hours of Cliff and Rick driving around and smoking and talking about sh**. I could watch Margot in late 60's attire fold clothes and be entertained. And speaking of Pitt, probably my favorite performance of his resume alongside Fury and Basturds.

I'm not in camp that thinks this is some masterpiece, or even Tarantino's best film (and I am kind of 50/50 on his films) but I think this will age well for me.
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Sex Panther said:

Sidebar... I randomly watched the first episode of Mad Men while scrolling through Netflix yesterday. Man that show is amazing.

I've been itching to run the entire series back again. Favorite show of all time.
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That definitely made me want to... the test of time has really worked in its favor as now I look back and have it right up there with The Wire and Breaking Bad
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Great movie, so well made.

Didn't expect the ending.

My wife actually said, "who's that?", I said, "Sharon Tate", then she said, "What's she famous for?"

I had to remember that not everyone knows much about Charles Manson.

So I said "she married Roman Polanski", then I had to explain who he was....

I didn't want to spoil the ending...but then she wasn't murdered, and I had to explain how the movie was a fairy tale.

Loved it.
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Here's a bored Saturday TLDR post:

I finally got around to watching this movie. I'm not much of a fan of Tarantino's overall but I have to admit he is a master at executing scenes. Each of his movies have incredible and intense scenes that are memorable and make me want to rewatch over and over, but overall he rarely sticks the landing for me. This movie was no different, which was exactly what I thought it would be and why I didn't see it earlier.

As others have stated, the setting was incredible. I mean, just incredible. Tarantino absolutely nailed LA, 1969. I wasn't born until 1974, but as a kid in the 70's and 80's I spent a lot of time in Los Angeles; growing up about 4 1/2 hours north of LA, I would spend a lot of time with family that lived there during the summers. One of my Great Uncles worked in Hollywood as a wrangler and stunt rider on Westerns, and another great uncle was a barnstormer and stunt pilot that flew planes in some Hollywood productions (including Howard Hughes' Hell's Angels). So watching this movie took me back to a period in my youth that took place 8-10 years after these events. It was a really cool feeling to see a lot of the landmarks that I saw when I was a kid, and a lot of the lore that I grew up learning about from stories my family told.

Anyway, that was quite a digression.

I loved the scenes with Rick Dalton on set. Cliff Booth at home with his dog. All of Sharon Tate's scenes were really good, and I think Margot Robbie did a decent job of capturing her. From what little I've seen or read about her, Sharon was a sweet and decent person as portrayed here.

But exactly like Inglorious Basterds, I just didn't like the ending. It comes off as cheap revenge porn to me. I mean, yes I would have liked it if Hitler was actually shot into 10,000 pieces in real life, or that the Manson killers had died like in this movie and Tate and the others had lived. But I just have mixed feelings about this stuff when it comes to real events and real people. It's not even a counterfactual scenario, because we don't see what the world would be like had the events played out. And seeing Susan Atkins flail about and scream as she's getting mauled by the dog and then torched in the pool was just, I don't know... icky.

Overall I enjoyed and will probably watch the first and second acts again when it appears on TV, but it didn't live up to the hype it got.
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I really liked it. SOOOOO Tarantino which makes it very entertaining IMO. I had no idea what to expect so was pleasantly surprised. I thought Pitt's character was phenomenal. I especially enjoyed the scene with "Kato".

Spent too much time on the acting BS and scenes with Leo though.
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Bit of a tangent, but thought some of yall might be interested in this:

https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/heat-vision/cowboy-comic-palomino-launches-crowdfunding-campaign-1289845




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"Cowboy culture is central to California's history," Franck said in a statement about the new project. "It came out West with the Dust Bowl Okie migration that Steinbeck depicted in Grapes of Wrath, showed up again in Easy Rider and the hippy generation's cosmic cowboys, and in one form or another sold the American century to the world and to America itself. On one level, Palomino is about the lost subculture of L.A.'s country-western music scene of the 1980s, but it's also about people living inside the myth-making machine, motivated by the belief that, here in the West, you can always reinvent yourself."

