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Bingo. Or at the very least, it hasn't been the same. Shane made the show. And I think despite how annoying Dale was, his loss was significant as well.

If I ever get an acting audition and for some reason they ask me to do some impressions, I'll give them two, both short and sweet.

Shane from the Walking Dead: "Looorrrrriii!!!"

Daryl from the Walking Dead: "Ssoffffffiia!!!"

Boom. Audition nailed.

Why do some people think it is Meryl? It's Merle. How anyone can think it's spelled Meryl confuses me. Unless I've been mispronouncing Meryl Streep all these years.

Is there anywhere I can get caught up on season 3 online for free?

When Shane was on, everyone complained about him. Now he's dead and he was the best part of the show.

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Is there anywhere I can get caught up on season 3 online for free?

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project free tv

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When Shane was on, everyone complained about him. Now he's dead and he was the best part of the show.

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Shane's head-rubbing was kind of goofy but the shane/rick rivalry was the only thing that made the show something more than mindless zombie-killing. Even though he was a "bad guy" a part of me was always rooting for shane because lori is such a biatch and rick was a huge ******.

I'd take shane over black samurai and the new prisoners any day.

If the writers are competent that should change by seasons end

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Funny. I thought it improved dramatically once he was gone.

I've seen all of the episodes at least twice and I didn't think this one was great....BUT I think it laid a lot of groundwork for development.

Of course...the Governor and his absolute love of all things carnage. The slow walk and smile while chaos ensues....I loved it.

2) Blood is thicker than water. Having your child, brother/sister, father/mother, etc is very important and having that connection to the days before is so relevant to how you choose to survive. I don't think Daryl will stay away for long, though as I think that relationship is broken - especially with the way Daryl has grown and Merle has just stayed the same. I did and loved how Daryl kind of cowered when seeing Merle - no matter how tough Daryl is, Merle is still his aggressor and dominant player in their relationship. It's the only time you see Daryl as weakened.

3) Andrea. Sure she's annoying, but I've grown to at least appreciate her character. Where do her loyalties really lie? She now knows that her old crew still exists, but she seems to be a de facto leader of the Woodbury group now. What happens when the two groups collide again, and what will her choice be?

4) Glenn and Maggie. Saw on the Talking Dead that Steven Yuen researched the relationship of sexual assault victims and their partners, and that the partner will typically continue some sort of abuse (typically emotionally/mentally), making the victim feel like they can't do things on their own anymore and demeaning them into a weak being meant for pity only. It can become a very "I know better than you, since you are broken". I want to see how this continues to change Glenn, as I see him as leader of the group.

5) Rick. No one has seen Rick break like this yet...except for Glenn. It's out. Rick's broken. And they've looked to him for their survival since he came into the group. He is and feels responsible for all the mishaps and all the loss, and it's literally driving him mad. How does he/his group recover and keep going?

6) Tyrese!! Come back!! He's an incredible wild card and is in the same boat as every other group leader....protect his group. Period. Rick and his crazy may have severed that, and there is no guarantee that we'll see Tyrese with Rick's group. Does he become a new foe to Rick's group? Or does he feel empathy for Rick's troubled mind and the group?

I know, I know...tl'dr.

Cliff's - I liked the episode. Brought lots of questions and groundwork for the rest of the season. I'm REALLY excited to see how it all pans out.

SPOILER!!!!!

It wasn't lori!!!!!

^ an actual constructive post.

Some of you could ***** about anything. Turn it off if you are going to be babies about every little thing. I sometimes wonder why people watch things if they just wallow in misery about it afterwards with critiques.

Several points here...

I stand by my prediction that Rick died in the hospital in episode 1 and is a zombie who reanimated with fully-functioning organs for some unknown reason. The insanity he's experiencing indicates his brain is finally starting to break down. It will be a slow process, but the decline has begun. Of course I could be wrong about the 2nd part, but I feel strongly about him being a zombie.

I'm starting to like Carl. I hope he turns into a cold-blooded zombie-slaying badass.

I like how Glenn has evolved from this innocent, naive kid into a much more complex grownup. I could see him taking over a much deeper leadership role.

