Arrakis ecologist said:

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He survived the first one because Palpatine/Empire wanted to USE him.

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I don't think we know that.

AgfromHOU said:

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redline248 said:

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Does anyone care about Rey?

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Grogu will pick the sweet Mandolorian shirt and forego his training.
He won't be around for the Kylo rage incident.
Mando and Grogu will have further adventures until Mando is no more in the not so distant future.
Grogu will find a new Jedi master to train under, Rey.
She will fulfill her destiny and turn into a Sith.
Mando\Jedi grogu will fight her with the Dark Saber and Yoda's old saber.

cbr said:

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Interesting questions. The sequels were such unmitigated garbage you cant tie anything good into their storylines. Or shouldnt. So where to go with the original characters?

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Waxing philosophical, what good did the 'no attachment' crap do in the end? Its a human falsehood imo. 'Stick with your friends and family and be good people' seems like a better religion.

Sort of betting the little guy goes with mando, cause honestly skywalker still seems petty confused.

Hungry Ojos said:

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helloimustbegoing said:

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Arrakis ecologist said:

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He survived the first one because Palpatine/Empire wanted to USE him.

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I don't think we know that.

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Wasn't that the whole point of Mandalorian 1? Didn't he save Grogu from this very thing?

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Grogu was wanted and used by Moff Gideon. There is no reason to assume Palpatine allowed him to escape the Jedi Temple because he was the one who wanted to use Grogu. Far more likely that Palpatine had no idea he existed and that Moff Gideon found out about him because he was being held in Gideon's territory. Moff Gideon was clearly a guy with a lot of secrets, a heavy investment in R&D, and a crazy thirst for power.

He was secretly saved by Mace Windu who used force push to survive his fall.

Mace took Grogu into hiding, used the Jedi Mind Wipe to lock away those memories.

Mace died a few years back or old age, and it is at that time that Grogu was captured and put into the hands of the cloners.

So next episode guest star WILL be Samuel L Jackson in a flashback.

I don't have much to add to the current conversation but just wanted to say this show is making some odd choices.

It's almost like they thought "hey look we know this show seems low stakes, so we're gonna stick two episodes of a much better show in here and just call it part of this show."

What if he picks them both up and then arrives on Tatooine to fight in the war vs. the Pyke flying Luke's X-wing with Luke's head in a burlap sack?

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chase128 said:

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After seeing this episode, what happens with Luke's Jedi academy in the sequels makes me even more pissed off.

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Just have Jon Favreau redo 7, 8, 9.

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And the deep fake technology is almost to the point where you don't need the original actors. We could have a sequel trilogy with the OT gang.

Let Filoni find a way to meander around 7-9. He is capable.

Or….now just stick with me here….

CEO of Disney comes out in a video and says, "THEY NEVER HAPPENED! ALRIGHT!? WERE GONNA DO IT AGAIN! **** IT!"

it'd be much easier anyways

Orome said:

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Theoretical question. If they just scrapped episodes 7-9 and rewrote them, they'd have to give it over to the Favreau, Filoni, Kasdan and BDH(?), right? Who would y'all want to see, and in what roles?

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Honestly, if they continue with the quality of what they are producing for television, I don't care if they never make another theatrical film.

Hell, I'd pay money to watch this in a theater.

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TCTTS said:

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Imagine the potential of the current overall storyline if the sequel trilogy didn't exist.

Instead, as is, all I could think last night when I saw the temple being built was that Leia and Han's assh*le kid is eventually going to burn it down, kill all of his fellow students, and then Luke is going to turn into a bitter old recluse.

But what if we knew none of that was coming? Imagine the possibilities and the hope we'd have right now.

Granted, I still think they can pull off something incredible and Avengers-esque, with the reclaiming of Mandalore, Ashoka's story, etc, with it all crisscrossing/leading to some massive, MCU-style climax, one that will ultimately *feel* like a "replacement" sequel story of sorts. It just kind of sucks knowing there's a "cap" of sorts and that eventually all of this leads to Luke losing all hope, the dumb First Order, and f/cking Palpatine returning.

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But that's only true for the Luke/Anakin story. Star Wars had thousands of years of stories if you're willing to move past the one that started 45 years ago. There are stories set thousands of years ago that started with one of the greatest, most replayable video games of all time. There are ones set 200 years in the future with Cade Skywalker fighting against the darkness as the last of his line. There are literally hundreds of books, "cannon" or not, that tell incredible stories - some even slightly better than "The Approaching Storm", and hundreds of comic book series.

You're a busy dude, but if you haven't watched Clone Wars and Rebel and Bad Batch, you're just limiting yourself from some amazing Star Wars stories that make what's going on right now that much more awesome.

Not to mention, in the right now of Mando/Fett, it's 9 years ABY which means it's 25 years before the first scene of The Force Awakens. TWENTY FIVE YEARS of ADVENTURES that are a totally blank slate right now. Twenty-five years of adventures for younger Luke, Han and Leia if they want to go there. Ahsoka and Thrawn and the Fett, and Grogu and Bo Katan and Ezra and Sabine. Luke Skywalker might save the galaxy 15 times between the end of ROTJ and the beginning of TFA and we'll get to see it play out across a ton of different formats.

This isn't a rant on you TC, I just happened to reply to your post. But regardless of what happens in the sequel trilogy and whether you like them or not, Star Wars is a massive blank slate that doesn't need to have anything shoe-horned in to any story, other than keeping a few characters alive for the next 2-1/2 decades. You know, in 25 years I'll be 73 and probably need to piss 3 times a night, but that doesn't mean I'm not excited about the next 2-1/2 decades of stories in my life. It's only BECAUSE of the sequels that all this great stuff is currently happening on the small screen.

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Yeah, I think you're missing the point I was making, or at least overreacting to it a bit. I was merely saying that seeing Luke in any of these scenes is always bittersweet, because we know he's ultimately going to fail. We know his academy - that they literally show being built - is going to be burnt to the ground by his nephew whom he essentially betrays. And we know Luke is going to be so distraught over it that he's going to spend years in alone, in seclusion, on a remote island in a remote part of the galaxy. And you just can't "unsee" any of that as you watch these scenes.

But imagine if we didn't know any of that? Instead, these scenes with Luke would be full of so much hope and possibility for what's to come. And yes, we can still go on fun adventures with him over the next couple of decades, but there will ALWAYS be that cloud hanging overhead. And that sucks.

Similarly, Favreau and Filoni have said that a big part of all these series is seeing the origin of the First Order, and how it comes to be so powerful. On one hand, I think that could be really cool, and that the context will actually *help* the appearance of the First Order in the sequel trilogy not feel so shoehorned and redundant. But on the other hand, like with Luke, there's going to be a huge cloud hanging over all of it, knowing it's all ultimately going to end with some snotty, incompetent, red-headed punk running the day-to-day, a lame Palapatine clone (?) in Snoke pulling the strings, all the while they're trying to resurrect the actual Palpatine in the background.

That said, again, I get it. That's all 25 years away. And some really awesome stuff could absolutely go down in that 25 years. All I'm saying in response is that no matter how awesome, there will always be that cloud.

YellowPot_97 said:

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DukeMu said:

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chase128 said:

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After seeing this episode, what happens with Luke's Jedi academy in the sequels makes me even more pissed off.

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Just have Jon Favreau redo 7, 8, 9.

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And the deep fake technology is almost to the point where you don't need the original actors. We could have a sequel trilogy with the OT gang.

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They could make BILLIONS more if they swallowed their pride and called those films "legends"