what Im trying to figure out is what was Gus' role in all of this before he had gale and the superlab? Was he just running a chicken restaurant for the last 20 years or so, watching tuco sell the product that he introduced to the cartel, all while grooming a brilliant chemist to manufacture his own meth and cut out the cartel?

i dont think cooking is at the forefront of walts mind right now. With next season being the last, the possibilities are endless.

I think the chicken restaurant is the key for distribution. Getting the product from the lab to the different dealers in other towns. Plus laundering the cash.

I bet Gus always had someone cooking but when Walter's pure product hit the streets he needed to up his game and brought in Gale in an attempt to compete. When Gale couldn't match the purity he had to bring in Walter to cook full time.

http://www.digitalspy.com/tv/s166/breaking-bad/news/a342396/breaking-bad-aaron-paul-jesse-could-die.html

Jesse could die at any moment apparently.....but I imagine so could anybody else.

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youre right. I forgot but in the 2nd season saul even described gus as someone who had been doing this for 20 years and never been caught.

I think Gus was always the supply man for the Cartel in the midwest. He supplied Tuco with the product he sold before Heisenberg entered the scene.

Walt's a hard guy to read because of his stubborn pride overriding his common sense so awesome. The sensible thing to do would be for him to just stop cooking. He isn't sick anymore (though I can't help but think the cancer will come out of remission before the series comes to its end) so he doesn't need to pay any medical bills or build a cushion for his family to subsist off. Especially considering his and Skyler's lies are all falling apart around them and they're about to be exposed before their peers.

Where it goes from here I have no idea, but I think things are definitely about to go crazy. I could almost see Walt's family going into witness protection but, due to Walt's pride and refusal to feel helpless, he stays behind and tries to take gus out on his own rogue-style while Gus and the DEA go at it.

Thing is, I can't see how there's any possible way Gus could come close to taking on the DEA... They could shut down his distribution and facilities without problem.

So maybe we see the DEA wipe out Gus over the next two episodes, and then next season it's Pinkman, Walt and Mike somehow at each other's throats with Sal and DEA playing support roles...

Heck, beats me. This show's great!

IMO Walt only has a couple of plays here:

- run away solo
- come up with the money required to relocate with new identities
- kill Hank, retire from meth
- kill Jesse
- kill Gus (somewhat feasible due to Mike's absence)

since Saul already made the call to the DEA and we know there's a 4th season coming, only the last two really make sense.

personally, i think Walt's going to kill Jesse. and Hank is finally going to make the connection between Walt and Heisenberg.

that said, i'm sure the writers have a super awesome deus ex machina in store for us all.

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Crazy talk. Walt would never kill Jesse. I think they team up against Gus when Jesse starts to realize Gus is a murdering psychopath who was just playing/using him.

Am I the only one that thought the final shot was meant to look like Walt was in a coffin?

Yeah there was definitely some symbolism goin on there.
And I wouldn't put it past Walt to think that he has to kill Jesse now so that Gus will need him to cook. He seems crazy enough to do anything to survive

Mother of god....

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Am I the only one that thought the final shot was meant to look like Walt was in a coffin?

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Hello, that's what I was talking about with the foreshadowing. They just told us that at the end of the series Walt will be dead.

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Hello, that's what I was talking about with the foreshadowing. They just told us that at the end of the series Walt will be dead.

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never would have seen that coming.

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It's not about that, everyone knows that it was possible that Walt would die.

But now the writers have told us he will die. Doesn't mean he will get killed necessarily, the cancer could come back and die from that.

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It's not about that, everyone knows that it was possible that Walt would die.

But now the writers have told us he will die. Doesn't mean he will get killed necessarily, the cancer could come back and die from that.

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They haven't told us anything. That shot could very well symbolize that Walt is currently on a course to die. What if he does something to alter that course? I don't believe this was the start of the Walter White Remption Story, but it could be.

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I mean if it's between him and his family, obviously he'll do it, but right now I just don't see him doing it. Do you guys think he has it in him to kill his partner/former student/friend? I don't know if he's that far gone that he would kill Jesse yet. That's just my two cents though.