I've said this before, but the casting of Andrew Lincoln as Rick was a horrible mistake, and every episode proves that more and more. He's British, and his accent limits his dialogue. There are certain words and phrases he simply can't say without sounding weird, so the writers' hands are a little tied with him...or they just have him scream, whisper, or talk in a dark gravelly voice instead. Regardless, it makes his character suck.

I hope the writers focus on Carol's character a little more. I think a maternal character capable of the caring and nurturing qualities of a pre-zombie outbreak mother would be a nice touch. And she could carry the torch for Dale who reminded us of the humanity the entire group is trying to achieve once again.

I'd like to see Tyrese's group join Rick's group. It just makes sense. Rick needs to start thinking long-term. They need to fortify the prison and start raising crops. They need the manpower.

The actress playing Andrea is just not a good actress. I've kind of enjoyed her character lately, and I'm looking forward to seeing her emerge as a leader at Woodbury, but I don't like the actress.

Speaking of Woodbury, I'm actually more interested in that community & the governor more than Rick's group. I'd love to see a spinoff of this show that starts at the time of the outbreak, but is shown through the eyes of the governor. It would focus on his journey from normal person prior to the zombie outbreak to where he is now. We'd learn why is the way that he is and how he got there. How did he rise to power? How did he organize Woodbury? Almost like a Breaking Bad concept of an anti-hero that you root for even though you know he's really a villain. I think that would be fascinating.

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Sorry, but I think that is utterly ridiculous. Remember when Jennings tested their blood at the CDC?

the wife and i were a bit disappointed by this episode too. but that might be my fault in that i was expecting the fireworks of a season premier, but in reality the show just took a break.

i think what i'm struggling with is the lack of depth to the characters. rick is losing it, fine, but he is who he is. there's no layers to him. same with hershel being the gentle one never getting angry. and kind of moving in that direction is the governor...just a pissy guy who started off as a complex character, but now has been diluted down to a guy with an eyepatch who's just plain evil.

dont get me started on andrea.

and then to have daryl gone from the group...well it's obvious that daryl was the best written character. a guy who's transformed and is still a badass who gives not a ****, but does give a **** from time to time.

right now the best characters on the show are carl (because he's so adept at playing the robot heartless kid), asian guy and his girlfriend, but to an extent they are peripheral characters to rick and the governor.

i kind of had to laugh at rick seeing the ghost of laurie. i mean i get it, but i feel like there was a more subtle way to show his crazy coming out.

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Speaking of Woodbury, I'm actually more interested in that community & the governor more than Rick's group. I'd love to see a spinoff of this show that starts at the time of the outbreak, but is shown through the eyes of the governor. It would focus on his journey from normal person prior to the zombie outbreak to where he is now. We'd learn why is the way that he is and how he got there. How did he rise to power? How did he organize Woodbury?

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I know we are pretending like the comics/books don't exist in this thread, but I think there are two books out right now that go through this, if you are really interested in that back story.

The 1st is called Rise of the Governor, and the 2nd is called The Road to Woodbury.

Not the same as watching it on the show (I haven't read them yet) but could be decent filler if you want to know more about that backstory.

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Sorry, but I think that is utterly ridiculous. Remember when Jennings tested their blood at the CDC?

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But Jenner already knew everyone was a carrier. So what was he testing for really? Or was he just gathering more samples in hopes of finding something to lead to a cure?

Does anyone else see some sort of relationship evolving with Rick and Hershel's youngest daughter, Emily, in the future? Seemed like a couple scenes where they made a point to have her all bright eyed when Rick showed back up. And with her helping out so much taking care of the baby I wonered if she'd just automatically try snd fill in for lori. Just curious if I was just imagining that.

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you're not imagining it because my wife mentioned the same thing as a possibility.

Might be good for Rick to get a little young strange.

Of course, then you introduce the Rick/Blonde/Carl love triangle...

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Of course, then you introduce the Rick/Blonde/Carl love triangle...

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Ha! yeah, I thought about that too. Carl hittin puberty and her being the only viable option. That'd be frustrating.

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But Jenner already knew everyone was a carrier. So what was he testing for really? Or was he just gathering more samples in hopes of finding something to lead to a cure?

