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I like using my angry chicken while in the rogue quest
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TKEAg04 said:

I seriously hate and despise rogues now. The rogue quest is so incredibly broken.

Oh it's super broken, but we should take a moment to appreciate that stonetusk boar is back in the meta.

Stonetusk. ****ing. Boar.
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40 health vs mage's 1 after his 2nd ice block? Too bad, you're dead when he copies 2 apprentice, time warps, plays Antonidas and 7 free fireballs.
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So is Lyra the Lightshard worth crafting? I have the priest quest as well as the ability to run a silence deck, but I am missing that card.
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So is Lyra the Lightshard worth crafting? I have the priest quest as well as the ability to run a silence deck, but I am missing that card.
General feeling is priest is one of the weaker (if not weakest) classes at the moment. I wouldn't.
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I know I should jump on the rogue bandwagon, but I just don't want to :/
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benMath08 said:

Line Ate Member said:

So is Lyra the Lightshard worth crafting? I have the priest quest as well as the ability to run a silence deck, but I am missing that card.
General feeling is priest is one of the weaker (if not weakest) classes at the moment. I wouldn't.
Based on current metashot -> https://tempostorm.com/hearthstone/meta-snapshot/standard/2017-04-14

Priest has 2x tier 2 decks and 3x tier 3, so I would not call it the weakest. A lot of folks playing the "new" dragon priest deck with lots of success. (both on ladder and pro circuit)

If you are playing Lyra, you are playing the "miracle" priest deck which is ok, nothing fancy, but nothing great either. Saw AMAZ and Thijis play them with reasonable success.

I'd make sure I had warrior quest, rogue quest, rogue legendary first. After that I think paly legendary is pretty solid. Mage quest(Exodia mage) is solid too. Either way, it's probably a middle of the road card unless you have to play miracle priest.
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srob2004 said:

benMath08 said:

Line Ate Member said:

So is Lyra the Lightshard worth crafting? I have the priest quest as well as the ability to run a silence deck, but I am missing that card.
General feeling is priest is one of the weaker (if not weakest) classes at the moment. I wouldn't.
Based on current metashot -> https://tempostorm.com/hearthstone/meta-snapshot/standard/2017-04-14

Priest has 2x tier 2 decks and 3x tier 3, so I would not call it the weakest. A lot of folks playing the "new" dragon priest deck with lots of success. (both on ladder and pro circuit)

If you are playing Lyra, you are playing the "miracle" priest deck which is ok, nothing fancy, but nothing great either. Saw AMAZ and Thijis play them with reasonable success.

I'd make sure I had warrior quest, rogue quest, rogue legendary first. After that I think paly legendary is pretty solid. Mage quest(Exodia mage) is solid too. Either way, it's probably a middle of the road card unless you have to play miracle priest.
Based on actual data priest and warlock are the only classes that don't have an archetype with over 50% winrate.

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1osCVci8-7ttXp_CjWORzEUYf5VQlGWN_ZsOUrbCX0AI/htmlview?sle=true#

That said, if you think you pilot the decks as well as pro players go for it.
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Here is an example of Lyra at work:



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benMath08 said:

srob2004 said:

benMath08 said:

Line Ate Member said:

So is Lyra the Lightshard worth crafting? I have the priest quest as well as the ability to run a silence deck, but I am missing that card.
General feeling is priest is one of the weaker (if not weakest) classes at the moment. I wouldn't.
Based on current metashot -> https://tempostorm.com/hearthstone/meta-snapshot/standard/2017-04-14

Priest has 2x tier 2 decks and 3x tier 3, so I would not call it the weakest. A lot of folks playing the "new" dragon priest deck with lots of success. (both on ladder and pro circuit)

If you are playing Lyra, you are playing the "miracle" priest deck which is ok, nothing fancy, but nothing great either. Saw AMAZ and Thijis play them with reasonable success.

I'd make sure I had warrior quest, rogue quest, rogue legendary first. After that I think paly legendary is pretty solid. Mage quest(Exodia mage) is solid too. Either way, it's probably a middle of the road card unless you have to play miracle priest.
Based on actual data priest and warlock are the only classes that don't have an archetype with over 50% winrate.

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1osCVci8-7ttXp_CjWORzEUYf5VQlGWN_ZsOUrbCX0AI/htmlview?sle=true#

That said, if you think you pilot the decks as well as pro players go for it.



Is that all data or just those that use track bot? I use deck tracker, so does that go in as well? I think this is some really cool data, was unaware of it.

I never said I could mirror or even begin to do what a pro does. I'm was giving the primary example for when/how people are using it. I don't think Priest is the weakest class but it's not strong either, although I think it's stronger than it was in the previous meta-year, we'll see how it pans out.


