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**walking dead season 3 thread** [2/16 Staff Warnings: ppg: 38, 42]

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DanTheMan55
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i wonder what percentage of the population is left??

They really dont run into that many real people considering how populated the area was before. I think the gas and food will last a very long time if say 10% of the population is left.
BillOnCapitolHill
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I wouldn't say 10%.

This means in a country of 300M you think 30M are still up and running.. Essentially a population the size of Texas is still operating, albeit scattered, in the US. Seems too high IMO.
Malachi Constant
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There can't be that many "new" walkers getting generated.

It's not like there is a nursing home where people are dying of old age and becoming walkers.

Most all new walkers now are people that get killed by other people, but you would have to expect they're shooting them through the head to prevent their turning.

So, one had to imagine the amount of walkers is quickly dwindling.
Malachi Constant
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Posted above to demonstrate command of their, there, and they're...
HeavyMetalAg
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Wait, so is it supposed to be bacterial or viral?


They haven't said. I also love what they did with the CDC, having the last worker there tell them that they weren't able to find anything definitive, then having it blow up. It's like they said "No one will ever know for sure, since the people with the qualifications and technology to find out are gone forever."

That's not to say fans can't argue the fact. I'd go with viral, myself. Maybe prion (mad cow disease). Bacteria are stubborn, but predictable and don't spread very fast. Viruses are faster spreading and pretty unpredictable. They can mutate fast to change vectors and any other sort of stuff. There's a reason we don't have a cure for the common cold (mutates strains all the time), and why a new flu faccine comes out every year (a new strain mutates about every year).

Almost all infected wounds you may get in an apocalyptic world are bacteria based. That's why having antibiotics around would be really helpful, just for general use. But if a virus gets in, you're going to have problems. Antibiotics don't do much against them. A pre-emptive vaccine is the best defense against viruses, and it sure looks like scientists weren't able to put one together before everything went down. An with the "everyone's infected" thing going on, a vaccine may be too little too late.
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I don't think all said and done they are that far from Atlanta.

I'd be an interesting, computer sci 101 type program. Take about 5 million dots tightly centered in one area, and then allow for a random walk type response.

At some point, maybe not in the months the show has happened, but eventually those dots would spread out a decent among the surrounding area.


Now you would think out in places like West Texas and the like you could easily go months without seeing a walker. But like most things, where you're least likely to see others you also are in a place that's harder to live or less supplies.




i would think they would move away from center, but still clump together like cereal floating at the surface of a mostly empty bowl of milk. no real reason, just proximity and attraction
HeavyMetalAg
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It's not like there is a nursing home where people are dying of old age and becoming walkers.


Interesting idea. Good chance that the workers just decided to leave anyone there that couldn't fend for themselves. I would also wonder how long everyone has been infected. If there was a long period of dormancy, how many people died and were buried in a grave, and are now a zombie in a casket?
Catch
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Good chance that the workers just decided to leave anyone there that couldn't fend for themselves.


I'd assume that was pretty commonplace. Hell, that's pretty much how we were introduced to Rick. The hospital was locked down and just left his ass there. Kinda curious how many hospital rooms were occupied with walkers when Rick was running around trying to get out. I'd imagine he wasn't the only patient that was left.
double aught
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You guys seem to be forgetting the first season episode where they come across the gangsters who are caring for the old folks.
defroach
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If you take the Ga population (10 mil) and it's square miles (59,425), you get 168 people per square mile.

Zombies wander towards noise. Most people scattered from cities, so it makes sense that zombies would too.

I would not take my chances and assume you would not run into zombies if there are 168 per every sq mile.
defroach
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Also, if you take the whole lower 48 states land size (2.959,000 sq miles) and the population of hte lower 48 (306,675,000), you still get an average of 106/per square mile. So, in theory, every mile around is going to be covered in zombies especially if you are not in the plain states.

And this does not include illegal zombies either, which we know would be crossing the border as well.
MW03
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I'm thinking our folks should read the WWZ chapter about castles and how those people faired. Prisons are the closest things we have to medieval castles in North America. Fortify the one they're at, make occasional raids for necessities and wait things out.



Lestat02
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Stores would have gotten raided within the first day after zombies started showing up. When someone raids a store, they don't take only what they need...they take EVERYTHING! or at least as much as they possibly can. A single Walmart would be cleaned out by the first few dozen people or so who got there.


I could see that scenario, but, as others have pointed out, there are more walkers than non-walkers...At least from what they have shown us.

I guess I expected things to be more like they were in "Zombieland"...Full aisles. I mean, it has only been a year.

Of course, I don't know why they don't go to the highways and clean out the cars like they did in season 2. That seemed like a literal treasure trove of food and supplies (not to mention fuel...car batteries, oil, gas, etc.).

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Also, if you take the whole lower 48 states land size (2.959,000 sq miles) and the population of hte lower 48 (306,675,000), you still get an average of 106/per square mile. So, in theory, every mile around is going to be covered in zombies especially if you are not in the plain states.


I am not sure if this is a good way to go about this analysis. If we stick with the idea that walkers can't figure out how to get out of a stairwell, how are they going to get out of a high-rise?

Also, should we assume that they could make it over the rockies or through desert areas (like Arizona, New Mexico, West Texas)? I think it would be more difficult for walkers to survive outside of temperate zones.

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As far as clearing out zombies, the greater Atlanta area has nearly 5.5 million people. Contrary to what we all keep saying in this thread, the show hasn't said anything about zombies deteriorating to a point that they can no longer walk or function. It makes sense on paper, but that doesn't mean it's a reality in TWD.