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I was a little surprised $600k wiped out Walt's nest egg.

And yes, Ted is certainly dead. Couldn't happen to a nicer guy.

The writing, directing, and acting on this show is absolutely brilliant. I haven't got around to watching the Wire yet (a show that this one is often compared to as the best drama to come on tv), but I find it hard to believe that it can get any better than the string of episodes we've seen on this show the second half of this season.

If this show would have been a little better with the filler story lines like Skylar and her boss and anything related to Walt Jr., it would have been a complete masterpiece.

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there's also the medical bills, the car wash, etc.

This is just crazy. After every episode lately, I keep saying, OK that was the best episode, then after the next I say, OK that one was the best episode.....and there are still two more left. They just keep topping themselves. I've always been a fan of this show, but it was around my 5th favorite show. This season has put it squarely in first place. Just amazing TV.

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I mean if it's between him and his family, obviously he'll do it, but right now I just don't see him doing it. Do you guys think he has it in him to kill his partner/former student/friend? I don't know if he's that far gone that he would kill Jesse yet. That's just my two cents though.

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Walter (via Jesse) killed Gale whom he had a pretty deep respect for. If Walt is put in the same position to have to kill Jesse in order to save himself or his family, I believe he absolutely would at least try.

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I haven't got around to watching the Wire yet (a show that this one is often compared to as the best drama to come on tv), but I find it hard to believe that it can get any better than the string of episodes we've seen on this show the second half of this season.

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Wire shoots for a higher degree of difficulty. BB is certainly making its way into the conversation, but the wire just did so much more and did it so well that I just don't see any shows beating it.

What I am ready to say is that BB is the best ever blend of character and plot. I've always said that a show is either plot driven (24, The Shield) or character driven (The Wire, The Sopranos), and generally suffers a bit at one to excel at the other. I could not, at this point, tell you which side BB falls on, and that's a huge credit to it. Even as extreme as it's gotten, it's still kept the character feeling real, and that's big.

Yes, pretty much anything any character does makes 100% logical sense. They don't cheat or take shortcuts when moving the plot along.

definitely agree on those points.

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They haven't told us anything. That shot could very well symbolize that Walt is currently on a course to die. What if he does something to alter that course? I don't believe this was the start of the Walter White Remption Story, but it could be.

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I actually took it to mean that Walt's good side if finally dead. After the redemption moment with Walt Jr. and then trying to make a decision to save his family and his brother-in-law, he end up being completely screwed by his wife giving money to her ex lover. No matter how hard he tries to fix things, he is only ever in control when he is Heisenberg.

Good chemist? His friends screw him out of a share of the company.

Good teacher and family man? He gets terminal cancer.

Good provider for his family? He ends up in over his head with a drug cartel.

Anyway, the more he tries to become good, the more obvious it is that he needs to "break bad". Finally, when he tries to save his brother-in-law and run away with his family, he finds out he has no more money despite everything he's done.

Just a wild ass theory, but I think he's about to go on a rampage.

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^Totally buy into something like that. The shot obviously meant something. We don't know what yet. But to say it definitively means that Walter White ends up dead is pretty ridiculous. There was a better than not expectation of that happening even before the shot, I see no reason why they'd reveal that now.

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He's got terminal cancer so we already knew he was a dead man walking.

I like the idea that Walt on a rampage is how the season is going to end.

Walt it dead.

hth

what if he was in purgatory?

Wow, all I can really say after watching that. I finally was able to catch up with the last episode on the DVR last night. This show is simply insanely good (a bit of a pun on the last 10 minutes of this past episode).

I think Walt's nutty laughing at the end was him realizing that he was out of his run-away options, and last ditch efforts to get him and his immediate family out of there. He now has to fight his way back against some incredibly bad odds. But, he's very smart, and extremely desperate with nothing to lose. So, I expect to be highly entertained in these last two episodes one way or another, to say the least.

@SuperDave03

Yeah I thought that was a really good analogy/symbolism with the Bridge On The River Kwai reference.