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I think he was merely checking to confirm that everyone was a carrier.

And I disagree about it being ridiculous that Jenner wouldn't detect other abnormalities in Rick's blood or DNA. Everyone has thousands of unique characteristics in their genetic makeup. He was looking for one specific characteristic that signifies that they're carriers. Whichever characteristic Rick possesses that made him the return fully-functioning would be unrecognizable to Jenner. Not only would he not be looking for it, he'd not realize what it was even if he saw it.

And my theory is no more ridiculous than rotting human corpses returning to feast on living people or Rick getting shot & surviving in a coma for days after his IV & antibiotics run out.

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I think the scene of Glenn killing the zombie that Merle sent after his was intended to also show us that he's a badass now. I think Glenn is the only reasonable choice to challenge Rick now that Daryl is following his own story line (presumably).

I didn't think it was as horrible as people here claim, but certainly not the best episode.


I used to hate Carl but now that kid just looks intense half time, oddly juxtaposed by wearing his dad's oversized hat.


I do agree, they need to find way to show some more depth in these characters like Rick and the governor.

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My guess is that Daryl is back in the mix in less than two episodes, if not the very next episode.

Agreed. He seemed very reticent in going along with Merle (correct spelling for whomever was moaning earlier). Like he knew it was the right thing to do to support his brother, but knew it was most likely a mistake.

I would guess the Governor's men catch up to the two brothers in their attempts to find the prison and Merle gets killed/wounded and then Daryl takes him to the prison for burial/treatment.

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Does anyone else see some sort of relationship evolving with Rick and Hershel's youngest daughter, Emily, in the future? Seemed like a couple scenes where they made a point to have her all bright eyed when Rick showed back up. And with her helping out so much taking care of the baby I wonered if she'd just automatically try snd fill in for lori. Just curious if I was just imagining that.

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I noticed this too, but thought maybe it was just because I'm horny for Blondie.

Rick better watch out, though. If Carl wants that sweet action, Rick could end up with a slug in his head. Kid's fo reel.

Agree that the writers need to get the characters to show more depth. The best parts of the show are when the main characters are killed off (Shane, Lori, Dale). If the audience cares/relates with the character when this happens, it makes the scene more compelling.

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Might be good for Rick to get a little young strange.

Of course, then you introduce the Rick/Blonde/Carl love triangle...

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As soon as that kiss on the cheek occurred, I had visions of Carl killing Rick so he could have blondie to himself. That would be awwwwwwesome

And her name is Emily? Huh? Did not know that? Shows how insignificant she is.

In a real post-apocalyptic survival situation, Blondie would be a DNA receptacle.

Maybe on the HBO version.

That girl is 4 years older than Carl. I doubt anything will happen between Rick and her

Rick is not a zombie because of hair growth or else every guy zombie would be flashing a beard or long hair


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Agreed. He seemed very reticent in going along with Merle (correct spelling for whomever was moaning earlier). Like he knew it was the right thing to do to support his brother, but knew it was most likely a mistake.

I would guess the Governor's men catch up to the two brothers in their attempts to find the prison and Merle gets killed/wounded and then Daryl takes him to the prison for burial/treatment.

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Eh, I think the writers are going to keep Merle around. He brings a lot of drama and anger and Shane-ness back to the show.

The only reason Daryl and Merle left was because of Glenn and Maggie... So, if I had to guess, I'd say Merle saves one or both of their lives (maybe when Woodbury attacks the prison) and is allowed back into the group.

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That girl is 2 years older than Carl.

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Never knew the portrayed age difference between thr two, but she is 27 IRL. Looked it up so I didn't feel dirty.

So Carl is 15? Cause they mentioned recently blondie is 17.

No way in hell Carl is 15

13 at the most

sorry ur right i meant 4 years. Beth is 4 years older.

Where did this Emily thing come from anyways?

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That girl is 4 years older than Carl. I doubt anything will happen between Rick and her

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How quickly we forget young Anakin and Padme!

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How quickly we forget young Anakin and Padme!

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Dude you cant compare the two. Padme was born in 46 BBY and Anakin was born in 41 BBY so they are only 5 BBY years apart (368 days = 1 year) /Nerded out