That is true. We have seen flesh deteriorate to the point where it slides off of the bone (when they are clearing out the prison) or off of the face (when Lori gets in the car wreck). We haven't seen any underwater walkers yet but we have seen skin that has turned leathery from the elements.

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I'm thinking our folks should read the WWZ chapter about castles and how those people faired. Prisons are the closest things we have to medieval castles in North America. Fortify the one they're at, make occasional raids for necessities and wait things out.


Yep, like the community in Montana (if my memory serves correctly). The prison is a great location, if they could figure out how to secure a secure facility and actually organize a watch that was worth a damn.
defroach
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I am not sure if this is a good way to go about this analysis. If we stick with the idea that walkers can't figure out how to get out of a stairwell, how are they going to get out of a high-rise?

Also, should we assume that they could make it over the rockies or through desert areas (like Arizona, New Mexico, West Texas)? I think it would be more difficult for walkers to survive outside of temperate zones.


I do not disagree with you. But, the argument was based on the greater Atlanta area which means that there are probably a lot more zombies per square mile than a lot of the plain states. So, I still believe that they have a somewhat accurate depection of how many zombies will be roaming around the forest (accurate in an unrealistic event that anything like this happens).

And people being locked in rooms? They have to get bit somehow or die...for that to likely happen, someone has to get into the room and do it. So, the doors probably got open at some point or they were bit while outside (more likely). So yes, there will be some zombies locked in buildings, but I doubt that many people were still going to work in the office buildings after the zombie apocalypse happened, so those buildings would be relatively empty.
HeavyMetalAg
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My guess is that, eventually, zombies would wind up congregating at the coasts. The fewer living people there are, the fewer chances are for them to make noise. Zombies are then more likely to start walking one way, and just keep going. Eventually they reach a coast, regardless of which way they go. The question then is, do they keep walking into the water, turn around, or just hang out like zombie beach bums?
jeffk
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This thread has certainly taken a turn.
tomtomdrumdrum
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This thread has certainly taken a turn.

Ba dum psh
BillOnCapitolHill
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You guys seem to be forgetting the first season episode where they come across the gangsters who are caring for the old folks.

There is a scene that never made S2e1 where the group returned to the Vatos retirement siege. You can find it on YouTube, it's pretty interesting.
Texags is garbage
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Darn, I wanted to believe they were still surviving. ^
Dro07
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nah one of them turned and ate them up form the inside... No prison is safe
BillOnCapitolHill
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Darn, I wanted to believe they were still surviving. ^

Notice it was before the reveal that everyone is infected. The doors aren't busted but opened from the inside.
jeffk
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Maggie will be on Law & Order SVU next Wednesday.
Ol Jock 99
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http://m.youtube.com/#/watch?v=MFOQZ6Sr_dI&desktop_uri=%2Fwatch%3Fv%3DMFOQZ6Sr_dI

Deleted scenes from S2E1.
Bewareofgigem
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nah one of them turned and ate them up form the inside... No prison is safe


Where are yall getting the idea that this happened? Most were shot in the head "execution style", and what supplies were left were taken. There were only a few walkers out in the yard.
Dro07
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Where are yall getting the idea that this happened? Most were shot in the head "execution style", and what supplies were left were taken. There were only a few walkers out in the yard.


They were shot in the dome execution style because they had died and turned. Their bodies didnt look deformed because they werent bitten or mauled on. They died and turned and the remaining survivors that shot them execution style left with their stuff before they were over run.
Bewareofgigem
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I suppose that's reasonable. Certainly more clever than "bad guys shot the place up".
BillOnCapitolHill
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Here is a question, why would mauraders shoot people in the head? If you just want to put them down there are easier shots.

I hope you folks saw the Vatos in the yard were being eaten, if they were attack by men from the outside, why would Vatos be in the yard instead of behind the iron doors?
BillOnCapitolHill
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I think this just a case of Daryl having imperfect info and making inferences based on that info. Up until he finds Shane's victim he has zero evidence people turn when they die.


Hell, if the old people died in their sleep, started walking and got shot in the head, would they look any different than what we saw upstairs? They wouldn't be missing flesh, their mouths wouldn't be stained by dried blood, you probably couldn't tell if he was just stagger wandering from dementia or flesh hunting.

[This message has been edited by Billoncapitolhill (edited 3/20/2013 11:05p).]
AgDC
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Just caught the last episode and have only one comment:

Tyreese: What do you want me to do, shoot her in the back?
ME: Yes Please!
redsquirrelAG
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Good deleted scene. Just seeing that episode makes me want to watch from the beginning again.
Mr. Guy
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Question. Does becoming zombified give you super pit bull jaw strength and tiger razor sharp teeth?

Those z's sure tear through flesh like butter, regular humans couldn't do that.
DE4D
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regular humans couldn't do that



i imagine its the same concept that governs how we use our muscle in lifting weight, if we are unconcious of the effort involved its probably max power all the time, instead of the standard limitation placed by our mental block, runon sentences included
AggieSouth06
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Decomposing mouth = broken teeth when trying to bite into a Hershey bar.

Just one of the many reasons an actual zombie apocalypse would work itself out.
pilgrim82
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Also, feel no pain, have no limitations. We humans stop exerting (usually) when we feel pain. People on drugs sometimes appear to have superhuman strength because they continue to fight through tazers and other force because they aren't feeling the effects...same with zombies...they aren't feeling the effects...they just continue to bite and scratch...they don't feel their teeth or nails pulling out of their sockets or fingers.
Philip J Fry
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I'm leaning towards the idea that the gov was bitten in that last episode. One of the fans asked that question and they totally dismissed it during TD.
 
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