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In terms of comics, Franck is known for his crowdfunded vampire series Silver, but many may be more familiar with his work as an animator; he's worked on both The Iron Giant and Spider-Man: Into the Spider-Verse, and he's head of animation on Marvel's What If?, currently in production for Disney+.
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https://instagr.am/p/CB_hpYllME1

Mind blown.
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You can buy Polanski's MG. *

As well as the Rick's Cadillac and Cliff's Gia



https://www.indiewire.com/2020/07/once-upon-a-time-in-hollywood-cars-auction-1234574933/

*From the movie
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One year ago today.

One of the greatest movies - about movies - of all time.

Makes me miss theater-going even more...



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I came to post about the auction when I found the got damned hippy car listed, but I see Duncan already posted.

I'll be interested to see how much these go for in a few days.

I think the hippy murder car would be fun to tool around in.

https://propstoreauction.com/m/lot-details/index/catalog/267/lot/62618/?url=%2Fm%2Fsearch%2F%3Fkey%3Donce%2520upon%2520a%2520time%2520in%2520hollywood




Rick's Caddy:


You can also get Rick's Italian movie posters:


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The Karmann Ghia went for 50k.
Rick's Caddy for 45.

The hippy murder care and Pontiac Firebird went unsold.

The same auction also sold one of Josey Wales' pistols for $72,500!


https://propstoreauction.com/m/lot-details/index/catalog/267/lot/62616/?url=%2Fm%2Fsearch%2F%3Fkey%3Donce%2520upon%2520a%2520time%2520in%2520hollywood
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A decent amount of previously unused footage in this new trailer for Tarantino's novelization of the movie, releasing June 29...

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TCTTS said:

A decent amount of previously unused footage in this new trailer for Tarantino's novelization of the movie, releasing June 29...


I am borderline obsessed with this movie, which I didn't think I would be. I could probably watch it several times a week and not get tired of it. Wife thinks it's pretty weird how much I like it, and I can't count how many friends or peers have said they "just don't get it", but it is firmly in my top 3 of all time. I was only born in 81, but the nostalgia this movie oozes is unmatched and I find myself wishing I could go back to those simpler times. I would easily watch the 4 or 4.5 hr version. And if he released a 20 hr version as a 10 part mini series I'd binge the hell out of it.

This may be a stupid question, but is he literally releasing a novel based on the movie? Or is this a creative QT marketing thing?

Man I f'n love that movie. Just wish I hadn't blown it off for so long and would have seen it in theaters. For some reason I thought surely it would be his worst, not even worth watching.
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SB 43rd STREET OG said:

TCTTS said:

A decent amount of previously unused footage in this new trailer for Tarantino's novelization of the movie, releasing June 29...


I am borderline obsessed with this movie, which I didn't think I would be. I could probably watch it several times a week and not get tired of it. Wife thinks it's pretty weird how much I like it, and I can't count how many friends or peers have said they "just don't get it", but it is firmly in my top 3 of all time. I was only born in 81, but the nostalgia this movie oozes is unmatched and I find myself wishing I could go back to those simpler times. I would easily watch the 4 or 4.5 hr version. And if he released a 20 hr version as a 10 part mini series I'd binge the hell out of it.

This may be a stupid question, but is he literally releasing a novel based on the movie? Or is this a creative QT marketing thing?

Man I f'n love that movie. Just wish I hadn't blown it off for so long and would have seen it in theaters. For some reason I thought surely it would be his worst, not even worth watching.

Right there with you. Top ten all-time for me. I could (and do) watch it over and over again, and will eagerly take whatever else Tarantino has to offer from it.

As for the novel specifically, Tarantino literally wrote it - his first-ever novel - so it's a bit different than your average movie novelization. I have no idea why he wrote it, I just assume he had way more to say about these characters and this world than he could squeeze into the movie.
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I could watch Dana Carvey reenact this whole movie.

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Belton Ag,
You know "Hells Angels" was filmed in 1930. I am questioning your narrative.
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I could watch Dana Carvey reenact any movie. Absolute legend.