I think tempostorm has the tier 1 decks pretty well shown out and they are pulling data from something to put it together.

Didn't mean to strike a cord with you. I like playing priest, actually I like it when I can play a deck or two from every class, makes the game more exciting and more interesting.... but whatever.
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No worries, I probably came across more strongly than I intended to. The tempostorm meta snapshot is useful, I just like the "real world" data better.

vicioussyndicate.com (datareaper) uses track-o-bot: https://trackobot.com/

http://www.vicioussyndicate.com/drr/faq-data-reaper-report/

There's also www.metastats.net, which gathers data via track-o-bot and a plugin for the hearthstone deck tracker (https://hsdecktracker.net/), which is itself uploading replays to hsreplay.net and I think working on better reporting tools.

The datareaper report is from the last 24 hours while metastats is over a longer period. I like having the more "up to date" numbers in datareaper.

edit: a bunch of links
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I really hate arena right now. So bad.
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Latest data from Vicious Syndicate:
http://www.vicioussyndicate.com/vs-data-reaper-report-44/



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For Stormtrooper.

http://www.hearthstonetopdecks.com/decks/senfglas-ungoro-control-shaman-april-2017-season-37/
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I played against one of those as freeze mage. He was a sad shaman when he realized all his deathrattle spells were useless
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I've been playing a lot of Aggro Muroc Paly, Elemental Shaman, and some Dragon Priest. Pretty solid results. Little taunt warrior as well... never pirate.

Also, if y'all have not tried TES: Legends yet and like card games... I highly recommend it. I'm playing it alongside HS and I really like it.

https://texags.com/forums/30/topics/2842861
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Paladin has made a petty successful resurgence so far, maybe more so than hunter.
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Midrange hunters slaughter rogue quest though. It is nice to have that deck made when you see about tons of those decks.
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Are any of you DoubleD36 in game? I'm guessing no, but want to be sure before I decline the friend invite. It's not a recent opponent b/c the request was sent when I wasn't online.
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That's me. DoubleD36#11831. I sent the request then something came up before I could send you a message...my bad. I just started playing not too long ago and got a quest to watch a win so I randomly picked a name from the first page.
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Haha, ok. I accepted!
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btw, I'm happy hunter is fun to play again. currently 12-4 with this deck in ranked matches.

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Redline,

You need to find a way to incorporate in dirty rat. That card is probably the best 3 drop for hunter, especially if you can pair him up with houndmaster on turn 4. I also worked in 2 hyenas, and those have won me a couple of games if I can get it out early and unleash hounds to buff it. I had one of them up to 16/10ish and then used crackling razormaw to give it windfury. I havent been running terrorscale - is it any good? I also worked in Leeroy Jenkins as a finisher and he's won me a couple of games during my run.

I went from 18 to 9 in 2 days, only losing 3 total games (all at rank 14). Two to quest warrior, and 1 to quest rogue (which im now 10-1 against).

At rank 9 I have kinda stalled because I keep running into the new control paladin that completely shuts this deck down. I miss facing a ton of quest rogues, but that seems to be falling out of favor recently.
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I like the terror scale, it's good if you can hit kindly grandmother on turn 3. Really good if you can hit highmane. Not good if you top deck it.
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Quest Rogue has been neutralized to some extent, but I still enjoyed this clip a great deal

https://clips.twitch.tv/CoyKathishEndiveWow
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gig them said:

Quest Rogue has been neutralized to some extent, but I still enjoyed this clip a great deal

https://clips.twitch.tv/CoyKathishEndiveWow


I saw this yesterday, so funny.
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reynad can be pure gold for entertainment sometimes.
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Make sure y'all login today:

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3rd and 2
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I usually hit 4 or 3. Two months ago I hit legend for the first time. I'm not too motivated to try that again! Too much work.
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I used to get to 5 a long time ago bit I haven't played that many games a month in a long time. So I top out around 7.
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I don't play all that much. Generally in the 10 to 15 range. Probably closer to 15.
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Predmid said:

I don't play all that much. Generally in the 10 to 15 range. Probably closer to 15.
Same. I only play 1-2 games a night now, if that.

Just had a 2 rare, Epic, Common and Legendary in one pack from the 3 free packs giveaway. It was the legendary mage quest.
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Crystal Blue Meth said:

Sorry if already discussed, but what rank does everyone usually get to at the end of each season?

Last few months I've been able to break rank 5. Got to rank 3 this month, but I just don't have the time to grind (which is what it comes down to, unfortunately)...
Hit legend last season. Only rank 2 this past season.
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So what is a good counter to midrange hunter. They are alllllllll over the place now in the lower levels.
 
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