One thing is for sure, our offense will be a lot better next year. Remember what our 6-9 looked like some games last year?
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J_R said:Quote:
Ken Rosenthal
Sources: Nationals remain in talks with White Sox on Sale and Pirates on McCutchen. Red Sox open on Sale, but only at lesser asking price.
Sources add: Astros, Rangers out on Sale at current asks. Dodgers more focused on free agents than trades. Braves still in mix.
With White Sox's Sale - as with any off-season negotiation, trade or free agent - talks are fluid and positions can shift at any time.
That's a shame. We still need to make a SP move if we are serious, IMO.
That's like saying ground chuck is the next best thing to aged prime tenderloin.Nuke LaLoosh said:
Why would y'all possibly hate this? Not as good as Edwin, but the next best thing. I like it and I'm as big of a pot banger as they come
Why are y'all assuming Edwin is out now?
Cause I think at some point, you are signing players to play the bench and get paid $15 millionmaca1028 said:
Why are y'all assuming Edwin is out now?
I think the offense is done
That sucks considering we all thought it was a done deal earlier this week.
If anything adding Beltran and not Edwin means we would be more likely to keep Bregs (and the rest of the core) and not trade him.
If we got Edwin on multiple years that would be an extra great bar and would leave Bregs more susceptible for a trade.
Beltran is a filler for a year while the young "mixed feeling guys" (White, Reed, Stassi, etc) develop. We won't have to throw them to the wolves like last year.
If we got Edwin on multiple years that would be an extra great bar and would leave Bregs more susceptible for a trade.
Beltran is a filler for a year while the young "mixed feeling guys" (White, Reed, Stassi, etc) develop. We won't have to throw them to the wolves like last year.
Have to guess the price on EE jumped with Boston and NY in the mix and that would have compromised being able to pay the younger talent in the next few years.
I can live with a 1-year deal for Beltran.
very glad the 'stros are keeping Bregman
very glad the 'stros are keeping Bregman
will be interesting to see the lefty-righty mix in the batting order.
Springer may move down to #6 or #7.
could see Altuve & Bregman hitting leadoff and 2-hole of vice versa. Then Beltran 3rd. Correa 4th. And a lefty 5th
Springer may move down to #6 or #7.
could see Altuve & Bregman hitting leadoff and 2-hole of vice versa. Then Beltran 3rd. Correa 4th. And a lefty 5th
[ol]
George Springer, CF Alex Bregman, 3B Jose Altuve, 2B Carlos Correa, SS Carlos Beltran, LF Evan Gattis, DH Brian McCann, C Yulieski Gurriel, 1B Josh Reddick, RF [/ol]
Sexy
Sexy
Folks, we got better today. Good enough for me.
Ill go with the ABCsaggie1906 said:
[ol]George Springer, CF Alex Bregman, 3B Jose Altuve, 2B Carlos Correa, SS Carlos Beltran, LF Evan Gattis, DH Brian McCann, C Yulieski Gurriel, 1B Josh Reddick, RF [/ol]
Sexy
Altuve
Bregman
Correa
Springer
FYI for 2016
Springer in Leadoff - OPS .816
Springer in 2 Hole - OPS .816
I don't care if its Springer or not, but I don't want Altuve leading off. A player with a .531 SLUG needs runners on base.astros4545 said:Ill go with the ABCsaggie1906 said:
[ol]George Springer, CF Alex Bregman, 3B Jose Altuve, 2B Carlos Correa, SS Carlos Beltran, LF Evan Gattis, DH Brian McCann, C Yulieski Gurriel, 1B Josh Reddick, RF [/ol]
Sexy
Altuve
Bregman
Correa
Springer
FYI for 2016
Springer in Leadoff - OPS .816
Springer in 2 Hole - OPS .816
Good point.aggie1906 said:I don't care if its Springer or not, but I don't want Altuve leading off. A player with a .531 SLUG needs runners on base.astros4545 said:Ill go with the ABCsaggie1906 said:
[ol]George Springer, CF Alex Bregman, 3B Jose Altuve, 2B Carlos Correa, SS Carlos Beltran, LF Evan Gattis, DH Brian McCann, C Yulieski Gurriel, 1B Josh Reddick, RF [/ol]
Sexy
Altuve
Bregman
Correa
Springer
FYI for 2016
Springer in Leadoff - OPS .816
Springer in 2 Hole - OPS .816
I will compromise with you
Bregman
Altuve
Correa
Springer
Is Beltran too old to play the outfield every day? How much did he play in the field last year
150 startsMr.Bond said:
Is Beltran too old to play the outfield every day? How much did he play in the field last year
75 DH
75 OF
More than I was expecting. I don't expect to see him, McCann, & Gattis in the line up the same day regularly.astros4545 said:150 startsMr.Bond said:
Is Beltran too old to play the outfield every day? How much did he play in the field last year
75 DH
75 OF
For 16 million, Beltran better be playing at least 80 percent of the games
Since we had so many lineups last year its a little hard to compare. But if we ignore the potential full season upgrades of Bregman & Gurriel and only look at last year's production in 1B, LF & DH vs Beltan & Reddick, here is how it compares.
2016 Astros 1B: .230 .287 .374 .661
2016 Astros LF: .203 .279 .354 .633
2016 Astros DH: .231 .297 .466 .763
2016 McCann: .242 .335 .413 .748
2016 Reddick: .281 .345 .405 .749
2016 Beltran: .295 .337 .513 .850
2016 Astros 1B: .230 .287 .374 .661
2016 Astros LF: .203 .279 .354 .633
2016 Astros DH: .231 .297 .466 .763
2016 McCann: .242 .335 .413 .748
2016 Reddick: .281 .345 .405 .749
2016 Beltran: .295 .337 .513 .850
I won't be too surprised to see Reddick near the top of the order against righties. OPS of .955 against righties last year. And not a bad idea to put a lefty between Bregman, Springer, Altuve and Correa.
First pic is a comparison of what's changed with the roster using 2016 splits.
Potential lineup and bench vs LHP and RHP
Yuli and Bregatron's splits have to be taken with a grain of salt. I expect both of them to hit LHP much better this year.
Potential lineup and bench vs LHP and RHP
Yuli and Bregatron's splits have to be taken with a grain of salt. I expect both of them to hit LHP much better this year.
No one is too old to play LF at Minute Maid
All this talk has me ready for April
Bats everywhere but man we gotta get some SP help
Sq16Aggie2006 said:
Bats everywhere but man we gotta get some SP help
Nah. Outscore everyone for 5 innings then hand it to Devo, Harris, Gregerson, and Giles.
Lets slow the hype train. We have a line up full of solid bats, but outside of Altuve non are great at this point. Beltran is the closest thing and I don't think he matches 2016. We need Bregman to be like the non slumping one. We need Correa to take that next step. We need Gurriel to be more Cuban league. And Gattis to be catcher Gattis not DH Gattis.
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