And that was a side of Tarantino I've never seen before. Great interview.
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That was great and I feel the same way. This was not Quentin's best film, but it was my favorite and highly rewatchable and very quotable. Could be this generations big Lebowski
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dcAg said:

Belton Ag,
You know "Hells Angels" was filmed in 1930. I am questioning your narrative.
I know exactly when it was filmed. What difference does the year make?
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Belton Ag said:

dcAg said:

Belton Ag,
You know "Hells Angels" was filmed in 1930. I am questioning your narrative.
I know exactly when it was filmed. What difference does the year make?

You made a statement about events 8-10 years before a list of stuff including your uncle working on Hell's Angels.

I'm sure you were referring to other events you listed but it wasn't specific to which you were referring. So it is a bit confusing.




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One of my Great Uncles worked in Hollywood as a wrangler and stunt rider on Westerns, and another great uncle was a barnstormer and stunt pilot that flew planes in some Hollywood productions (including Howard Hughes' Hell's Angels). So watching this movie took me back to a period in my youth that took place 8-10 years after these events.

The statement immediately follows that comment.
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Zombie Jon Snow said:

Belton Ag said:

dcAg said:

Belton Ag,
You know "Hells Angels" was filmed in 1930. I am questioning your narrative.
I know exactly when it was filmed. What difference does the year make?

You made a statement about events 8-10 years before a list of stuff including your uncle working on Hell's Angels.

I'm sure you were referring to other events you listed but it wasn't specific to which you were referring. So it is a bit confusing.




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One of my Great Uncles worked in Hollywood as a wrangler and stunt rider on Westerns, and another great uncle was a barnstormer and stunt pilot that flew planes in some Hollywood productions (including Howard Hughes' Hell's Angels). So watching this movie took me back to a period in my youth that took place 8-10 years after these events.

The statement immediately follows that comment.
Oh… I guess it's poorly worded. I had a couple family members, including my Grandfather's brother, that was involved in some early hollywood productions and retired, grew old and died in LA. When I was a young kid I would often spend time in the summer in Southern California visiting these people. Even though this was 10 years or so after the events depicted in this movie, the look of LA at this time wasn't all that different.
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I'm going to bump this. This is one of the best movies of all time.
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I think the folks that enjoyed once upon a time will also enjoy Bullet Train. I just saw it and highly recommend to anyone who doesn't mind a lot of movie violence.
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Brian Earl Spilner
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Bullet Train did feel a bit Tarantino-esque. But more like Kill Bill.
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TCTTS said:

How dare you leave off Top Gun: Maverick.

There's also Glass (the Unbreakable sequel) and Godzilla: King of the Monsters, which I'm looking forward to as well.

But yeah, next year could be a great one. I'll try to get a 2019 release thread going here in the next month or so, when I can find the time, as I'm sure a couple 2019 trailers will start dropping this summer.


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I've been wanting to see Cruise in a QT movie for years. Sadly there's only one more chance for this.
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So Rick Dalton is playing the heavy in what sound to me to be episodic television shows, not feature films. I assume this because Pacino was comparing his shows to Mannix. It just seems to me that the tv show scenes within the movie are very movielike in content and far different than my recollection of Magnum PI shows in the 80s. Most scenes wouldn't last more than a minute or two. Were old western tv shows that detailed?

I also came across this. This is an older thread so I don't know if has been discussed. He's an interesting character. I'll be reading this book. I'd like to see what Tarantino thinks a world without the Manson murders would be like. I guess Manson would have just recruited more kids, and done it again. But, it really was a culture shifting event. Similar to Capote with Cold Blood, those types of stories were significant in changing mainstream America to the corruption of western society.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Films_of_Rick_Dalton
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Bump because I finally saw this. Holy crap what a fantastic movie. Not sure yet if it's my favorite QT, but it's in the conversation.
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I think QT shtick is getting old. The last few movies of his that I've seen have been nothing but revenge porn. I haven't seen them all, but Jackie Brown was the last original story I can think of.
 
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